Player Watch Brayden Maynard

[Kappa]

You've got to make up your mind Kap - a minute ago you were saying it was undisciplined and proof that he isn't a leader, now you are saying that it's standard practice?

I think he was going with the standard practice of arm chopping to make the ball spill and waste time so that the defence could set - then he saw the ball was punchable mid roundhouse.

Don't recall saying it was standard practice, and yes it's undisciplined to swing your arm at a guys head... He's looking at Lloyd as he runs in, he knows exactly where his head is, he's not that uncoordinated.

 

[Seedsfan]

He did swing a stiff arm through at head height in a marking contest, which did smash someone in the head. His spoiling technique is just one you can't use - or if you do, you've got to make sure you don't connect with a head. If he was punching straight at the ball rather than a big swinging roundhouse that was always going to collect the player as well as the ball, there would be no problem.

Head height or ball height?

 

[sr36]

Head height or ball height?

It was both. I reckon he misjudged the ball flight, got in a muddle and stuffed up. I don't think it was intentional, but he'll be suspended, as you just can't whack someone in the head in that situation, even if you also whack the ball as well as the head.

 

[stormskye]

The rules are there to protect the head, and prevent actions like what Maynard did. Like it or not it was reckless, and with all the concussion evidence I have no issues with the rules in place. He was stupid, and will likely get 2, maybe a plea for one

 

[sr36]

The rules are there to protect the head, and prevent actions like what Maynard did. Like it or not it was reckless, and with all the concussion evidence I have no issues with the rules in place. He was stupid, and will likely get 2, maybe a plea for one

I think it will be graded as severe impact, due to what looked like bad concussion - which will make it 3 weeks unfortunately.
Careless, high contact, severe impact is 3 weeks.
The impact is the only part that is debatable, as the injury was probably mainly from the head hitting the ground - my guess is that they rule that as being consequential to the strike like it is in a sling tackle and thus Maynard cops the full 3 weeks suspension for it, but i'm not sure how they've ruled in the past.

 

[stormskye]

I think it will be graded as severe impact, due to concussion - which will make it 3 weeks unfortunately.

Unfortunate, but just a typical Maynard brain fade…

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

Pruess has to go for his sling tackle on Grundy yet the umps didn't bat an eyelid.

If Grundy got 2 weeks for that Ben Brown tackle a while back then Pruess' tackle is probably worth a week I reckon.

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

I know we are short handed down back but Maynard should not play on key position forwards or 3rd tall forwards over 190cm. He's overmatched against talls.

He did a good job on Darling a couple of times.

 

[sr36]

Here's the punishment table for anyone interested:

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Careless/high/high for a 2 weeker, based on that.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Great to have another Collingwood person in the media again. Bucks is arguing for zero weeks. Don't see it happening.

 

[Seedsfan]

It was both. I reckon he misjudged the ball flight, got in a muddle and stuffed up. I don't think it was intentional, but he'll be suspended, as you just can't whack someone in the head in that situation, even if you also whack the ball as well as the head.

Yeah you are allowed to make a play at the ball. It’s a free kick and no more

 

[Quicky]

Strange, normally Maynard punches the ball with a straight arm to get maximum arm length... but in this situation he swung a round house at a bloke he was looking directly at and hit him in the jaw... just a coincidence I'm sure...

Anyway, we'll see what the MRP have to say. If he gets off without penalty then I'll apologise and say it was a good spoil.

Maynard won't get off because he made head high contact and the onus is on him to avoid it as the spoiler. If they considered intent like they used to he'd get off.

 

[Scodog10]

His lack of discipline on field is a reoccurring theme, not a one off incident, which is why only people on bigfooty could put him as a future captain

Moore was ill disciplined yesterday are we crossing him off as well? Adams has a checkered past and is ill disciplined on the field he gone as well? Also why does the language reflect a once off incident? Did you listen to the commentary yesterday re his captaincy aspirations?

 

[gouki88]

Love to see Bucks going in to bat for him. Bucks is a better Pies representative in the media than Eddie (and it is not close!).

Maynard & Moore for co-captains. Complement each other personality-wise and play-wise

 

[Pistol Night]

Love to see Bucks going in to bat for him. Bucks is a better Pies representative in the media than Eddie (and it is not close!).

