Player Watch Brayden Maynard

[granniewolf]

A 5 or 6 year deal for a 30yo is going to be hard to knock back. I doubt we'll offer him 5 years. I just have a feeling that he's going to sign a 2 or 3 year deal with us and then reassess after that

Isn't he 28 at the moment? 29 in September this year?

 

[manicpie]

Isn't he 28 at the moment? 29 in September this year?

He could be.

 

[Chunky Steak]

I think age is also a factor.

Yep, it is. And Bruzzy's age will definitely count against any compo, unfortunately.

Here's a summary from Sporting News:

"The exact formula used by the AFL for free agency compensation picks is unknown but the facts can be analysed.

A points value is assigned to free agents based on:

- Their average guaranteed contract value

- What percentile of the AFL contracts theirs falls into

- Age - with 25-year-old's getting most value

Once the point values are assessed, free agents are ranked in bands with the top five percent getting a first-round compensation pick, while the bottom 30 per cent get no compensation."

I would tend to agree that we may only get a second rounder, unless the money and years are off the scales.

 

[jmac70]

Isn't he 28 at the moment? 29 in September this year?

Correct.

 

[ipswichpies]

Yep, it is. And Bruzzy's age will definitely count against any compo, unfortunately.

Here's a summary from Sporting News:

"The exact formula used by the AFL for free agency compensation picks is unknown but the facts can be analysed.

A points value is assigned to free agents based on:

- Their average guaranteed contract value

- What percentile of the AFL contracts theirs falls into

- Age - with 25-year-old's getting most value

Once the point values are assessed, free agents are ranked in bands with the top five percent getting a first-round compensation pick, while the bottom 30 per cent get no compensation."

I would tend to agree that we may only get a second rounder, unless the money and years are off the scales.

You do not think the reported 6 million for 6 years does not equal a 1st band compensation pick,I would have to respectfully disagree with you on that.

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

Does anyone know why he changed his number?

 

[Chunky Steak]

You do not think the reported 6 million for 6 years does not equal a 1st band compensation pick,I would have to respectfully disagree with you on that.

I appreciate the respect with which you delivered your disagreement! But the thing is, if you read the last line of my post, you actually agree with me.

The concern I have with the six year rumour is that it's not been substantiated by anyone to my knowledge - if you've seen something I'd be keen to read it! Because if he goes, I'd love for that compo to help land Rowell or Richards. Twomey reported on Gettable that his info is that North have not yet tabled a formal offer since their last one in 2024, although they remain very much interested.

His thought (and it seemed like pure speculation and just his opinion, to be fair) was that it would be more like 4 years. I'm no closer to the actual truth than anyone else, but a 4 year deal for what will be a 29 year old player turning 30 at the end of the first year, in light of the weighting given to age in the compensation calculation, would suggest a lower likelihood of a first round pick. But I also have to say, surely that's not enough to get Bruzzy to leave us?

Long story short, I agree... a six year deal at a million plus a year would seem to be enough to get us band one compo.

 

[DopeMaster]

Seems like the 6mil over 6 years may have just been someone’s imagination.

****ing footy media.

 

[watt price tully]

Correct - he was the inaugural coach of the first Belarus Austn Rules team

Wasn’t it the Moustachistan first 18?

 

[ZEV]

Does anyone know why he changed his number?

Why new Magpies vice-captain Maynard changed jumper numbers

“I didn’t have to think about it at all.”

archive.sen.com.au

 

[NMBB]

Wasn’t it the Moustachistan first 18?

He was a great coach - our women loved him

 

[Pistol Night]

Does anyone know why he changed his number?

Probably to stop people ringing him

 

[TradeDraft]

Seems like the 6mil over 6 years may have just been someone’s imagination.

****ing footy media.

His Manager's

 

[Hardas]

Jake Niall article on the situation:

'...North Melbourne are one of the main suitors for Collingwood’s robust defender, though they have not tabled him an offer and aren’t looking at a term as long as six years...'

Why Maynard’s decision to stay or go really matters

What value do you place on the intangible impact of a player who’s beloved by teammates, and whose absence would be keenly felt in the locker room? Brayden Maynard is no Glenn Archer, but he’s that type of player.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Apex36]

Jake Niall article on the situation:

'...North Melbourne are one of the main suitors for Collingwood’s robust defender, though they have not tabled him an offer and aren’t looking at a term as long as six years...'

Why Maynard’s decision to stay or go really matters

What value do you place on the intangible impact of a player who’s beloved by teammates, and whose absence would be keenly felt in the locker room? Brayden Maynard is no Glenn Archer, but he’s that type of player.

www.theage.com.au

Honestly that story by Jay Clark was disappointing. I normally don’t mind him, but those figures he threw out about North and Maynard were such obvious horseshit. I don’t know why but I expected better from him tbh.

