As I said, we are thin
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List Mgmt. Carlton's 2018 Draft Thread (cont. in Part 2)
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As I said, we are thin
Shifter if forced to pick at one has it at Max King or Sam Walsh.
Except Pickett.
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This is how I see it. Most club recruiters would be interested in the King twins, who are some of the best key position prospects in recent years. Factoring in list needs though, and the likely additions of Goddard and BSOS as defenders, it makes little sense to take either should we manage to procure another top pick.
Interesting to see how everything pans out if the 1 for 3+6 were to transpire.
If we take Rankine at 3 are St Kilda really set on either King? I could just as easily see them being keen on Rozee, and despite their list needs might see Smith as too good to pass up. Keeping in mind Smith's outside game is still reasonably sound, and he's got X-factor.
Do we then start to consider Caldwell? Or even RCD?
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Are we really though?
Are we thin in numbers or quality?
We can have plenty of numbers but have little quality and I'm not sure that really serves a bigger purpose.
Right now, Macreadie is never far away from a recall and that may not be such a bad thing, as it keeps him hungry.
I don't really care what happens at the NB's as we can bring in players to cover there, but I don't mind having this apparent lack of KPD's right now.
Actually, I see it as a positive.
Harker, you and I have done this to death
Weitering, Macreadie, Jones as our only TRUE KPDs options
2 injuries in that area and we have to rely on 3rd tall options
Yes we are. The fact we have made yet another 12 list changes this year highlights that SOS still believes that there's no shortage of junk within our ranks.
I continue to find it amazing how quick people are to forget we finished on the bottom with 2 wins and a lowly percentage of just 59.
But that's akin to saying should Rance and Astbury go down......what now?
We take these chances all across the board, so what makes key position back posts any more important than for any other posts?
How many KPD's is enough?
How many KPF's is enough?
Back flankers, third back talls, inside mids, outside mids, small backs, small forwards, rucks etc.
Give me a template and we can talk, but remember; We only have 44 genuine spots to fill.
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Backlines win Premierships, McGovern will be given his marching orders down there if we do have any injuries....might be a blessing in disguise
You've said a lot but answered nothing?
Your answer to my questions aren't compatible.
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Teams win premierships.
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Then argue! Show us.
My point is we are still thin all over the park.
Generally a sound observation, the Hawks 3 peat was an example of forward fire power and solid unremarkable defence.
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In recent times
Geelong 2000s defence > forward line ( by a country mile)
Brisbane defence > forward line ( yes they were unstoppable all over still rate their defence better than their forward line)
Sydney 2005 defence > forward line
West Coast 90s sides defence > forward line
Cartons 90s side Defence to forward line (even with sticks)
Richmond defence > forward line
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Thats been the exception definetely possibly Essendon as well
Just saw the Sam Walsh Tomorrow Heroes thingie on the AFL website. Yep, I’ll take him.
(Blakey’s character reference was especially persuasive, if I needed persuading, which I don’t).
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You’re right, I was quick to forget it. I’ve wiped most of the year from my memory, except for beating * and Dow’s goal against GC. As far as I’m concerned they were the only two events to occur.
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So you’ve accounted for about 7 of the last 28 premierships... not statistically significant really to make a definitive statement either way is it
. I get your point. Don’t agree but don’t need to discuss it to death.
Reid and Moore out injured, then another senior body in Dunn. Come GF they get exposed by Kennedy & Vardy/Lycett, while Darling chimes in as a 3rd tall. I don't want to get by, I want a balanced list
Rance and Astbury go down, they have Miller 195, Balta 194, Grimes 193, Moore 193, Broad 192, Garthwaite 192, many that can play both ends of the ground. You can manipulate a forwardline, but you can't manipulate height, in tall defenders if you have injuries
McGovern is another 3rd tall. Let's say Weitering and Jones are injured, as they were this year. That would leave us Macreadie 196, Marchbank 193, Plowman 191 or McGovern 191. Do you think they would be undersized, height and strength wise against a few forward lines
- Dixon, Westoff, Lycett/Ryder, Watts
- Daniher, Stewart, Hooker
- Kennedy, Vardy, Hickey/Nic Nat
- Hawkins, Stanley/Abbott, Ratugolea/Buzza
Forget the names and quality, but losing ASOS and Rowe as depth, needs to be replaced by at least 1 player and not BSOS, who is a replacement for JGM
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