Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[Soapy V]

I’d rather Pat Voss and either or butters/Humphrey over king.

I don’t want Butters or think we will get him. Very good player but the cost will be massive (Port will match) and restrict us in so many other areas.

By the start of 2027 he would be 27 with 4-5 years Maximum at the elite level. Gets injured a lot as well

I am hoping we keep building and developing from within. Jagga Walker Dean HOF etc is the way of the future. Young elite talent for over a decade in Navy Blue

Keep topping up with good team role players

 

[Soapy V]

I wouldn't be to concerned with the rumoured pick trades. Austin has shown he is pretty good in this area.

We seem to be one of the very few clubs that the media generally get wrong in terms of Intel on deals.

They had zero idea of the play for pick 3 and were flabbagatered with the details of the Curnow trade. Zero idea of the side trade of Florent.

Wouldn't put it past us to put these out there to garner more interest in the picks.

I like what we are doing. It’s logical.

We don’t have many spots and we can get some extra picks next year. Why waste pick 9 or 11 on a player we will get anyway?

Next year we have a heap of players out of contract, a heap of picks, will get Walker, and have massive room in SC

Need to think of this as a 2 year project/reset.

This year we have done well and will top it off by draft period 2026

 

[swuzzlebubble]

How I treat rumours on here...

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.... after copying them to the No Discussion thread

 

[KanesBurner]

Forget Butters...

Port will 100% demand our 2026 1sts... you think they're going to let him go for picks in compromised drafts when they're chasing Cochrane next year who's a potential #1 pick?

I (and I'm fairly certain Carlton) don't want to sell the farm for 1 player who will not be the difference between winning a flag or not...

Your logic is sound RE compromised drafts but Port will have Pilot (NGA), Salopek (F/S) & possibly Rodan (F/S) in the ‘27 draft who are all highly rated at this stage so we’ll be pretty aggressively chasing picks in that draft too. Opens up possibilities for all clubs really because like you said everyone else will want to trade out.

 

[gbatman]

I come in peace and feel free to dismiss this but I can tell you from a very solid source that Ben King will be at Carlton in 2027. It is why we would not trade Walter and why you let Charlie go (in part). You won’t get Humphrey or anyone else but King is going back to VIC and won’t play with Max

We have 12 months to prove we don't need Ben King, otherwise we may have to consider this.

 

[BlueTongue]

Sorry? I don’t think so

I have an addiction to nicotine and coffee, love a line or a scoob every now and then and have a slight red wine drinking problem.

But I look on the light side of life the vast majority of the time as do a shed load of others with my “addictions”

I’m sick of drug taking being put in the mental health basket, it’s unnecessary and wrong to do that

The problem with ^ that argument is that it largely depends on the constitution & mental state of the person indulging.
It IS a bigger issue if addition runs through the family bloodline.

But yeah, the 'AFL Professional' community have no problem using it as a scapegoat for nearly every case where it's publicly 'outed', whereas it was all just a bit of fun and no-issue beforehand.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I come in peace and feel free to dismiss this but I can tell you from a very solid source that Ben King will be at Carlton in 2027. It is why we would not trade Walter and why you let Charlie go (in part). You won’t get Humphrey or anyone else but King is going back to VIC and won’t play with Max

Strange GC didn’t just try for a straight swap - King into Curnow

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Your logic is sound RE compromised drafts but Port will have Pilot (NGA), Salopek (F/S) & possibly Rodan (F/S) in the ‘27 draft who are all highly rated at this stage so we’ll be pretty aggressively chasing picks in that draft too. Opens up possibilities for all clubs really because like you said everyone else will want to trade out.

Yeah I'm aware of the 27 prospects. But it will be a lot easier to get 27 1st rounders than 26. You won't need to let Butters go for them.

No doubt you'd want one from us in a hypothetical trade, but the demand would be something like our two 26 firsts + a 27 first. No way we're giving that up and no way Port accept 2x 27 firsts + 1x 28 first and that's all we'd be willing to give up.

One way it could work (though I very much doubt it'll happen) is, you accept a FA compo pick for Butters. Let's say you finish bottom 5 next year, you get pick 5 and then pick 6 (also assuming no fa compo changes next year). Those are the two picks for Cochrane. Now, part of that is a handshake agreement that we'll give you 2x 27 firsts for a player not really part of your plans who wants out anyway.

So it's essentially, Butters + a fringe player for ~pick 6 + 2x 27 firsts.