 

[cakewalk06]

This Maynard stuff strikes me as potentially the first blowback from the decision to pay big dollars for Perryman. I think Perryman's looked good so far and it's nothing against him personally. But lobbing someone there among a well-established list on such big dollars is bound to make players think about what they should be paid, particularly those getting towards the end of their careers. Maynard's manager would rightly argue he is worth every bit as much as Perryman.

It's also going to make for some awkward discussions with the managers of Bobby Hill, who is not on big money yet.

The players could probably live with paying big dollars for two-time All Australian Houston. But we really need Perryman to emerge among our top five-six players. In any case, it's evidence we can't really stand in anyone's way who wants to leave in free agency for the big bucks. If Bruzzy can get 800-900 for a few years and we can't pay that, i would wish him all the best.

 

[jmac70]

This Maynard stuff strikes me as potentially the first blowback from the decision to pay big dollars for Perryman. I think Perryman's looked good so far and it's nothing against him personally. But lobbing someone there among a well-established list on such big dollars is bound to make players think about what they should be paid, particularly those getting towards the end of their careers. Maynard's manager would rightly argue he is worth every bit as much as Perryman.

It's also going to make for some awkward discussions with the managers of Bobby Hill, who is not on big money yet.

The players could probably live with paying big dollars for two-time All Australian Houston. But we really need Perryman to emerge among our top five-six players. In any case, it's evidence we can't really stand in anyone's way who wants to leave in free agency for the big bucks. If Bruzzy can get 800-900 for a few years and we can't pay that, i would wish him all the best.

It’s got nothing to do with Perryman.

 

[granniewolf]

It’s got nothing to do with Perryman.

If I were Bruzzy I'd be looking at Perryman's contract and feeling a bit undervalued if I were on considerably less money.
I think anyone would.

 

[sr36]

This Maynard stuff strikes me as potentially the first blowback from the decision to pay big dollars for Perryman. I think Perryman's looked good so far and it's nothing against him personally. But lobbing someone there among a well-established list on such big dollars is bound to make players think about what they should be paid, particularly those getting towards the end of their careers. Maynard's manager would rightly argue he is worth every bit as much as Perryman.

It's also going to make for some awkward discussions with the managers of Bobby Hill, who is not on big money yet.

The players could probably live with paying big dollars for two-time All Australian Houston. But we really need Perryman to emerge among our top five-six players. In any case, it's evidence we can't really stand in anyone's way who wants to leave in free agency for the big bucks. If Bruzzy can get 800-900 for a few years and we can't pay that, i would wish him all the best.

It's ridiculous that you get paid more for being new and not having given prior service to the club. But it's just the nature of the FA rules. You've got to pay them more. Even if it results in us losing Bruzzy well wind up with Perryman for Bruzzy and a decent draft pick, plus a year with both of them. Or if it's a non fa who you lose, you get the fa and the trade value.

 

[jmac70]

If I were Bruzzy I'd be looking at Perryman's contract and feeling a bit undervalued if I were on considerably less money.
I think anyone would.

Perryman is just one player in a complex salary structure. His contract is not going to push Maynard out.
The club will have a contract in mind for Maynard based on his age and ongoing place in the team. Perryman’s wage does not change that.

Maynard will either negotiate a new contract with the club or take an increased offer at a new club. We can’t match an outside offer.

 

[Harry O]

Sounds like he wants to stay. We will reward him with a good contract. The rest is just outside noise

 

[Hardas]

Honestly that story by Jay Clark was disappointing. I normally don’t mind him, but those figures he threw out about North and Maynard were such obvious horseshit. I don’t know why but I expected better from him tbh.

Too true.

 

[TradeDraft]

Jake Niall article on the situation:

'...North Melbourne are one of the main suitors for Collingwood’s robust defender, though they have not tabled him an offer and aren’t looking at a term as long as six years...'

Why Maynard’s decision to stay or go really matters

What value do you place on the intangible impact of a player who’s beloved by teammates, and whose absence would be keenly felt in the locker room? Brayden Maynard is no Glenn Archer, but he’s that type of player.

www.theage.com.au

Then unless they Offer him Stupid Money I can't see him Leaving then

 

[TradeDraft]

If I were Bruzzy I'd be looking at Perryman's contract and feeling a bit undervalued if I were on considerably less money.
I think anyone would.

Highly Doubt he would

 

[Apex36]

It's ridiculous that you get paid more for being new and not having given prior service to the club. But it's just the nature of the FA rules. You've got to pay them more. Even if it results in us losing Bruzzy well wind up with Perryman for Bruzzy and a decent draft pick, plus a year with both of them. Or if it's a non fa who you lose, you get the fa and the trade value.

As you said that’s the nature of the beast, and most players understand that, hence why many turn their back on the extra $$ to remain if they want to be a one club player. There’s also a lot of benefits to being a one club player, particularly for big clubs like the pies.
I think that the only player we’ve actually lost to FA from memory was Thomas? And even then I’m skeptical about us actually wanting to retain him. I think Bucks was quite happy to see him out the door at the time.