Cameron White

[courtjester]

He's probably the best all-round fielder in Australia at the moment too.

Could have been very good, hard hitting batsman (at #6 in tests), legspinning all-rounder (as the second spinner), gun fielder, and a good captain too, but ended with no confidence in his bowling and his batting has gone downhill a bit. I thought Richie Benaud for a while there, but not anymore.

Would have to put together massive numbers to even get back on the radar now.

 

[dan warna]

He's probably the best all-round fielder in Australia at the moment too.

Could have been very good, hard hitting batsman (at #6 in tests), legspinning all-rounder (as the second spinner), gun fielder, and a good captain too, but ended with no confidence in his bowling and his batting has gone downhill a bit. I thought Richie Benaud for a while there, but not anymore.

Would have to put together massive numbers to even get back on the radar now.

Didn't CA provide advise for him to adjust his batting and bowling about 3 or 4 seasons ago? They did the same for a fair few players.

Poisoning players.

 

[CAS79]

I am not a fan of the old selection panel but sometimes just blaming them for everything. Including the current for slump for Cameron White is just taking things too far.

He was given a shot. His Shield bowling average was not much different to
hauritz or other bowlers and his batting deemed superior.

Some players are shield cricketers through and through. It's a top level to be. White was given his chance and came up short. It's not the selectors fault it's just the way it is.

 

[dan warna]

I am not a fan of the old selection panel but sometimes just blaming them for everything. Including the current for slump for Cameron White is just taking things too far.

He was given a shot. His Shield bowling average was not much different to
hauritz or other bowlers and his batting deemed superior.

Some players are shield cricketers through and through. It's a top level to be. White was given his chance and came up short. It's not the selectors fault it's just the way it is.

That is a reasonable call, however he was played in the side as a bowler and he batted way down the order. He was told to focus on his bowling by CA which was a ridiculous call.

He should have been a no.6 batsman and in that he would have been marginally more useful than North.

that said he's in he top notch of batsmen who aren't good enough for test cricket, and while his FC form has been good, its not compelling (say like khawaja or d.hussey).

I would say Hilditch would have to be the worst senior selector in so far as he rarely even goes to games.

 

[R00StaR]

Batting technique is not up to internationally for tests or ODIs as a batsmen only. You can get away with this type if the can contribute with the ball but without it pressure really builds when runs dry up. He also struggles against the short ball against quality international attacks.

He certainly has ability to make runs at all levels, its just harder to maintain if only a batsmen with questionable technique. It erodes the confidence and so much of cricket is above the shoulders.

Simply if he cant bowl then he's nothing more than a state cricketer for mine. Maybe the odd 20/20 but not captain, the fast short bowling is making it hard for him even in this format.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Just wasn't quite good enough to hold down a Test spot as either batsman or bowler. No shame in that.

A bit like Smith, really.

 

[Dukes Of Hurley]

Would much rather have him in the test side than North, however having him and Haddin in the same team is a risk. Both love to blast it, but can be very inconsistent.

Both he and Smith need to make a stack of runs to come back into contention again

 

[Blue Dimension]

Still think he'll find some form and be playing in our next World Cup team. Good ODI batsman who has lost form but has plenty of time on his side.

Can't see him playing Tests again but stranger things have happened.

 

[theyellowsash]

Didn't CA provide advise for him to adjust his batting and bowling about 3 or 4 seasons ago? They did the same for a fair few players.

Poisoning players.

someone involved with the bushrangers (i think) was on sen this morning and said the exact same thing in an interview. he has been coached to change his technique and manner and so his batting is shot. he wouldnt be the first. siddle for example was a much fuller bowler when he first came onto the scene and i reckon all this short stuff has been coached into him.

also i reckon he was harshly treated by the selectors. he made 44, DNB, 46, 28* in the last 2 tests in that series against india. in the case of the last 2 he came in at a time when we were in a typical aussie collapse and very effectively steadied the ship. Also made an 18* in an earlier test. hardly the worst form for a batter after 4 tests, and had the selectors not been idiotic in selecting him just for his bowling he may have continued that form and become a solid middle order batsmen.

 

[Jstonewall]

Comparisons between Cameron White and Steve Smith are unfair to Steve Smith. Smith built his reputation on excellent batting at shield level. He continues to do fairly well at this level this season. White has simply never done anything at shield level. He is a complete myth. Also Smith has time to turn it around - being 21. White does not.
Technically, I seriously doubt Smith will make it at test level. He has got some work to do. White needs to take up another pursuit. Maybe, get a degree or something.

 

[TheBrownlowMan37]

Comparisons between Cameron White and Steve Smith are unfair to Steve Smith. Smith built his reputation on excellent batting at shield level. He continues to do fairly well at this level this season. White has simply never done anything at shield level. He is a complete myth. Also Smith has time to turn it around - being 21. White does not.
Technically, I seriously doubt Smith will make it at test level. He has got some work to do. White needs to take up another pursuit. Maybe, get a degree or something.

I have never seen you post here before, but please continue to do so.

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

Bowling: Very ordinary...as a leg spinner the fundamental given is you should be able to bowl leg breaks...never have seen him it turn the right way. Only bowls toppies and googles...develop your stock bowl for shock value champ, akin to the doosra for offies.

Batting:Fantastic in the short form...devastating batsman
In the long form technically challanged and will never play in tests.

