Cam Rayner

[Happy_Neale]

you mean, he gets the best defender.

The dees fwd line issues is one of the biggest myths in footy. 5th most goals scored in 2021, 6th in 2022, 6th in 2023 before plummeting to 14th last season.

Because they rely on winning the midfield battle, they can’t rely on Fritsch to create contests and his own goals unless they are from uncontested chest marks or Joe the goose’s from the square. He is diabolically bad at contested marking for a first choice forward and he gives zero off the ball as well.

How did the midfield go this year without Trac and Clarry in form again? And how was Fritsch’s season compared to previous years?

 

[Happy_Neale]

That's like saying who's coming out of the dees midfield to fit Neale. Fritsch has kicked more goals than any other lion in the last 5 years, so all of them. Cameron, Rayner, Daniher has left, Lohmann is a gun but gets the 2nd worst defender after Rayner and clearly Mr.Sub Morris would be a permanent ressies player.

You would've won last years granny by 4 goals.

Last 5 seasons goals
Bailey Fritsch 215
Charlie Cameron 243

Try again

 

[Junction Lion]

Last 5 seasons goals
Bailey Fritsch 215
Charlie Cameron 243

Try again

Nice one Happy.

Another fact. Daniher has only been with the Lions for 4 years. So last 4 years:

Bailey Fritsch 193
Joe Daniher 204 ( yes, I know Joe has retired. The point is we have had two players kick more than your main man in the last 4 years)

Try again

 

[Happy_Neale]

Nice one Happy.

Another fact. Daniher has only been with the Lions for 4 years. So last 4 years:

Bailey Fritsch 193
Joe Daniher 204 ( yes, I know Joe has retired. The point is we have had two players kick more than your main man in the last 4 years)

Try again

I only knew this because Dan has used this argument before. Last time he tried to say Fritsch averaged more over that period which was more impressive (despite kicking less actual goals).

I don’t know about you but I would prefer more footys going through the actual big sticks rather than someone who may or may not have kicked a similar amount had he not been injured or whatever in those years.

 

[KissKiss]

role players kick match winners all of the time.

Role players shouldn't be an insult in anyway. Roleplayers win premierships. Too many people focus on the guns kicking the winning goal and not the bump, tackle, lead into space, tap on, etc that created the goal.

Too many egos and glory hounds kills most teams from ongoing success.

 

[Whatamark]

Because they rely on winning the midfield battle, they can’t rely on Fritsch to create contests and his own goals unless they are from uncontested chest marks or Joe the goose’s from the square.

This is spot on. All non-pressure chest marks or over the back from a quick turnover cos he's last one left in the forward 50.

 

[danster168]

Nice one Happy.

Another fact. Daniher has only been with the Lions for 4 years. So last 4 years:

Bailey Fritsch 193
Joe Daniher 204 ( yes, I know Joe has retired. The point is we have had two players kick more than your main man in the last 4 years)

Try again

Last 4 years
Charlie Cameron 2.07 goals per game (212)
Joe Daniher 2.12 goals per game (204)
Fritsch 2.19 goals per game (193 goals)

So considering it's a large sample size of 4 years, we can see that Fritsch kicks more goals than any other Brisbane player.

So he would be the most dangerous fwd when taking the field.

Try again.

And don't give me any nonsense that goal totals is more reflective than goal average over such a large sample size of games.

The prosecution rests.

 

[Elixuh]

lol, I'm calling your bluff.

no bluffs today Danny, only truths

 

[Junction Lion]

Last 4 years
Charlie Cameron 2.07 goals per game (212)
Joe Daniher 2.12 goals per game (204)
Fritsch 2.19 goals per game (193 goals)

So considering it's a large sample size of 4 years, we can see that Fritsch kicks more goals than any other Brisbane player.

So he would be the most dangerous fwd when taking the field.

Try again.

And don't give me any nonsense that goal totals is more reflective than goal average over such a large sample size of games.

The prosecution rests.

Here is your statement, “Frisch has kicked more goals than any other lion in the last 5 years.” Not a lawyer are you?

 

[jonnobackpocket]

All I know is if there was a big footy draft Floggster would be the last pick in the mid season draft, then be asked to go and train with the VFL because nobody wants him around because he just so full of shit and doesn’t shut up. Then come the end of the big footy season he would be asking Clarry and Goodie to go get on the nose beers and hit the pokies, they would decline because they would rather pour acid in their eyes than spend 10 seconds with him. You and your arguments suck Floggster- us Brisbane supporters are generally nice people, me not so much, but you need to know you just a goose.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Here is your statement, “Frisch has kicked more goals than any other lion in the last 5 years.” Not a lawyer are you?

Nah nah but but…..

 

[Junction Lion]

Role players shouldn't be an insult in anyway. Roleplayers win premierships. Too many people focus on the guns kicking the winning goal and not the bump, tackle, lead into space, tap on, etc that created the goal.

Too many egos and glory hounds kills most teams from ongoing success.

The good thing is our man does all of that as well as doing his role. Lions hierarchy have backed him in for a 6 year deal. I trust them before a couple of nuffies here. The team love him and he is great for the culture of the club. Dan can have his Fritta. How's the culture a the Dees at the moment danster168

 

[CarterS]

Last 4 years
Charlie Cameron 2.07 goals per game (212)
Joe Daniher 2.12 goals per game (204)
Fritsch 2.19 goals per game (193 goals)

So considering it's a large sample size of 4 years, we can see that Fritsch kicks more goals than any other Brisbane player.

