Brad Scott Sacked

[Gift]

All Brad had to do was ask Chris to help him with his homework to get his grades up from F to C+ but he couldnt accept the fact that hes the Danny Devito twin

 

[Lando_]

We’ve been embarrassing for over two decades now. To bring that campaigner hird back, who is a major factor in why we’ve been this bad would be beyond ludicrous.

Its members like you i feel for. The club is run by amateurs and it doesn't look like its changing anytime soon. Keep your chin up and hope for the best.

 

[Former Decathlete]

They are on a hiding to nothing because they need someone who is strong enough to cut through all the Essendon bullshit, but anyone who does that won't appeal to the Essendon people making the appointment.

I'm not a massive fan of Brad Scott or a hater (I miss the LOLs when he was North coach) but he was undermined by Essendon people for the entirety of his stint at the club. There is never any consistent messaging coming out of the club and the whole "strategy" thing makes you scratch your head.

Essendon had 6 players under the age of 24 on Friday. Yes they also have Edwards, Blakiston, Bryan and Reid who are older but haven't played a lot of footy. Richmond had 12 players under 24. We had 13 and just under 450 games less experience. They seem to want to sell that they have the list profile of a rebuilding club (they don't) and that they competitive (they aren't) but also their strategy is to get younger via the draft (isn't that rebuilding?) but also trading a 30 year old for 3 picks in the 10-20 range is a bad idea because reasons.

You can look at the average WC/Richmond 23 and clearly see they a few years off. If we keep the same team for the next two weeks it will be the first time this year and probably the first time in a couple of years we won't have fielded at least one <10 gamer. You put the Essendon 23 side by side with Freo and tell me what is so different other than talent and performance.

Average age 25, 2078 total games played, 1 x 250 gamer, 4 x 150 gamers, 6 x 100 gamers, 2 x 50 gamers, 10 x <50 gamers.
Average age 25, 2113 total games played. 3 x 150 gamers, 6 x 100 gamers, 8 x 50 gamers, 6 x <50 gamers.

Who at Essendon - or coming into Essendon - is going to put their hand up and admit not trading Merrett was a mistake, expectations are all over the place etc. and put forward an actual strategy/plan?

Yep.

Some Bombers Kool aid drinkers telling me the trade offer wasn't enough for Merrett.

Who cares!

Draft in 3 more kids and sell the "baby Bombers" message to fans.

Instead Welsh decided to "flex" in October and posture about "we are a big club and won't cave to Hawthorn".

This was a five minute sugar hit and just more of the same .

Stupid.

A big club doesn't need to posture or "take a stand" They just quietly do the best deal and move on.

But Welsh wanted to look tough in front of members.

Idiot.

Shout out to Essendon - nobody gives a shit about how tough you act in October.

People do give a shit about how weak you are in the actual season.

Fake tough guy acts in October won't compensate for this.

 

[EddieMurphy]

Same as F1, it's about the cars not the driver. Brad and Chris probably similar as coaches with vastly different lists.

Figjam to the Blues and Brad to the Cats as assistant?

 

[Red Bull]

Accoding to Tom Morris at least 80% of Dons fans want him back.

 

[Vindicater]

Are you insinuating that Welsh is beholden to Sheedy/Dodoro/Coteries

What might be next

Oh we know what is next.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Accoding to Tom Morris at least 80% of Dons fans want him back.

yeah nah

if you take our board as a source point, it would be 90% against.

I think its a vocal minority, who want hird back

 

[Corkintheocean]

How are you able to be on the same page and unify behind a coaching decision if some people in high positions want Hird?

I think he needs a clear run at it so you can finally move on weither Hird has success or not.

And waste another 3-4 years and Caddy, Robey, Farrow, Durham, Sharp's careers?

 

[evo]

"Fans 90/10 in favour of James"

Its gotta happen, surely.

 

[SA HAWK]

Andrew Welsh

Andrew Welsh

Age

43

Ht

188cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.6

5star

interviewing coaching candidates that are not James Hird.

 

[nineteen eighty]

Yep.

Some Bombers Kool aid drinkers telling me the trade offer wasn't enough for Merrett.

Who cares!

Draft in 3 more kids and sell the "baby Bombers" message to fans.

