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Carlton 2025 = Richmond 2016?

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Sam McClure made this comparison recently.. and he has a good point. In 2016.. everyone was saying we were no good, the list had peaked, sack Hardwick and trade anyone with currency for picks! Our football department even admitted the aim was to build a list to play finals, rather than aim to build a premiership list.. because according to them, our supporters didn't have the patience to sit through the rebuild that was required.. in order to build a premiership list!

Right now.. Carlton are in a similar boat, with supporters threatening to spill the board.. and Voss under pressure similar to that of Hardwick this time in 2016. Voss and Hardwick were both ruthless, hard nosed footballers.. who know what it takes to win premierships, and have been on the receiving end of similar criticisms as coaches.. such as lack of tactical nous, and the need for better assistant coaches!

The criticisms of Carlton's list.. are remarkably similar to the ones we were receiving this time in 2016.. fantastic top end talent with the rest of the list full of plodders, and Cotchin was slammed for lacking a ruthless edge as captain. Key forwards at Carlton in Curnow and McKay.. are routinely criticised for going missing in big games, while our key forwards in Riewoldt and Vickery.. were criticised for the exact same thing! Who can forget the term 'Junk Time Jack' that was used by opposition supporters.

Carlton don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.. they need to keep Voss and surround him with better assistant coaches, while being brave at the trade table.. and letting a big name or two go in order to free up cap space. We did this by letting go of Deledio and Vickery.. and look at how that turned out.

Carlton have Graham Wright arriving soon.. and we had Neale Balme arrive at the end of 2016. Wright and Balme both have fantastic track records of overseeing success.. and after seeing what Balme did with us, I'm confident we'll see Wright do great things at Carlton!

Do you agree that Carlton are a good chance to turn it around in 2026.. similar to how we turned it around in 2017??
 

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As if your last thread wasn't stupid enough, you had to go one better.

 
Sam McClure made this comparison recently.. and he has a good point. In 2016.. everyone was saying we were no good, the list had peaked, sack Hardwick and trade anyone with currency for picks! Our football department even admitted the aim was to build a list to play finals, rather than aim to build a premiership list.. because according to them, our supporters didn't have the patience to sit through the rebuild that was required.. in order to build a premiership list!

Right now.. Carlton are in a similar boat, with supporters threatening to spill the board.. and Voss under pressure similar to that of Hardwick this time in 2016. Voss and Hardwick were both ruthless, hard nosed footballers.. who know what it takes to win premierships, and have been on the receiving end of similar criticisms as coaches.. such as lack of tactical nous, and the need for better assistant coaches!

The criticisms of Carlton's list.. are remarkably similar to the ones we were receiving this time in 2016.. fantastic top end talent with the rest of the list full of plodders, and Cotchin was slammed for lacking a ruthless edge as captain. Key forwards at Carlton in Curnow and McKay.. are routinely criticised for going missing in big games, while our key forwards in Riewoldt and Vickery.. were criticised for the exact same thing! Who can forget the term 'Junk Time Jack' that was used by opposition supporters.

Carlton don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.. they need to keep Voss and surround him with better assistant coaches, while being brave at the trade table.. and letting a big name or two go in order to free up cap space. We did this by letting go of Deledio and Vickery.. and look at how that turned out.

Carlton have Graham Wright arriving soon.. and we had Neale Balme arrive at the end of 2016. Wright and Balme both have fantastic track records of overseeing success.. and after seeing what Balme did with us, I'm confident we'll see Wright do great things at Carlton!

Do you agree that Carlton are a good chance to turn it around in 2026.. similar to how we turned it around in 2017??
They need to show faith on Vossy, I just know they can make it if they give him a 3 year extension.
 
Carlton 2025 = Carlton 2024 = Carlton 2023 = Carlton 2022 = Carlton 2021 = Carlton 2020
 
Sam McClure made this comparison recently.. and he has a good point. In 2016.. everyone was saying we were no good, the list had peaked, sack Hardwick and trade anyone with currency for picks! Our football department even admitted the aim was to build a list to play finals, rather than aim to build a premiership list.. because according to them, our supporters didn't have the patience to sit through the rebuild that was required.. in order to build a premiership list!

Right now.. Carlton are in a similar boat, with supporters threatening to spill the board.. and Voss under pressure similar to that of Hardwick this time in 2016. Voss and Hardwick were both ruthless, hard nosed footballers.. who know what it takes to win premierships, and have been on the receiving end of similar criticisms as coaches.. such as lack of tactical nous, and the need for better assistant coaches!

The criticisms of Carlton's list.. are remarkably similar to the ones we were receiving this time in 2016.. fantastic top end talent with the rest of the list full of plodders, and Cotchin was slammed for lacking a ruthless edge as captain. Key forwards at Carlton in Curnow and McKay.. are routinely criticised for going missing in big games, while our key forwards in Riewoldt and Vickery.. were criticised for the exact same thing! Who can forget the term 'Junk Time Jack' that was used by opposition supporters.

Carlton don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.. they need to keep Voss and surround him with better assistant coaches, while being brave at the trade table.. and letting a big name or two go in order to free up cap space. We did this by letting go of Deledio and Vickery.. and look at how that turned out.

Carlton have Graham Wright arriving soon.. and we had Neale Balme arrive at the end of 2016. Wright and Balme both have fantastic track records of overseeing success.. and after seeing what Balme did with us, I'm confident we'll see Wright do great things at Carlton!

Do you agree that Carlton are a good chance to turn it around in 2026.. similar to how we turned it around in 2017??

Yep Carlton need to use their first round pick and get a Prestia type.. oh wait.
 
And here we have a classic example as to why Chief needs to introduce a “thread posting license”.
Post a list of acceptable thread topics for while I am away until Friday.

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Carlton 2025 = Fitzroy 1995?
 
OP nearly tricked me into thinking this was a thread about Carlton, and not a thread about how awesome Richmond were in turning around their poor 2016 and winning the flag in 2017.

Well played OP, you nearly got me !

Also, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND, RICHMOND.
 

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I agree, CFC need to show faith and extend Voss contract for another four years.
BACK HIM!!!
Disagree.
The best thing they can do is get Bruce Matheson and the Pratts back on the Board and running the show.

Throw as much money as they can at a coach with a history of success - Simpson, Horse, Clarkson, Pagan with their own lieutenants.

Give them licence to go balls in to piss away draft picks for name players nearing their use by that could improve them.

The players and fans deserve for them to go all in for one last tilt before the inevitable rebuild.
 
Disagree.
The best thing they can do is get Bruce Matheson and the Pratts back on the Board and running the show.

Throw as much money as they can at a coach with a history of success - Simpson, Horse, Clarkson, Pagan with their own lieutenants.

Give them licence to go balls in to piss away draft picks for name players nearing their use by that could improve them.

The players and fans deserve for them to go all in for one last tilt before the inevitable rebuild.
Girl Why Dont We Have Both GIF
 
Justin Murphy played for these 2 as well as the Dons. He endorses this thread.
 

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