Brad Scott how long?

[WN123]

Ben Rutten: 38.6% win rate, finals in first year, sacked second year. Paid out $600,000

Brad Scott: 37.3% win rate, no finals in four years. Will have to paid out $1 million if the club sacks him before next year.

Scott has been instrumental in a cultural shift, a clean out of certain parties and a power shift within the club, all of which has been positive.
He has already turned over a lot of players and also has been quite clear that we are “going to the draft” again this year.

 

[tiger_tough]

We could end Brads coaching career this weekend if we somehow manage to get up.

 

[Yoda_]

Ben Rutten: 38.6% win rate, finals in first year, sacked second year. Paid out $600,000

Brad Scott: 37.3% win rate, no finals in four years. Will have to paid out $1 million if the club sacks him before next year.

Sorry Ben, if only you had a twin brother in the industry so people might be fooled into thinking you could coach.

Find an industry that lets you fail upwards like the footy industry does to Brad.

you do know Scott took on the rebuilding route without announcing it to the world 2.5 years ago, yeah?

 

[Yoda_]

It’s really quite simple.

Our core senior players are just not that good.

Parish, Setterfield, McGrath, Caldwell, 2mP, Redman, McKay, Duursma, Langford, Blackison and 100 gamer Perkins are killing us with their mediocre performances and lack of intensity.

I don’t think Scott is addressing this vital issue of concern.

F knows what he says to them all.

That vision on First Crck is pretty damning, all players highlighted were senior, core players. All who should know better.

How fast and far do you cut the list? Langford, Caldwell, Merrett, Perkins are the next cabs off my rank for moving on as cancers to this club

 

[Yoda_]

Not trying to rub it in. Prior to this season, Essendon never have lost to Fremantle at the MCG.

I have seen Essendon put out squads worse than the one they put out on the weekend, yet still beat the dockers easily in Victoria

as someone else mentioned, the one we put out on the weekend was one of the youngest or least experienced teams I have seen Essendon field. Your stat says more about Fremantle than it does Essendon mate

 

[Yoda_]

We could end Brads coaching career this weekend if we somehow manage to get up.

think Tigers are a huge chance too. Last years dream time was genuinely one of the worst displays of football I have ever seen. Kicking skills were more akin to an U11s game than AFL football.

 

[fpm84]

I honestly don't know what people expect from Scott, the Bombers are deep into a rebuild. Maybe under another coach they would have kept the Stringer and Draper types, which might have them another win or two on the board... still in no-man's land though. Would have liked them to have been more competitive in a few more games, but when you're not close to the top 10, at the end of the day it just gets them closer to a top draft pick.

I think their drafting over the past couple of years has been very good, Caddy, Kako and Robey all look blue chip.

If I had to list coaches that should be under pressure I wouldn't even have Scott in the top 3-5. Give him the Bulldogs or Crows lists and he'd be getting more consistent performances than Bevo or Nicks would IMO.

 

[tiger_tough]

think Tigers are a huge chance too. Last years dream time was genuinely one of the worst displays of football I have ever seen. Kicking skills were more akin to an U11s game than AFL football.

We should be but there is a fair chance we can't name 26 fit players this week. Would be somewhat of a miracle if we managed to get up.

 

[largebus]

you do know Scott took on the rebuilding route without announcing it to the world 2.5 years ago, yeah?

When he was appointed the club said he was there to "drive standards and establish a winning culture". Nowhere did it mention rebuilding.

There are no standards and no winning culture. Your best player yesterday was an 18 year old and your seniors were invisible. When the kids are leading the way your "standards" mean SFA.

Why wasn't Rutten afforded the same opportunity? He made finals and if anything had more of a winning culture. Because his brother wasn't a coach and its a nepo industry. Brad has only lasted so long because of Chris.

Drafting I acknowledge has been better but if a loss to Richmond costs Brad the job it wpuld be a good thing long term.

 

[Roobs321]

North & Saints after the bye looks like dangerous territory for Brad. You wouldn’t want a bad fortnight there.

 

[My_Username]

I don’t think we’re the same circumstance. Voss didn’t have a year to run on his contract and when it become clear he wasn’t getting another year he walked.

I don’t really see how there is much to gain sacking Scott during the season.

