Brett Deledio in 2013

[bobbycatsfanme]

Just out of interest would Deledio be a walk up start to the team this year?

it's interesting thinking about these type of questions isn't it

I'm not sure if it's because Richmond have had no success in decades that I look down at Deledio or whether he's actually part of their problem as one of the so called 'stars' who have been around the block long enough now to say "enough is enough"!

It takes more than one player to win games of footy of course but it only takes an individual to stand up and demand success from his teammates and I just get the feeling Richmond players, like a few other Melbourne-based clubs, are more than happy just playing for the love of the game and the obvious rewards that come with it.

But do they really hurt?
I mean...we will see how Collingwood respond in 2012 as it seems they have found a core group of players who have that obsessive inner drive to win but I doubt Deledio and many others at Richmond truly want to taste success like our own Chappy and others did/have/doing.

 

[bobbycatsfanme]

I have heard rumors about Mick Malthouse coming back to Richmond as Hardwick has been on borrowed time so perhaps a new coach and the possibility of luring a big name Collingwood player plus a couple others via free agency could finally be enough to turn Richmond's poor record around

 

[My5t3r10u5]

... Lets go target Patton or someone like that and throw everything at one star forward.

nope. Brown, Vardy and Kersten have shown nothing yet. Nothing of serious substance anyway...

So you want to target Patton who has shown less than Brown and Vardy and the same as Kersten

 

[muttweed]

We won't take him. As another Cats supporter mentioned on the Richmond board, we like to raise our own players from the start. There's the odd Mooney and Ottens, but I suspect Lids won't be put in that category.

 

[meto]

Re: Brett Deledio 2013?

Cant say I really do get the drift...

Kelly will be pushing 29, so take him out.

Deledio is an absolute star playing in an underachieving side.

Key position forward or not - if he's the best player on the market, we'd be stupid not to have a crack at him. Would be a terrific fit into the club with his excellent attitude.

Totally agree!

Just think we should be drafting talls for key posts next year and developing Brown and Kersten for 2013.
Deledio would go great in our lineup.

 

[couchy555]

If we could get him without over spending then i say why not.

I like the idea of rebuilding the team first then drafting a senior player from another team when we know of what difficiencies we have, as we did with Ottens.

Feels kind of mean spirited taking one of Richmonds very few proven players, kinda feels like taking oil from the Iraqii's. Oh wait.....

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

The new veterans list rule will see us with possibly $700k in savings as we could put 7 players on the Vet list at $100k each being taken off of the TPP.

For me I would like to see this money spent on securing the 2009 draft players long term with any left over going to see if we could attract a KPD to help cover the eventual Scarlo retirement

A great point and a reason why I'm such a fan of the new vet rule as it encourages clubs to keep good servants on the list longer. Is the veteran rule applicable to 10 year players? Not sure what defines vet.

Hopefully that means Hunt, Enright, Corey, Wojack, Scarlett all qualify with Kel, SJ, Bartel the next cabs of the rank. Would mean huge savings!

I also agree with securing the services of our new crop before going out and buying players who there is no guarantee will perform to the same level at gee long. We would really need to asses what shortfalls we have as the new generation comes through as it seems we are fairly strong within most areas at the moment.

 

[Sttew]

Re: Brett Deledio 2013?

not worth the money he'd cost

Disagree. Deledio is very talented and versatile. He is wasted at Richmond. IMO, if Patrick Dangerfield is out of the picture, we should go for a Deledio.

Ottens wasn't cheap, and I remember in the first couple of years some said it was a poor investment. In the long run, though, we got more than our money back.

 

[Gak Attack]

He would be a walk up start into the Geelong of 2007-09.

Would of been scary given the pace he had back then too and his good foot skills when he probably wouldn't of been one of the first 2-3 to be tagged.

Obviously to get him given the likely draft position you guys would have if he went all the way to draft, there would need to be a trade. Just wondering what you guys would be willing to give up? Obviously with us a good/promising big will be #1 on our requests.

 

[meto]

Dangerfield FTW. Geelong loves hard players and he's one of em. Plus being a jet helps too. More likely you'd think considering he's from moggs creek. Ablett compensation plus a medium player

You're right you know, Danger would be the better suit with plenty of bucks left over, think he's more the type for us as well!

 

[bobbycatsfanme]

Re: Brett Deledio 2013?

Ottens wasn't cheap, and I remember in the first couple of years some said it was a poor investment. In the long run, though, we got more than our money back.

seems like Ottens has been at the club for so much longer and yet we got him in 2005 but what an overall pickup he turned out to be!
Has to sit alongside Polly Farmer & Ablett as our greatest ever recruits.

 

[meto]

Re: Brett Deledio 2013?

seems like Ottens has been at the club for so much longer and yet we got him in 2005 but what an overall pickup he turned out to be!
Has to sit alongside Polly Farmer & Ablett as our greatest ever recruits.

If Deledio was a 203cm ruck like Ottens I'd say for sure but that he aint, the only thing he has in common with Ottens is he's from Richmond and that's about it!
If Simpson carn't get up, we need to spend money on a big ruck, that's what's a priority when we start throwing money IMO.

