Rumour Bluemour Discussion thread

[thylacine60]

Always love eric's posts.

Am I the only one not falling for this messiah image EP seems to have around here?

buck buck buck

 

[Dramoth]

Yes, probably.

Fields, and White, are now redundant with the arrival of Plow-Diddy.

I know nothing about Gowers, so I won't comment.

White has a contract for the next 12 months. If Mr. Plow comes along as we expect him to and forms a fantastic partnership with Weitering, then I can see White being one of those guys traded or delisted next year. Same for Armfield really... I expect to see news of his getting a new 12 month contract early next week.

 

[ctacp]

Has Yarran ever played well on the big stage anyway?

he did punch out that essendon flog.

 

[T2B_]

Am I the only one not falling for this messiah image EP seems to have around here?

buck buck buck


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What you did there. I see it.

 

[rog1995]

Clearly paid on potential and not consistent output.

Clearly list management was a huge issue pre SOS. How much was Kreuz on again? We are effectively making room in our cap to target a ready made player when we're ready in a couple of years. SOS pretty much confirmed that in an interview.

 

[Heres Waite]

We lost 4 contracted players, all of whom should have been best 22 but only 1 of whom played like it.

We brought in 5 players, 4 of whom have missed games through injury. I'm confident Plowman, Kerridge and probably Sumner are quality at AFL level.

Sounds like GC enquired about Everitt, rather than us trying to push him out.

GWS played hardball on Tomlinson because he (like McCarthy) has two years remaining on his contract. They'll keep both til they know they can cover the loss.

Lamb and Sumner will fight for one spot, competition should improve output.

GWS took Simpson over Phillips because Phillips wanted out, and they need experienced depth. They had Mumford and kids, and struggled when Mummy went down. Phillips will have time with us to earn his place.

By all accounts, Richmond were never giving up 12. We hoped, we played the game, and walked away with 19. Considering the talk at the start of trade week was that we should accept 31 - we've done the right thing. Could it have been better? Maybe. But it was the right move given the circumstances.

Richmond can laugh at us, but they spent two weeks haggling over Yarran, while every other team in the mix for finals was working to improve their lists. They grabbed a midfielder in Townsend who might be serviceable, and Yarran who will be handy if he switches on. That's not a big improvement for a side that has lost in week one of finals 3 years running. Hawthorn, Freo, WC, Geelong, Sydney, Adelaide, GWS, Collingwood, NM, PA, WB all good chances to finish ahead of Richmond next year. Could also see a surge from Brisbane and GC which may trouble them.

We'll be bottom 3 again, will load up on a few more kids next year and hopefully bring in Tomlinson. We're rebuilding, and we've brought in a heap of young talent in year one that will lay the foundation for the next few seasons.

Exactly! As a club we need to be thinking long term, not just about the here and now! Picks 1, 8, 11, 19 and SOSOS with Kerridge, Plowman, Sumner, Phillips and Lamb is an eye to the future. We need to be looking at where this team is in 3 and 5 years time. Add Tomlinson, plus more high quality kids in the next year or two. This rebuild is well on its way!

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

he did punch out that essendon flog.

It was seriously so good seeing that bald clown sat on his arse after biting off way more than he could chew (and then having a huge sook after getting owned).

Go Yaz, I still love you!

 

[Gavstar]

Oh well....should've publicly requested a trade and nominated us.

Well next year McCarthy still wants out so Tomlinson is likely still in the same boat unless he spuds it up Yarran style. McCarthy made a much harder pitch to get to Freo.

 

[ericpascoe]

Am I the only one not falling for this messiah image EP seems to have around here?

buck buck buck


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Who's ever asked to be treated as a Messiah? Every once in a while I post what I know to be true and people can trust it, ignore it, disagree with it. I've never held my posts out to be gospel, and I don't post regularly because - well, did y'all read the Yarran thread on the draft and trading board? Cripes. Happy to piss off and never post again Thy

 

[Dramoth]

Blues will be disappointed with today but happy with the period overall. Going into the day, they were hoping to convert pick 8 to pick 6, get better than 19 for Yarran, snare Tomlinson and see a decent player such as Aish remain stranded for the purposes of the PSD. None of those eventuated. Perhaps GWS were never going to trade Tomlinson. He wanted to come to Carlton but it doesnt always come off. And sure, 6 would probably have delivered a KPF but it would have meant another significant sacrifice to get it. We had no control over the Aish thing and as for Yarran - maybe we coul have waited till 1.59pm - we will never know. SOS and Macca hung really tough but all supporters should be assured of one thing - telling the Tigers to get stuffed and keeping him would have been a very very bad idea - this is a guy with serious issues. And lets not forget, we converted 20 and 21 into 11, and many fans would have been prepared to see 20 go with Yarran to get 12 and a later pick. Well, we ended up with 11 and 19! We got 8 for Henderson - everyone would have taken that at the start of trade week; Effectively 11 for Bell plus 20 (we'd not have used 41 other than for SOSOS points); 19 for Yarran (unders, but only just and he's Trouble); and 5 players for Menzel - a talented player with a poor workrate who was out of contract in 12 months and gone gone goneski). All those players in are young and talented and we get to add 4 more top 20 players in a month plus Jack Silvagni who is still growing and still improving. Be happy gang

Be happy... I'm ****ing ecstatic... apart from being a bit down on losing out on Tomlinson, I am completely wrapped with the way that the trade week went.

I want people who play for the jumper... who live and die for the club... guys who leave nothing out there and leave the fans wondering what if.