So he would be the most dangerous fwd when taking the field.

Try again.

And don't give me any nonsense that goal totals is more reflective than goal average over such a large sample size of games.

The prosecution rests.

The way you're able to twist any stat to fit your own argument, you should be in politics

 

[Happy_Neale]

I only knew this because Dan has used this argument before. Last time he tried to say Fritsch averaged more over that period which was more impressive (despite kicking less actual goals).

I don’t know about you but I would prefer more footys going through the actual big sticks rather than someone who may or may not have kicked a similar amount had he not been injured or whatever in those years.

Last 4 years
Charlie Cameron 2.07 goals per game (212)
Joe Daniher 2.12 goals per game (204)
Fritsch 2.19 goals per game (193 goals)

So considering it's a large sample size of 4 years, we can see that Fritsch kicks more goals than any other Brisbane player.

So he would be the most dangerous fwd when taking the field.

Try again.

And don't give me any nonsense that goal totals is more reflective than goal average over such a large sample size of games.

The prosecution rests

So it’s last 4 years now or 5 years?

Don’t rehash this nonsense mate. You can’t say he kicked more goals when he didn’t. Say what it really is - he averaged more but played less games due to glass ankles

 

[Happy_Neale]

The way you're able to twist any stat to fit your own argument, you should be in politics

And most of what he says is easily disproved with a little research. You might be onto something

 

[danster168]

So it’s last 4 years now or 5 years?

Don’t rehash this nonsense mate. You can’t say he kicked more goals when he didn’t. Say what it really is - he averaged more but played less games due to glass ankles

Keep up mate. I'm responding to Junction Lion who mentioned the 4 year time period.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Keep up mate. I'm responding to Junction Lion who mentioned the 4 year time period.

Okay. My point remains.

 

[danster168]

The good thing is our man does all of that as well as doing his role. Lions hierarchy have backed him in for a 6 year deal. I trust them before a couple of nuffies here. The team love him and he is great for the culture of the club. Dan can have his Fritta. How's the culture a the Dees at the moment danster168

the culture is stuffed. But what's that got to do with literally anything?

 

[danster168]

The way you're able to twist any stat to fit your own argument, you should be in politics

Cold hard facts which I literally provided. 4 years of data.

 

[bindi27]

Last 4 years
Charlie Cameron 2.07 goals per game (212)
Joe Daniher 2.12 goals per game (204)
Fritsch 2.19 goals per game (193 goals)

So considering it's a large sample size of 4 years, we can see that Fritsch kicks more goals than any other Brisbane player.

So he would be the most dangerous fwd when taking the field.

Try again.

And don't give me any nonsense that goal totals is more reflective than goal average over such a large sample size of games.

The prosecution rests.

How about if you make the sample size 5 years instead of 4, Danny?

 

[Junction Lion]

The way you're able to twist any stat to fit your own argument, you should be in politics.

the culture is stuffed. But what's that got to do with literally anything?

I have been telling you for a while. You are happy with goals and stats. We look at culture and where our player fits in the framework. We have a ripper in Cam. You look at stats and goals and whatever suits your narrative. I don't think you have coached or played in too many successful teams the way you carry on.

 

[danster168]

I have been telling you for a while. You are happy with goals and stats. We look at culture and where our player fits in the framework. We have a ripper in Cam. You look at stats and goals and whatever suits your narrative. I don't think you have coached or played in too many successful teams the way you carry on.

lol, what are you banging on about. You've won the same number of flags in the last 5 years as we have. And had twice the number of handouts regarding Father/sons. Stop talking as if you have some sort of secret ingredient to success. I'll tell you the secret ingredient: Ashcroft and Fletcher.

 

[CarterS]

Cold hard facts which I literally provided. 4 years of data.

You said your melbourne bloke kicked more goals than any Brisbane player over x years, proven wrong so you twist it to goals per game. You never said goals per game in your initial claim. Worse spin than a politician. And just like a politician it it seems to be hard coded into your DNA that you can never admit you're wrong about anything.

 

[danster168]

You said your melbourne bloke kicked more goals than any Brisbane player over x years, proven wrong so you twist it to goals per game. You never said goals per game in your initial claim. Worse spin than a politician. And just like a politician it it seems to be hard coded into your DNA that you can never admit you're wrong about anything.

It's implied that more goals means per game. Otherwise you're factoring in injuries which is silly. Unless you use injuries as a way to measure a player on field impact...

How about you focus on the Brisbane fan that said 'who goes out for Fritsch'. Focus your energy on that ridiculous suggestion. When all of the research should be put into 'which Brisbane fwds would stay in the forward line alongside to allow for Fritsch'.

 

[Junction Lion]

lol, what are you banging on about. You've won the same number of flags in the last 5 years as we have. And had twice the number of handouts regarding Father/sons. Stop talking as if you have some sort of secret ingredient to success. I'll tell you the secret ingredient: Ashcroft and Fletcher.

lol, what are you banging on about. You've won the same number of flags in the last 5 years as we have. And had twice the number of handouts regarding Father/sons. Stop talking as if you have some sort of secret ingredient to success. I'll tell you the secret ingredient: Ashcroft and Fletcher.

Haha. You keep dipping in to the past. Look forward from where you are now. No secret ingredient. Players at the Lions buying in to the club for 6 years. Clarry and Trac want out. Easy question to answer. You are losing it brother.