We've seen it before with coaches being shown the door that one out tends to make clubs consider their own coaches more closely.

More particularly, they don't want other club(s) to pick up the best possible replacements and leave them with the leftovers.

Maybe it'll happen, maybe it wont, but I'd be surprised if the Essendon board weren't looking at the question more closely than they would have otherwise since the Voss sacking.

 

[Freomaniac]

Probably says more about the current Freo squad compared to Essendon. Good to see Freo hungry for success now right across the board. Playing an exciting brand of football and winning in Melbourne against anyone for them is a big tick.

It might be a combination of Dockers being good and Essendon being bad.

Again, there were times the dockers were good but somehow couldnt beat essendon.

as someone else mentioned, the one we put out on the weekend was one of the youngest or least experienced teams I have seen Essendon field. Your stat says more about Fremantle than it does Essendon mate

Really? Again.... before this season, dockers never beaten the bombers at the mcg.

Hell even when freo had sustained finals success from 2012-15, we never beat essendon in victoria. But that was partially due to having you guys just once and in Perth in each year from 2010-16.

I still remember 2019 to 2021, where we had you guys each year in Docklands but somehow fell short each time.

 

[Le Archie]

I honestly don't know what people expect from Scott, the Bombers are deep into a rebuild. Maybe under another coach they would have kept the Stringer and Draper types, which might have them another win or two on the board... still in no-man's land though. Would have liked them to have been more competitive in a few more games, but when you're not close to the top 10, at the end of the day it just gets them closer to a top draft pick.

I think their drafting over the past couple of years has been very good, Caddy, Kako and Robey all look blue chip.

If I had to list coaches that should be under pressure I wouldn't even have Scott in the top 3-5. Give him the Bulldogs or Crows lists and he'd be getting more consistent performances than Bevo or Nicks would IMO.

This is an interesting take.

I have never been happier with the youth assembled at our disposal across the last two decades. Caddy, Kako, Robey and Roberts IMO all look like sensational players of the future. Plus Sharp, Farrow, Clarke, Johnson, May are all under 21 and shown plenty. It's a great base to work off especially with another top 3 pick this year and then a free hit with Bewick as a potential top 5 next year in a compromised draft.

The issue we have is they are all under 21 years of age, the only solid mid age players we have are Durham, Caldwell, Martin. Our senior players are absolutely awful performers in terms of consistency and application year on year. Our only current top 50 player looks like he is almost certainly gone at the end of the year and I think it will be for the best.

The main problem fans have with Scott is that we haven't seen any semblance of game plan improvement in 4 years combined with a distinct lack of selection integrity which has infuriated fans. Do I think he's a bad coach? no. Do I think he's the right coach for us right now? Also no.

We need a new coach and new set of eyes to come sweep a broom through our senior players - Parish, Langford, Redman, Merrett, Ridley should all be on the chopping block. They need to be replaced urgently with senior players from successful programs to teach this seriously promising group of players. I'm not talking about star players, just role players, players like a Jack Steele, Darcy Gardiner type towards the end of their careers that might want a couple of extra years of longevity to help guide us. Our senior players have been raised in a culture of mediocrity for so long so how can they even begin to fathom what a winning culture looks like to impart that on the youth?

 

[ray_purchase]

I honestly don't know what people expect from Scott, the Bombers are deep into a rebuild. Maybe under another coach they would have kept the Stringer and Draper types, which might have them another win or two on the board... still in no-man's land though. Would have liked them to have been more competitive in a few more games, but when you're not close to the top 10, at the end of the day it just gets them closer to a top draft pick.

I think their drafting over the past couple of years has been very good, Caddy, Kako and Robey all look blue chip.

If I had to list coaches that should be under pressure I wouldn't even have Scott in the top 3-5. Give him the Bulldogs or Crows lists and he'd be getting more consistent performances than Bevo or Nicks would IMO.

Still deep into a rebuild halfway through his 4th season. Look at what King has done at Melbourne.

Scott is a dud coach.

 

[Yoda_]

When he was appointed the club said he was there to "drive standards and establish a winning culture". Nowhere did it mention rebuilding.

There are no standards and no winning culture. Your best player yesterday was an 18 year old and your seniors were invisible. When the kids are leading the way your "standards" mean SFA.