 

[Sttew]

Re: Brett Deledio 2013?

seems like Ottens has been at the club for so much longer and yet we got him in 2005 but what an overall pickup he turned out to be!
Has to sit alongside Polly Farmer & Ablett as our greatest ever recruits.

Yes, alongside Brett Spinks, Gary Sidebottom and Marcus Drum

 

[manboob]

Would of been scary given the pace he had back then too and his good foot skills when he probably wouldn't of been one of the first 2-3 to be tagged.

Obviously to get him given the likely draft position you guys would have if he went all the way to draft, there would need to be a trade. Just wondering what you guys would be willing to give up? Obviously with us a good/promising big will be #1 on our requests.

Given Wells' record I doubt that we would trade for him if we weren't to secure him via Free Agency.

 

[Vdubs]

"At the end of the day", it really depends on how we finish at the end of 2012. If we have an uncustomary slide out of the top 4, which many predict, and dare I say it, out of top 8, then surely we will need to get some ready made relatively young class. Perhaps Richmond may begin their ascent at the same time. That would be unfortunate timing for Deledio, like a Buckley scenario.

 

[Boxhead_31]

You're right you know, Danger would be the better suit with plenty of bucks left over, think he's more the type for us as well!

Dangerfield isn't up for FA until 2016

Drafted 2007 first game 2008 so we have to make a deal with the Crows if we want to get him to KP

 

[meto]

Dangerfield isn't up for FA until 2016

Drafted 2007 first game 2008 so we have to make a deal with the Crows if we want to get him to KP

Yes, but would prefer.

 

[Bring back Moloney]

Re: Brett Deledio 2013?

Disagree. Deledio is very talented and versatile. He is wasted at Richmond. IMO, if Patrick Dangerfield is out of the picture, we should go for a Deledio.

Ottens wasn't cheap, and I remember in the first couple of years some said it was a poor investment. In the long run, though, we got more than our money back.

My username is evidence of the feeling towards the Ottens trade at the time!! I was a big fan of young Brent's ability!

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Was Ottens cheap back in the day? (I don't actually know the details of that trade)

I'd take him and I think geelongs position (salary cap wise) will be improving drastically over the next few years.

He is holding off contract talks because he wants to see some success

I think his efforts in a (mainly) losing team have been admirable, I'd love to see him play in a team where he might be the 3rd or 4th player the opposition plot against, instead of being number 1 each week.

also. I dunno why but I see a lot of Deledio in Mitch Duncan

He isn't the first player tagged at Richmond anymore with Cotchin most definitely the first tagged , and generally clubs have gone to Martin with their 2nd tagger . Whilst opposing clubs appear to be putting more time defensively into Reiwoldt and at times late in season 2011, Houli .

I have heard rumors about Mick Malthouse coming back to Richmond as Hardwick has been on borrowed time so perhaps a new coach and the possibility of luring a big name Collingwood player plus a couple others via free agency could finally be enough to turn Richmond's poor record around

I think your informants are F.O.S.


I'd be happy enough if the clubs could trade Vardy and Duncan, for Deledio ?

 

[The rabbi]

I'd be happy enough if the clubs could trade Vardy and Duncan, for Deledio ?

Not in your wettest dreams.

 

[sexyhunk]

He isn't the first player tagged at Richmond anymore with Cotchin most definitely the first tagged , and generally clubs have gone to Martin with their 2nd tagger . Whilst opposing clubs appear to be putting more time defensively into Reiwoldt and at times late in season 2011, Houli .


I think your informants are F.O.S.


I'd be happy enough if the clubs could trade Vardy and Duncan, for Deledio ?

of course you would, just as i be happy if the clubs traded reiwold and cotchin for kelly.

 

[Spluff]

I'd be happy enough if the clubs could trade Vardy and Duncan, for Deledio ?

I don't think Richmond would do this. If we're going to lose Deledio, it will be for picks, or for a single player of similar quality, not multiple lesser players.

 

[Megaman123]

I don't think Richmond would do this. If we're going to lose Deledio, it will be for picks, or for a single player of similar quality, not multiple lesser players.

Would be irrelevant, the Cats wouldnt trade those two, full stop. And with free agency, we dont have to trade anything to get him, we would make an offer, Richmond have a chance to match offer, then player makes his call. The AFL then decide compensation for the player if he leaves. Is this correct?

 

[sexyhunk]

Would be irrelevant, the Cats wouldnt trade those two, full stop. And with free agency, we dont have to trade anything to get him, we would make an offer, Richmond have a chance to match offer, then player makes his call. The AFL then decide compensation for the player if he leaves. Is this correct?

dont think the player can make any calls, I could be wrong but I think if his current club choose to match any offers. The player have to stay.

 

[Boxhead_31]

dont think the player can make any calls, I could be wrong but I think if his current club choose to match any offers. The player have to stay.

It is still the players call he can accept his original clubs offer or he can then reject it and go into the draft or PSD and be taken by anyone