We have gotten rid of some guys who appear to just be playing for the pay cheque at the end of the month and look to have replaced them with guys who want to have a real crack.

The future is happening now at Carlton

 

[Dramoth]

I would expect Warnock to be delisted with Army a chance of a rookie spot if we wanna keep the same 36/6 split

we are going for a 40/4 split I think... no more nominated rookies unless we have injury problems.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Who's ever asked to be treated as a Messiah? Every once in a while I post what I know to be true and people can trust it, ignore it, disagree with it. I've never held my posts out to be gospel, and I don't post regularly because - well, did y'all read the Yarran thread on the draft and trading board? Cripes. Happy to piss off and never post again Thy

It's ok EP, he's poking fun at another poster for their defeatist attitude - you're just a convenient SOS-equivalent

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

On the Yarran thing - club could never have brought him back. 19 ain't the end of the world in the circumstances.

 

[chunkylover53]

Our back line is looking set. Midfield getting there. Next season we really need to throw the kitchen sink at a KPF to build around (unless there is an out and out gun in the draft).

Excited for the future but boy it's going to a bumpy ride for the next few years.

 

[JEZZAS BLUES]

Great overall result in the trade period SOS is an absolute legend we have some great picks and traded players that contributed little last season and missed out on Jake Carlisle thank god.
I cant wait to see the GWS boys in action that could well be our best trade ever.

 

[Gavstar]

hahaha you're funny!

he is only .5 off then!!!!! hate to see what a c would have elicited from you

he kind of has a point, we did an amazing job though!!!! b+ is a great score, you have to remember as well, SOS knows those 4 kids from GWS very well, now if i was a betting man, i'd say he wouldn't draft kids twice that were duds

great period for us ,

A B+ was reasonable given that we have lost 4 players who when playing at their peak were comfortably inside top 22. We have 3 new players potentially first team ready, a couple of depth players and will get in all likelihood at least one perhaps two long term potential quality players from picks 8, 11 who are unlikely to play in the first 22 regular for a year or two.

I think you could judge the ranking five years from now, given that two more years of similar activity are required and the full potential of players will be understood by then.

 

[HBF]

he did punch out that essendon flog.

Can't deny him that.

 

[Dominator_7]

I ve read many times over the time he was at our Club, people hinting at Yazz's 'several off field issues'. We able to at least shed some light on these now that he's gone, or they that bad that they cant be brought into a public forum ?

 

[El Topo]

Closest to specifics I've heard is that he enjoys some leisure time at the Pascoe Vale TAB.

 

[blue healer]

Closest to specifics I've heard is that he enjoys some leisure time at the Pascoe Vale RSL.

Likes the old ladies eh?

 

[Kramer1]

Armfield must be kept, poked with sticks and subjected to off key singing until Rd 1 next year...we have a job for him.

 

[Bostonian]

I won't miss Yarran and his grining/smiling during moments when a player shouldn't be looking anything but disappointed or pissed off. Him and Gibbs drove me insane with that kind of open display of not giving a flying ****.

 

[LanceRomance]

Likes the old ladies eh?

now he can go to the royal after training.

 

[gbatman]

I haven't heard for sure (not willing to bet my reputation on it) but my little birds are telling me Yarran is going (major off-field issues). The talk everywhere is Richmond but murmurs are coming through is he may want to go home to WA (again, don't take my word for it, new source, still unreliable).

Club not happy with Yarran off field

Plowman is done deal..... Yarran to Tigers almost certain but off field he's not doing us any favours.

I take comfort in the fact that AFL clubs are all highly professional units so there is every chance the Tigers already know about Yarran's issues and are responsible / humane enough not to use them as chips on the trade table.

EDIT: also, I'm pretty sure that the Tigers' brains trust isn't scrolling through BF for trade strategies.

Blues will be disappointed with today but happy with the period overall. Going into the day, they were hoping to convert pick 8 to pick 6, get better than 19 for Yarran, snare Tomlinson and see a decent player such as Aish remain stranded for the purposes of the PSD. None of those eventuated. Perhaps GWS were never going to trade Tomlinson. He wanted to come to Carlton but it doesnt always come off. And sure, 6 would probably have delivered a KPF but it would have meant another significant sacrifice to get it. We had no control over the Aish thing and as for Yarran - maybe we coul have waited till 1.59pm - we will never know. SOS and Macca hung really tough but all supporters should be assured of one thing - telling the Tigers to get stuffed and keeping him would have been a very very bad idea - this is a guy with serious issues. And lets not forget, we converted 20 and 21 into 11, and many fans would have been prepared to see 20 go with Yarran to get 12 and a later pick. Well, we ended up with 11 and 19! We got 8 for Henderson - everyone would have taken that at the start of trade week; Effectively 11 for Bell plus 20 (we'd not have used 41 other than for SOSOS points); 19 for Yarran (unders, but only just and he's Trouble); and 5 players for Menzel - a talented player with a poor workrate who was out of contract in 12 months and gone gone goneski). All those players in are young and talented and we get to add 4 more top 20 players in a month plus Jack Silvagni who is still growing and still improving. Be happy gang

From what I have heard, getting rid of Yarran will be a blessing in disguise for Carlton. He has some demons (not related to his father) that might explain his erratic on-field performance (and apparently erratic behavior off-field).

Quite a few posters bringing up Yarran's off field issues. Any idea what they are or is it best to be kept private? Another poster suggested they were quite substantial and was not willing to divulge any information until a trade was done.

 

[Blue Pulse]

White is toughness, something we lack, he may be needed to help keep these kids heads up and hopefully these kids create a bond where they are there for each other and don't let themselves be pushed around.