Why wasn't Rutten afforded the same opportunity? He made finals and if anything had more of a winning culture. Because his brother wasn't a coach and its a nepo industry. Brad has only lasted so long because of Chris.

Drafting I acknowledge has been better but if a loss to Richmond costs Brad the job it wpuld be a good thing long term.

preaching to the choir, and probably what frustrates many Essendon supporters. Come out and own what we are doing, dont skirt around the name of what we are doing (rebuilding)

Still deep into a rebuild halfway through his 4th season. Look at what King has done at Melbourne.

This is the third year of our rebuild (4.5 years into Scott's tenure)

Scott is a dud coach.

Agreed, Scott is a dud coach

 

[Former Decathlete]

It’s really quite simple.

Our core senior players are just not that good.

Parish, Setterfield, McGrath, Caldwell, 2mP, Redman, McKay, Duursma, Langford, Blackison and 100 gamer Perkins are killing us with their mediocre performances and lack of intensity.

I don’t think Scott is addressing this vital issue of concern.

F knows what he says to them all.

Perkins and McKay are taking the piss

 

[Happy Mastenator]

you do know Scott took on the rebuilding route without announcing it to the world 2.5 years ago, yeah?

So you traded Merret for first rounders right? right?

 

[RCAB]

So you traded Merret for first rounders right? right?

You wouldn't get more than a first rounder for Merrett now. Let Welsh and his Essendon Cult wallow in their own hubris. They certainly like to rub it in during trade week.

 

[LordLucifer]

We could end Brads coaching career this weekend if we somehow manage to get up.

I'm praying you guys get up this weekend.

 

[LordLucifer]

They need to be replaced urgently with senior players from successful programs to teach this seriously promising group of players. I'm not talking about star players, just role players, players like a Jack Steele, Darcy Gardiner type towards the end of their careers that might want a couple of extra years of longevity to help guide us.

Your paragraph makes a lot of sense but listing Steele, albeit a very good player, has not come from a successful program.

The Saints are hardly the pin-up boys in that area.

 

[Shane Heard]

Lloydy got it spot on showing this teams complete lack of defensive system in every moment of contested ball situation.

We constantly have “ numbers to the ball “ with 5 players rush in circling close to an opponent who wins the ball off the ground who simply handpasses out low or over the top of the heads of our players to his teammates on the outside of our circle of ball watchers.

A top elite school boy team has more system and structure than Brad’s coaching.

It’s pathetic and embarrassing.

 

[Shane Heard]

That vision on First Crck is pretty damning, all players highlighted were senior, core players. All who should know better.

How fast and far do you cut the list? Langford, Caldwell, Merrett, Perkins are the next cabs off my rank for moving on as cancers to this club

The maddening thing is that we have shown we can have some sort of cohesive and system with everyone committing to fast hard play. The first 5 weeks of last year proved that.

Then we lost Marto and had various other injuries to key players and it all went downhill very quickly.

Scott obviously has no clue on how to bring that back and the players are devoid of confidence in each other as a functioning squad.

Drop marks, handpasses at feet, tackles don’t stick ..no defensive running.

They have given up and all Scott can do is yell at clouds with no one believing anything he says.

This is when you sack the coach and start fresh.

 

[Le Archie]

Your paragraph makes a lot of sense but listing Steele, albeit a very good player, has not come from a successful program.

The Saints are hardly the pin-up boys in that area.

Toby Greene is my absolute fantasy. Will never happen but would be a dream for our kids.

 

[Stumpy Pete]

My view here is that Essendon’s injury crisis hit at a very bad time and went for a long time. They were forced to play too many kids for too long. Kids who may have been in and out of the team on planned rotation were instead thrust into the fire. I suspect there are some mental scars that will be hard to get rid of as will the playing habits that desperation can bring.

At the same time they had some absolute pea hearts leave (or wanting to leave) the club.

Scott isn’t their next premiership coach but I’d stick with him for the next couple of years and then they will have the nucleus of a team that will be ready to challenge when led by a fresh voice.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Bit OTT they werent that bad vs Freo could of gotten within 3-4 goals had they taken their chances.

Nobody is expecting Essendon to beat a top 6 team but they do need to be winning against teams around them its just the nature of the business.

Nobody cares how well the rebuild will look in 3 yrs time if they lose to Richmond this week