Instead Welsh decided to "flex" in October and posture about "we are a big club and won't cave to Hawthorn".

This was a five minute sugar hit and just more of the same .

Stupid.

A big club doesn't need to posture or "take a stand" They just quietly do the best deal and move on.

But Welsh wanted to look tough in front of members.

Idiot.

Shout out to Essendon - nobody gives a shit about how tough you act in October.

People do give a shit about how weak you are in the actual season.

Fake tough guy acts in October won't compensate for this.

The Hawks offer was insulting in the extreme. Essendon did the right thing with Merrett given what Hawthorn was offering for him.

Let’s see what is tabled end of this year.

Merrett should never have been made captain in the first place. He’s simply not a leader. But he was and that’s on the coaching staff who put him in that role.

 

[SSSSSS]

The Hawks offer was insulting in the extreme. Essendon did the right thing with Merrett given what Hawthorn was offering for him.

Let’s see what is tabled end of this year.

Merrett should never have been made captain in the first place. He’s simply not a leader. But he was and that’s on the coaching staff who put him in that role.

'Insulting in the extreme' and yet it will still be a far superior deal than what they could hope for this season.

Maybe they'll dig their heels in and hold him for another season, only to lose him for nothing next year.

Joe Daniher all over again.

 

[SA HAWK]

yeah nah

if you take our board as a source point, it would be 90% against.

I think its a vocal minority, who want hird back

Not you going by your username.

 

[QuietB]

I hope Dean Wallace can magically find his laptop with Hardy's game plan on it?

What is James Hird even doing at the moment?

 

[Scotland]

I cant for the life of me understand how "Essendon Person" is a factor in anything whatsoever. It shouldn't even be a thought process. In terms of picking a head coach MAYBE you can think about getting a "club person" as a non-Vic club so you understand the impact travel has but that's about the extent of it, for Big Vic, it's completely redundant.

Welsh comes across as just as bad as Sheedy to be honest and I thought once they finally turfed Dodo that the club was finally on board with what's required. How could any new coach take the position knowing they can only stomach about half a year of properly rebuilding...

It's because Essendon live in the past and drink their own bathwater. You can appoint a club person like Worsfold, Buckley, Voss etc. but ultimately they have to be up to the task. I was sceptical when we hired Worsfold as coach but he at least spent a couple of years at Carlton to get out of the WC bubble. Brendon Gale was great for Richmond but was also a lawyer and CEO of the AFLPA before taking over as Richmond CEO. Geelong's success this century came off the back of people like Brian Cook and Mark Thompson. They aren't Geelong people. Hawthorn had Hawthorn people at board level but hired Clarkson as coach, Fagan as footy manager, Graham Wright etc. Not Hawthorn people. People employed to do a job.

Really insular thinking to stack the deck with Essendon people, and the reality is that Essendon have been no good for a quarter of a century so there is a limited number of Essendon people around who have ever been part of a successful Essendon environment. Andrew Welsh played 2002-2011 and won 40% of his games. His qualifications for meddling in the footy dept are what exactly? They will probably end up appointing James Kelly who played and coached at Essendon for a period. From all reports he is highly rated but it will come down to existing relationships with other Essendon people.

 

[SSSSSS]

Has any AFL assistant coach failed upwards as much as Solomon?

Gold Coast were crap when he was there for almost a decade. He was their line coach for defense.
Did nothing at Freo/GWS.

Spent 3 years out of the AFL system with no club wanting to hire him as an experienced assistant coach.

Suddenly gets parachuted in by Welsh without any consultation with the existing head coach and is now appointed as interim head coach.

Essendon have been lambasted for their poor defensive efforts all season and now they appoint...the line coach responsible for defense?

 

[Vindicater]

"Fans 90/10 in favour of James"

Its gotta happen, surely.

90/10 is such bullshit. I don't know any fans personally who want him back.

Not to say he won't be back but that number is utter clickbait.

 

[largebus]

I hope Dean Wallace can magically find his laptop with Hardy's game plan on it?

What is James Hird even doing at the moment?

Does work for channel 9 with Bartel but his main job the last 10 years is waiting by the phone for a call from Sheedy and the board.

