Can anyone explain to me...

[scottywiper]

How the boundary umpire makes a decision...gets ignored by the field umpire in rather unprecedented fashion...and then doesn't even bother to pursue the matter with the field umpire?
Or were the two of them still tired from holding up the WC banner?

 

[Twinkletoes]

As Billy Brownless would say, "flabberbasted"! Either a field umpire over ruled the boundary ump (unlikely) or none of the three saw him raise his hand and blow his whistle to signal out of bounds and the boundary ump was too softcockish to run onfield blowing his whistle like a madman to ensure his decision was recognised (likely).

 

[abby]

As Billy Brownless would say, "flabberbasted"! Either a field umpire over ruled the boundary ump (unlikely) or none of the three saw him raise his hand and blow his whistle to signal out of bounds and the boundary ump was too softcockish to run onfield blowing his whistle like a madman to ensure his decision was recognised (likely).

Yeah defs the later. Dunstall mentioned he should have stood up and made a big deal about it the boundary umpire instead of just going along with it

 

[nicko74]

WC at Subiaco. Nuff said

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I was truly astonished.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Honestly by that point we were certain things to win so I couldn't have cared less.

 

[Dirty_11]

Was an absolute disgrace and lucky it didn't cost us a goal.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

They're AFL-employed umpires. They were born to be incompetent.

 

[Arden]

Boooooooooooooo

 

[ansonholt]

Guys, I'm a field umpire at local footy level (don't worry LCynic, I haven't taken the slightest offence at your last comment ) and I can tell it's the Field umpire's call. The boundary did all he could, which was to whistle and signal "touched out of bounds" by tapping his raised arm. In the end, the field umpire can choose to accept the boundary's call and tell him to throw it in or he can overrule if he thinks otherwise. The boundary does not and should not, have the right to run on the field and tell the field umpire he's wrong. I know, I've was a boundary umpire before moving to field.

In this instance, the boundary was clearly in the best spot, made the correct call and was ignored by the field umpire. Bad and totally wrong by the fieldie. Should get a talking to after the game.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

Guys, I'm a field umpire at local footy level (don't worry LCynic, I haven't taken the slightest offence at your last comment ) and I can tell it's the Field umpire's call. The boundary did all he could, which was to whistle and signal "touched out of bounds" by tapping his raised arm. In the end, the field umpire can choose to accept the boundary's call and tell him to throw it in or he can overrule if he thinks otherwise. The boundary does not and should not, have the right to run on the field and tell the field umpire he's wrong. I know, I've was a boundary umpire before moving to field.

In this instance, the boundary was clearly in the best spot, made the correct call and was ignored by the field umpire. Bad and totally wrong by the fieldie. Should get a talking to after the game.

Hooray. I might need to edit my post still if the description still applies, though. :shifty eyes:

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Personality flaw.

He didnt have the assertiveness to tell the field umpire it was juggled 3 metres over the line and I called it out.

 

[Arthur Cloke]

How the boundary umpire makes a decision...gets ignored by the field umpire in rather unprecedented fashion...and then doesn't even bother to pursue the matter with the field umpire?
Or were the two of them still tired from holding up the WC banner?

Nah mate. I was with u at half time I think, and as im sure u noticed, i'd had a few sherberts by then. Always love watching footy in Perth - full-strength cans at $6.50 a pop - u cant beat it. But yeah, that boundary umpire will find himself up at Broome next weeend kicking the dew off the ground in the VFL.

 

[Mav]

Guys, I'm a field umpire at local footy level (don't worry LCynic, I haven't taken the slightest offence at your last comment ) and I can tell it's the Field umpire's call. The boundary did all he could, which was to whistle and signal "touched out of bounds" by tapping his raised arm. In the end, the field umpire can choose to accept the boundary's call and tell him to throw it in or he can overrule if he thinks otherwise. The boundary does not and should not, have the right to run on the field and tell the field umpire he's wrong. I know, I've was a boundary umpire before moving to field.

In this instance, the boundary was clearly in the best spot, made the correct call and was ignored by the field umpire. Bad and totally wrong by the fieldie. Should get a talking to after the game.

Really? When I used to umpire, which was some time ago, we were taught that the boundary ump should chase the field umpire and make it know that the ball went out. The field ump was then obliged to take the ball back to where it went out.

 

[Quivorir]

Guys, I'm a field umpire at local footy level (don't worry LCynic, I haven't taken the slightest offence at your last comment ) and I can tell it's the Field umpire's call. The boundary did all he could, which was to whistle and signal "touched out of bounds" by tapping his raised arm. In the end, the field umpire can choose to accept the boundary's call and tell him to throw it in or he can overrule if he thinks otherwise. The boundary does not and should not, have the right to run on the field and tell the field umpire he's wrong. I know, I've was a boundary umpire before moving to field.

In this instance, the boundary was clearly in the best spot, made the correct call and was ignored by the field umpire. Bad and totally wrong by the fieldie. Should get a talking to after the game.