The other parts to this are, Butters will unlikely want to come to us anyway. And second, I doubt we'll be in the business of making an offer he can't refuse...

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Strange GC didn’t just try for a straight swap - King into Curnow

Would be a horrible deal for us.

We maximised Charlie’s value in the free market to get points/picks to set us up, while still knowing we could potentially target King as a F/A get him only for salary (keeping our bounty from Charlie).

If true that is.

 

[lily of laguna]

Good thing for both our teams that those blokes arent there anymore

we are rivals but i still reckon it was super unprofessional what both Dodo and Jsos would so just to spite one another instead of focusing on their respective clubs best outcome

SOS and dodo are great mates and would have known very well when we were going to pick SOS’s boys.
It wasnt spite it was to showmanship!

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Would be a horrible deal for us.

We maximised Charlie’s value in the free market to get points/picks to set us up, while still knowing we could potentially target King as a F/A get him only for salary (keeping our bounty from Charlie).

If true that is.

I get that from our pov, from GC pov though….

 

[MileHigh]

No reason we cant see it all clicking by mid season, finish 10th and take some scalps come September

 

[sweethoney]

Your logic is sound RE compromised drafts but Port will have Pilot (NGA), Salopek (F/S) & possibly Rodan (F/S) in the ‘27 draft who are all highly rated at this stage so we’ll be pretty aggressively chasing picks in that draft too. Opens up possibilities for all clubs really because like you said everyone else will want to trade out.

I think Rodan is a chance to join Essendon isn’t he?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I think Rodan is a chance to join Essendon isn’t he?

Yep.

 

[juzza316]

King would be a great get for nothing in terms of draft capital. Our cupboard is bare for KPF.

Kicked 71 goals this year and 55 the year before.

Would rather him than Pat Voss by a country mile.

 

[Opium]

King would be a great get for nothing in terms of draft capital. Our cupboard is bare for KPF.

Kicked 71 goals this year and 55 the year before.

Would rather him than Pat Voss by a country mile.

Great thing about King is he leads to the ball and takes the ball at its highest point.

 

[ctwenty1]

I wouldn't be to concerned with the rumoured pick trades. Austin has shown he is pretty good in this area.

We seem to be one of the very few clubs that the media generally get wrong in terms of Intel on deals.

They had zero idea of the play for pick 3 and were flabbagatered with the details of the Curnow trade. Zero idea of the side trade of Florent.

Wouldn't put it past us to put these out there to garner more interest in the picks.

Especially taht pick 11 trade with north

 

[RPCB]

Strange GC didn’t just try for a straight swap - King into Curnow

It’s a rumour. King hasn’t been traded.

 

[KanesBurner]

I think Rodan is a chance to join Essendon isn’t he?

Yeah would rather stay in Melbourne apparently which is fair enough. Only way it’d happen is if the AFL tightened NGA access and he didn’t qualify and didn’t want to risk going to Tassie…..but given Dougie was just added to ours I don’t think that’ll be happening haha.

 

[Benaly28]

Butters

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Butters

Butters is a locked dog??? I'm calling the RSPCA!!!!

 

[katmanblue]

Beware of new accounts making posts of this nature.

Where's the fun in that?

 

[katmanblue]

How I treat rumours on here...

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Look at Pablo Escobar over here

 

[Beyond Blue]

Great thing about King is he leads to the ball and takes the ball at its highest point.

I’ve seen Ben drop his head pretty quickly when things get a little tough against a good opponent. Also if you hated Charlie pretend efforts to chase and tackle then King won’t be a great watch.

I’d take Pat Voss over him any day of the week. He may lack natural gifts but he knows he needs to bring his best effort every week otherwise he’s out of the league. He’s also a lot cheaper.

 

[juzza316]

I’ve seen Ben drop his head pretty quickly when things get a little tough against a good opponent. Also if you hated Charlie pretend efforts to chase and tackle then King won’t be a great watch.

I’d take Pat Voss over him any day of the week. He may lack natural gifts but he knows he needs to bring his best effort every week otherwise he’s out of the league. He’s also a lot cheaper.

You might like him as a player more given his enthusiasm on the field but if we had to pick one for our list, it would be King. We need a KPF and I don't think Voss is that - Cripps is as tall as him at 195cm vs King at 202cm.

Voss is a battler, IMO 40 goals at best would be his ceiling (37 this year) whereas King is on an upward trajectory last 3 years - 40 then 55 then 71. He is similar but not as flashy as Curnow. He is a meat and potatoes Mark-Kick-Goal forward that you build around which GC have.