List Mgmt. Carlton's 2020 Draft Thread

[Jeremias]

Will you strip naked

If you ask nicely.

 

[GT619]

If you ask nicely.

Please

 

[smashbox gill]

I don’t understand the inside mid pick (atleast not a 18yo one), I woulda thought we had more pressing needs ie small forward, ruck, key defender

Poulter looks good but Pedlar not sure

 

[Eiffel 65]

I don’t understand the inside mid pick (atleast not a 18yo one), I woulda thought we had more pressing needs ie small forward, ruck, key defender

There will be quite a few small forwards available at the back end of the draft. No need to go early.

The club keeps mentioning they're looking for a KPD. That's what I'm most curious about because the better ones are either going very early or are academy locked.

 

[smashbox gill]

There will be quite a few small forwards available at the back end of the draft. No need to go early.

The club keeps mentioning they're looking for a KPD. That's what I'm most curious about because the better ones are either going very early or are academy locked.

I would just hate to miss out on Winder or Shannon Neale type by going a slow inside mid

 

[Blue__Balls]

Will you strip naked

What makes you think Jez isn't already starkers?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

There will be quite a few small forwards available at the back end of the draft. No need to go early.

The club keeps mentioning they're looking for a KPD. That's what I'm most curious about because the better ones are either going very early or are academy locked.

I reckon plan A is to move up for Cox/Reid with a future pick if available. Plan B is to bid on the Essendon boys and plan C failing that is to take McDonald as a DFA.

Wouldn’t mind taking a developing tall kid and some back up in McDonald if there’s nothing else we like.

 

[Eiffel 65]

I would just hate to miss out on Winder or Shannon Neale type by going a slow inside mid

They're my two preferences at 31 and 38 should they get that far

I don't mind what the club does, just as long as they're not pulling the trigger one of the mature age prospects we're linked to at 31 or trading a future 1st or 2nd to get back into the earlier stages of this draft.

It's going to be an interesting night

 

[La Dispute]

Kind of hope it's the other way around. Pedlar would be a better fit, however, he appears to have a lot of interest from the mid teens to mid 20's.

Doesn't sound like Poulter is much chance of going in the first round. Early to mid second seems to be his range at the moment, however, things can change quickly depending on how things play out on the night.

Both appeal, but I find it a little unusual how easily we’re leaking info this year? Last year the club was pretty tight lipped about who we were keen on, and pretty much just identified 4-5 in our range, one of whom was Kemp who we rightly backed to slip.

Sounds like our recruiting team has spent a hell of a lot of time sounding out South Australian prospects.

 

[smashbox gill]

They're my two preferences at 31 and 38 should they get that far

I don't mind what the club does, just as long as they're not pulling the trigger one of the mature age prospects we're linked to at 31 or trading a future 1st or 2nd to get back into the earlier stages of this draft.

It's going to be an interesting night

I just really want Winder. Every couple of drafts there’s an exciting young indigenous player thst gets picked up late and they come good yet we are never the ones who pick them - Ryan, Cameron, Stengel etc

 

[Eiffel 65]

Both appeal, but I find it a little unusual how easily we’re leaking info this year? Last year the club was pretty tight lipped about who we were keen on, and pretty much just identified 4-5 in our range, one of whom was Kemp who we rightly backed to slip.

Sounds like our recruiting team has spent a hell of a lot of time sounding out South Australian prospects.

I reckon Carlton and Kemp was the worst kept secret in history. LOL.

I guess we'll know tomorrow night whether everything is smoke and mirrors or our targets are known to all.

Yea, sounds like we're recruiting from SA this year.

 

[LanceRomance]

South Australian inside mid is on top of our list.. tough nut

Ollie wines?

 

[Blue__Balls]

Both appeal, but I find it a little unusual how easily we’re leaking info this year? Last year the club was pretty tight lipped about who we were keen on, and pretty much just identified 4-5 in our range, one of whom was Kemp who we rightly backed to slip.

Sounds like our recruiting team has spent a hell of a lot of time sounding out South Australian prospects.

The SA interest makes sense - those players have much more exposed form to judge them on compared to the VIC pool.

 

[Eiffel 65]

The SA interest makes sense - those players have much more exposed form to judge them on compared to the VIC pool.

It does, but it would also be cool to take a Victorian with our 3rd pick in the draft.

Lets gamble

 

[La Dispute]

I reckon Carlton and Kemp was the worst kept secret in history. LOL.

I guess we'll know tomorrow night whether everything is smoke and mirrors or our targets are known to all.

Yea, sounds like we're recruiting from SA this year.

It was on draft night as we traded the pick but we were told we were keen on all of Serong, Stephens and Young too - the latter we were considering trading up for.

 

[Sheephead]

With what has been said about Poulter being our target, I can see a Stocker-esque trade coming up with Richmond. Pick @17 and their 2021 1st for our 2021 1st. They want nothing to do with this draft other than Rioli. (Well not the early stages anyway).

Also, * met with Rioli today and are expected to bid on him.

Someone answer me this please.
If * do bid on Rioli and it’s with their 3rd pick, say @9, RICH then go on the clock to match. - could they then trade @17 for our 2 2nds at that time and then match? They also have a 2nd. What kind of time frame is there to match.