 

[Corkintheocean]

It's because Essendon live in the past and drink their own bathwater. You can appoint a club person like Worsfold, Buckley, Voss etc. but ultimately they have to be up to the task. I was sceptical when we hired Worsfold as coach but he at least spent a couple of years at Carlton to get out of the WC bubble. Brendon Gale was great for Richmond but was also a lawyer and CEO of the AFLPA before taking over as Richmond CEO. Geelong's success this century came off the back of people like Brian Cook and Mark Thompson. They aren't Geelong people. Hawthorn had Hawthorn people at board level but hired Clarkson as coach, Fagan as footy manager, Graham Wright etc. Not Hawthorn people. People employed to do a job.

Really insular thinking to stack the deck with Essendon people, and the reality is that Essendon have been no good for a quarter of a century so there is a limited number of Essendon people around who have ever been part of a successful Essendon environment. Andrew Welsh played 2002-2011 and won 40% of his games. His qualifications for meddling in the footy dept are what exactly? They will probably end up appointing James Kelly who played and coached at Essendon for a period. From all reports he is highly rated but it will come down to existing relationships with other Essendon people.

FWIW Worsfold underperformed as West Coast coach.

 

[Red Bull]

What is James Hird even doing at the moment?

Oh … he’s been busy …

 

[Bostonian]

Essendon are such copy cats.

We draft shit for years, they draft shit for years.

We hire a shit coach, they hire a shit coach.

We get rid of a shit coach, they get rid of a shit coach.

Get a life Essendon and stop copying.

 

[SSSSSS]

Essendon are such copy cats.

We draft shit for years, they draft shit for years.

We hire a shit coach, they hire a shit coach.

We get rid of a shit coach, they get rid of a shit coach.

Get a life Essendon and stop copying.

The generational crapness of Carlton and Essendon needs to be studied.

 

[matey]

Welsh today was so reassuring to the Bomber fans, ‘We ain’t going backwards from here”. Well Einstein unless the AFL have brought in the demotion system of bottom teams dropping into the VFL …… you could be right! Then when talking about the board meeting they had on the sacking of Brad he started replacing the word ‘we’ with ‘l’. Let’s all hope that Welsh remains president for the next 20 years

 

[Scotland]

Yep.

Some Bombers Kool aid drinkers telling me the trade offer wasn't enough for Merrett.

Who cares!

Draft in 3 more kids and sell the "baby Bombers" message to fans.

Instead Welsh decided to "flex" in October and posture about "we are a big club and won't cave to Hawthorn".

This was a five minute sugar hit and just more of the same .

Stupid.

A big club doesn't need to posture or "take a stand" They just quietly do the best deal and move on.

But Welsh wanted to look tough in front of members.

Idiot.

Shout out to Essendon - nobody gives a shit about how tough you act in October.

People do give a shit about how weak you are in the actual season.

Fake tough guy acts in October won't compensate for this.

You just have to look at Melbourne to see how much they missed the point.

Melbourne added Latrelle Pickett and Xavier Taylor as a direct result of the Christian Petracca trade. Those two guys are hardly the driving force behind Melbourne turning around their fortunes. Bit early to judge players drafted after pick 10 but Essendon could've had someone of the calibre of Josh Lindsay.

The Dees are benefiting from a fresh voice and whatever issues that were lingering from Petracca/Oliver/May/Goodwin are gone. Essendon were crap with Merrett winning B&F number 6 and they are crap again this year with him probably still top 3. He was never going to change their fortunes this year or next, and they aren't contending before he retires unless he breaks Pendles' record.

The "stand" should've been to kick him out and say one in all in, you don't want to be here we don't need you.

 

[Vindicater]

Has any AFL assistant coach failed upwards as much as Solomon?

Gold Coast were crap when he was there for almost a decade. He was their line coach for defense.
Did nothing at Freo/GWS.

Spent 3 years out of the AFL system with no club wanting to hire him as an experienced assistant coach.

Suddenly gets parachuted in by Welsh without any consultation with the existing head coach and is now appointed as interim head coach.

Essendon have been lambasted for their poor defensive efforts all season and now they appoint...the line coach responsible for defense?

He is shit.

Perfect for us and the way we are run.

Brad Scott was a shit coach and we somehow found somebody worse.