Fielding: Good, solid...whatever

Having said that he's sooo far in front of Smith its not funny. How this little shit has a lucrative contract is just down right shameful

Probably should of focused on his bowling from the outset, but seems to lack confidence for some reason. Good cricket brain and potential T-20 captain, that is all

 

[Jstonewall]

Fantastic in short term? - Nah, not even good;
Better than Smith? - How?

You sound like the kind of guy who might be able to explain where Ian Harvey got his nickname 'Freak' - seriously, where does Victoria find these guys?

 

[eddiesmith]

Yay, another NSW troll

 

[MisterMarcus]

Yay, another NSW troll

Reading a few of his old posts, he looks like a Victorian pretending to be a NSW troll. Doing a very funny job of it too I must say!

Nobody would come to an AFL thread for 6 months just to bag Victorian cricket.....

 

[TheBrownlowMan37]

Reading a few of his old posts, he looks like a Victorian pretending to be a NSW troll. Doing a very funny job of it too I must say!

Nobody would come to an AFL thread for 6 months just to bag Victorian cricket.....

Why not? eddiesmith has been bagging NSW for 7 years.

 

[dan warna]

I think you'll find his FC form for the past few years has been on or around 50.

He certainly didn't have the boom start that smith had, but on recent form, of the past 5 or 6 years, White has been about 50 with the bat.

odi average about 35 with a SR in the 80s I think?

 

[peternorth]

made some score in district cricket apparently.

foxsports didnt have a report on it

 

[dan warna]

made some score in district cricket apparently.

foxsports didnt have a report on it

cool, talented player but his form has been very ordinary this season.

I do hope he lifts as at the moment the vics are struggling to get into contention for the shield final and are already out of the 50 over race.

 

[jefffff34]

With some much-needed runs and a personal record looming, Cameron White now has his sights on leading Victoria into the Sheffield Shield final.
White, whose batting form has been below-par all summer, scored 147 for his Melbourne club side Richmond against Prahran on Saturday.
White overcame a bizarre start to the match, in which play started on a pitch wrongly measured at two metres longer than it should have been, to address the issues which have plagued his season.
The 28-year-old's national contract would appear in jeopardy after his difficult summer and losing the Australian Twenty20 captaincy.
But White's timely return to form comes as he prepares to break Bill Lawry's long-standing record for captaining Victoria on the most occasions in the Bushrangers' Shield clash with South Australia starting
on Monday at the MCG.
"It was just great to spend some time in the middle and the game obviously starts tomorrow, so it was good practice," White said on Sunday ahead of his 57th first-class match leading Victoria.
"For whatever reason yesterday, it seemed to work out.
"It was nice to build an innings, and it just reminds you that you can still do it."
Victoria is fourth on the Shield ladder.
But a big win against the Redbacks will give the Bushrangers huge momentum and Shield final destiny in their own hands going into the next match against second-placed Western Australia.
"We're sitting not too far away in the Shield competition, so this is a big game and off to Perth after that, so really our next two games will determine whether we get into the final," he said.
"It makes this game (against the Redbacks) even more crucial.
"We've got two more of our games at home too, so if we can win both of those, we'll be pretty close to a Shield final berth."
The Bushrangers are strengthened with the return of national representatives Peter Siddle and Aaron Finch.
Siddle returns from Test duties, while Finch is back after playing for Australia's Twenty20 side in the series against India.
The Vics beat bottom side South Australia by 186 runs in their Shield match in Adelaide last week, further building their confidence.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-12/white-finds-form-as-record-looms/3825360/?site=melbourne

 

[Natho]

His bowling is far below average he bowls long hops. No idea how he was our test spinner. His batting struggles. He is a slogger.

 

[The Passenger]

Comparisons between Cameron White and Steve Smith are unfair to Steve Smith. Smith built his reputation on excellent batting at shield level. He continues to do fairly well at this level this season. White has simply never done anything at shield level. He is a complete myth. Also Smith has time to turn it around - being 21. White does not.
Technically, I seriously doubt Smith will make it at test level. He has got some work to do. White needs to take up another pursuit. Maybe, get a degree or something.

that's not quite right. He was one of the most improved batsmen in australia from 2007 through to 2010.

07/08 - 748 runs at 49.86
08/09 - 462 runs at 57.75
09/10 - 329 runs at 47.00

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/11/11866/f_Batting_by_Season.html

they include all first class games, so any australia a games he would've played which i can't be arsed filtering out cause it's too much effort.

those were good returns but limited in size due to his involvement in the ODI team.

he tightened his technique up a lot in those years and was rewarded with the runs. was far too reckless prior.

unfortunately since the start of the 2010 season he has hardly been able to score a run, and is now probably lucky to even be in the victorian team.

it was very strange he got picked as a spinner when in the season prior he had taken only 6 wickets at about 50 runs a wicket.

i don't know why he's bowling fell away. his first couple of seasons were very good. his arm was too perpindicular to the ground which is why he was never a big turner of the ball but always got good bounce. a lot of anilk kumble about him.

i don't think anyone really knows what happened to him in 2004/05 but he never recovered.

 

[peternorth]

mo matthews is a big wrap for him, and always wanted him to get more round arm to promote healthy side spin. said white's 12 oclock action wasnt "groovy man"

 

[MisterMarcus]

22* so far and building a 60 run partership after coming in at 2/5

Not much but at least he's got a start.

EDIT: Bleh, out now for 31.

 

[The Passenger]

yeah you need a niec 45 degree angle to the ground. warney was pretty much spot on

not the greatest photo, but the best i could find. video's of him (and there are plenty) show it better.

for any kids watching. that's what you need to practise. even practice at the after match drinks.

^^ perfect 45 degree angle.