 

[La Dispute]

The SA interest makes sense - those players have much more exposed form to judge them on compared to the VIC pool.

Agreed, but it’s a interesting anomaly.

Wonder what percentage of interstate players - in particular state league players - will be taken this year in comparison?

Makes far more sense locking in a best performed state leaguer than gambling on a TAC prospect with a couple of nice cameos in their 17th year.

 

[bmaurizio]

Pedlar me thinks

Yup l agree Pedlar it is an absolute beast inside mid, can take a grab too.
I think Mitch all over again.

 

[La Dispute]

With what has been said about Poulter being our target, I can see a Stocker-esque trade coming up with Richmond. Pick @17 and their 2021 1st for our 2021 1st. They want nothing to do with this draft other than Rioli. (Well not the early stages anyway).

Also, * met with Rioli today and are expected to bid on him.

Someone answer me this please.
If * do bid on Rioli and it’s with their 3rd pick, say @9, RICH then go on the clock to match. - could they then trade @17 for our 2 2nds at that time and then match? They also have a 2nd. What kind of time frame is there to match.

Would be entertaining, but they’re probably the last club we’d want to do that trade with. Haven’t finished their premiership run yet, and we’d probably need an early first to get a decent FA in next year, assuming both GWS and Essendon match for Kelly and Merrett (assuming they leave).

Possibly worth it for Cox or Reid though.

 

[BigBreakfast]

With what has been said about Poulter being our target, I can see a Stocker-esque trade coming up with Richmond. Pick @17 and their 2021 1st for our 2021 1st. They want nothing to do with this draft other than Rioli. (Well not the early stages anyway).

Also, * met with Rioli today and are expected to bid on him.

Someone answer me this please.
If * do bid on Rioli and it’s with their 3rd pick, say @9, RICH then go on the clock to match. - could they then trade @17 for our 2 2nds at that time and then match? They also have a 2nd. What kind of time frame is there to match.

Not sure a bid comes that early, * fans would lynch the recruiters. There are better prospects that * needs more. I think there will be an earlier bid than expected for Rioli, probably in the early 20s.

 

[Eiffel 65]

It was on draft night as we traded the pick but we were told we were keen on all of Serong, Stephens and Young too - the latter we were considering trading up for.

Fair point.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Would be entertaining, but they’re probably the last club we’d want to do that trade with. Haven’t finished their premiership run yet, and we’d probably need an early first to get a decent FA in next year, assuming both GWS and Essendon match for Kelly and Merrett (assuming they leave).

Possibly worth it for Cox or Reid though.

Our pick should be a pick outside the top 10 and hopefully closer to 14-16. I’d absolutely do that deal and even more so if Cox or Reid were still available.

If we don’t improve next year at all and they win the flag again it’s 7 for 17+18, which isn’t horrible. Best case scenario, “what if we finish above them?”, as the great SOS once said.

 

[THE_GUN]

With what has been said about Poulter being our target, I can see a Stocker-esque trade coming up with Richmond. Pick @17 and their 2021 1st for our 2021 1st. They want nothing to do with this draft other than Rioli. (Well not the early stages anyway).

Also, * met with Rioli today and are expected to bid on him.

Someone answer me this please.
If * do bid on Rioli and it’s with their 3rd pick, say @9, RICH then go on the clock to match. - could they then trade @17 for our 2 2nds at that time and then match? They also have a 2nd. What kind of time frame is there to match.

These days for the blues are long gone Sheephead , Carlton were seen as a basket case and a top 3 pick was guaranteed and clubs did these picks but not any more. Richmond have StKilda'a pick #17 and probably a 2021 pick that could be anywhere from 14-18 whilst Carlton should make finals next year with the new assets you guys have and anything can happen so if i was assessing your finishing position i would at #12-#13 range

Your not getting 2 picks #17 + #15-#18 for #12


Richmond wont match a bid for Rioli at a bid thats below #30

 

[Eiffel 65]

Agreed, but it’s a interesting anomaly.

Wonder what percentage of interstate players - in particular state league players - will be taken this year in comparison?

Makes far more sense locking in a best performed state leaguer than gambling on a TAC prospect with a couple of nice cameos in their 17th year.

Maybe, but if we don't see them as best 22 come round 1, I'd much prefer taking a punt on a VIC kid. Could find gold late.

I get that some will say we've got enough kids, but with our trade targets added over the past couple of seasons, we're actually not as young as what people think. Every year that passes, mature age recruits become less of a need for us.

A potential starting 22 for round 1, 2021:

plowman (26) weitering (23) newman (27)
docherty (27) jones (29) saad (26) (willo/marchy/sps between 22-24 y.o.)

walsh (20) setterfield (22) newnes (27)
tdk (21) cripps (25) williams (26) (ed 31, murphy 33)

martin (25) mcgovern (26) gibbons (25)
fisher (22) mckay (23) casboult (30) (betts 34, jsos 23)

They're our players ages today. +1 year to everyone next season.

Players like Dow, Stocker, O'brien, Kemp, Philp, Cuningham may work their way in, but unlikely to all play at once.

That list of players above isn't young anymore, hence why I don't see much of a need for mature age recruits anymore.

 

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