Bullshit.

The field umpire cant just decide "you know what? **** you, that wasn't out, play on". The boundry umpires only job is to say its out or not and throw it in.

 

[Lavy_Panther]

Boundary umpire completely bottled it.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

This one was a bad error by both umpires (boundary not being assertive enough, field umpire for over-ruling). However, I thought the umpiring was consistently good all night. They didn't pay anything soft, and the fact we took the crowd out of the game early meant the "crowd free kicks" weren't a factor.

 

[scooby1279]

what about Nic Nat playing on over the boundary? The rule is you are over the boundary line and umpire calls play on you need to run in a straight line over the man on the mark however Nic Nat ran around the mark whilst being over the boundary.

 

[JD-Roo]

Guys, I'm a field umpire at local footy level (don't worry LCynic, I haven't taken the slightest offence at your last comment ) and I can tell it's the Field umpire's call. The boundary did all he could, which was to whistle and signal "touched out of bounds" by tapping his raised arm. In the end, the field umpire can choose to accept the boundary's call and tell him to throw it in or he can overrule if he thinks otherwise. The boundary does not and should not, have the right to run on the field and tell the field umpire he's wrong. I know, I've was a boundary umpire before moving to field.

In this instance, the boundary was clearly in the best spot, made the correct call and was ignored by the field umpire. Bad and totally wrong by the fieldie. Should get a talking to after the game.

Bollocks. Having boundary umpired myself for years it's easy in this case to just keep blowing the whistle and letting the field ump know the correct decision, even running into the field of play if need be.

I've over-ruled field umps and goal umps in the past - technically unable to in the rules - but everyone, even the players, knew the right decisiones were made.

Just a weak-as-piss boundary ump - for once not the field umps fault.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

what about Nic Nat playing on over the boundary? The rule is you are over the boundary line and umpire calls play on you need to run in a straight line over the man on the mark however Nic Nat ran around the mark whilst being over the boundary.

Whilst I agree that technically it is out of bounds, I believe the rule is wrong. We shouldn't cut out the ability of players to do what NicNat did.

Of course, I would have been nowhere near as generous in my assessment if we lost by less than a kick ...

 

[Twinkletoes]

NicNat's play on from beyond the boundary is allowed as long as he continues in the one direction, which he did. Had he taken two steps to his right to snap but instead changed his mind and straightened up to drop punt the whistle would've blown for out of bounds. Although seeing the other stuff up occur there's no guarantee the field umpires would've taken any notice anyway.


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[Maddox]

Boundary umpire really needed to be more assertive. Didn't mean much in this game but you wouldn't want something like that occuring in the dying seconds of a Grand Final

 

[ansonholt]

Three of you disagreed with me in this thread but you all missed the point. The field umpire decided it was a mark before it crossed the line.... clearly the wrong call.

The boundary umpire cannot determine if the ball was marked before the line or not. That is the field umpire's call. Obviously he got it wrong. Whether the boundary thought it was a mark or not before the ball went over is irrelevant.

 

[Lavy_Panther]

Three of you disagreed with me in this thread but you all missed the point. The field umpire decided it was a mark before it crossed the line.... clearly the wrong call.

The boundary umpire cannot determine if the ball was marked before the line or not. That is the field umpire's call. Obviously he got it wrong. Whether the boundary thought it was a mark or not before the ball went over is irrelevant.

No, this isn't correct.

Where a player, attempting to mark the ball, first touches the ball inside the boundary line in a manner that may be paid as a mark, but then juggles it over the line, ending up outside the boundary, the boundary umpire should, after a brief delay (allowing time for the field umpire to pay a mark), indicate OOB (touched) and then go to the field umpire and question which attempt at the mark the field umpire paid as being the mark.

http://www.aflcommunityclub.com.au/...n/Boundary/Boundary_Umpire_-_3_Ump_System.pdf

 

[LT Smash]

what about Nic Nat playing on over the boundary? The rule is you are over the boundary line and umpire calls play on you need to run in a straight line over the man on the mark however Nic Nat ran around the mark whilst being over the boundary.

Yep, called this in an earlier thread. The field umpire called play on after he took two steps off his line and he was still 3 metres outside the field of play. So he called play on and Nic Nat was out of bounds. Clearly should have been a throw in.

NicNat's play on from beyond the boundary is allowed as long as he continues in the one direction, which he did. Had he taken two steps to his right to snap but instead changed his mind and straightened up to drop punt the whistle would've blown for out of bounds. Although seeing the other stuff up occur there's no guarantee the field umpires would've taken any notice anyway.

Yeah nah, I've watched the replay, slowed it down to freeze frame exactly when the umpire called play on. It wasn't for taking too long as he never got the hurry along. It was called play on because he took two steps to his right. It's irrelevant that he may or may not change direction. The second he moves off the line to open up the angle, he's played on.