Maynard & Moore for co-captains. Complement each other personality-wise and play-wise

We need some kind of defence in the media seeing as Robbo thinks we’re Ukraine and he’s Putin

 

[gouki88]

We need some kind of defence in the media seeing as Robbo thinks we’re Ukraine and he’s Putin

Those couple of months of FoxFooty coverage where Robbo was sick were the best they've done in years. 360 became watchable all of a sudden

 

[sr36]

Yeah you are allowed to make a play at the ball. It’s a free kick and no more

It's pretty cut and dry under the mro system. . He's getting suspended. It was careless, high contact. Noone could argue against that. For him to get off with only a fine, they'd have to judge the impact as low - despite the bloke getting knocked out.

 

[sideswipe]

Yeah you are allowed to make a play at the ball. It’s a free kick and no more

That sort of thinking fell by the wayside years ago. Sadly I can't see it can be classed as anything other than careless, high, high or even severe. They only way he gets off is if somehow the contact was classed as accidental instead of careless, which is an impossibility given he made the choice to spoil.

The tribunal has new guidelines this year around head high bumps: any Careless or Intentional Forceful Front-On Conduct or Rough Conduct (High Bumps) where High Contact has been made and that has the potential to cause injury will usually be classified as either Medium, High or Severe Impact (i.e. not Low Impact) even though the extent of the actual physical impact may be low.

On that basis I reckon even though he came off worse for wear, Kreuger will likely cop 1-2 as well.

 

[Seedsfan]

That sort of thinking fell by the wayside years ago. Sadly I can't see it can be classed as anything other than careless, high, high or even severe. They only way he gets off is if somehow the contact was classed as accidental instead of careless, which is an impossibility given he made the choice to spoil.

The tribunal has new guidelines this year around head high bumps: any Careless or Intentional Forceful Front-On Conduct or Rough Conduct (High Bumps) where High Contact has been made and that has the potential to cause injury will usually be classified as either Medium, High or Severe Impact (i.e. not Low Impact) even though the extent of the actual physical impact may be low.

On that basis I reckon even though he came off worse for wear, Kreuger will likely cop 1-2 as well.

Severe? How so? No way we do not challenge a severe grading

The fact he landed heavily and hit his head is not relevant at all

 

[Seedsfan]

It's pretty cut and dry under the mro system. . He's getting suspended. It was careless, high contact. Noone could argue against that. For him to get off with only a fine, they'd have to judge the impact as low - despite the bloke getting knocked out.

But the MRO will only be judging on the contact of the spoil not the fact that he hits his head hard on the way down knocking himself out. While it’s unfortunate it’s also irrelevant

 

[Pistol Night]

Those couple of months of FoxFooty coverage where Robbo was sick were the best they've done in years. 360 became watchable all of a sudden

I skimmed past a Herald article last week where i think he was blaming Collingwood for Toby Greene's on field incidents in some way. I reckon he'll somehow blame the Pies for making Putin invade Ukraine next.

 

[sideswipe]

But the MRO will only be judging on the contact of the spoil not the fact that he hits his head hard on the way down knocking himself out. While it’s unfortunate it’s also irrelevant

Admire your attempt at sounding certain. But the only certainty from the above is that you are not familiar with the tribunal guidelines. You should try reading them. Here's a start.

...consideration will be given not only to the impact between the offending Player and the Victim Player, but also any other impact to the Victim Player as a result of such impact. By way of an example, where a Victim Player as a result of the impact from the offending Player is pushed into the path of a fast-moving third Player, the impact to the Victim Player may be classified as High or Severe, even though the level of impact between the offending Player and the Victim Player was only Low or Medium

 

[Seedsfan]

Admire your attempt at sounding certain. But the only certainty from the above is that you are not familiar with the tribunal guidelines. You should try reading them. Here's a start.

...consideration will be given not only to the impact between the offending Player and the Victim Player, but also any other impact to the Victim Player as a result of such impact. By way of an example, where a Victim Player as a result of the impact from the offending Player is pushed into the path of a fast-moving third Player, the impact to the Victim Player may be classified as High or Severe, even though the level of impact between the offending Player and the Victim Player was only Low or Medium

And was he pushed into the path of a fast moving player? No he wasn’t there is absolutely no relevance to that

 

[sr36]

But the MRO will only be judging on the contact of the spoil not the fact that he hits his head hard on the way down knocking himself out. While it’s unfortunate it’s also irrelevant

Yeah I don't know that part and how they judge that, but even if you're right, I think it'll still be judged as medium impact 1 week. That's the best case scenario. I reckon it's unlikely though. Does the bloke fall like that if he wasn't made groggy by the whack to the head?