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Doodlesweaver · Dec 19, 2015

thorne89 said:
Marsh fell victim to it last time he was dropped, would be stiff to miss out for Boxing Day.

Last time he was dropped was because he was covering for injured, then fit Shane Watson, wasn't it?

Edit:I forgot about him playing one test in the test of horror in England but then that was a bit of a minor shambles that tour regards selection.

Carbine Chaos · Dec 19, 2015

Doodlesweaver said:
Last time he was dropped was because he was covering for injured, then fit Shane Watson, wasn't it?

Edit:I forgot about him playing one test in the test of horror in England but then that was a bit of a minor shambles that tour regards selection.

At the end of the day this is a good selection issue to have (which has been rare to say for our batting stocks). I think we need to factor into our decision how flat the wickets have been. The way I see it Marsh made the hard runs in Adelaide to win us the Test whereas since the pancake first Test of the summer Burns has been poor. That swings the pendulum Marsh's way for me.

big_e · Dec 20, 2015

J Peterman said:
Burns has shown some worrying technical deficiencies, likely to be further exposed on seaming decks if he is persisted with, whilst S.Marsh has shown increased surety in a middle order role.

Call me old-fashioned but I'm not that fussed whether a player has technical deficiencies or not - it should simply come down to runs.

JackOutback · Dec 20, 2015

big_e said:
Call me old-fashioned but I'm not that fussed whether a player has technical deficiencies or not - it should simply come down to runs.

Take out the first Test and Burns is also struggling for runs.

Kram · Dec 20, 2015

big_e said:
Call me old-fashioned but I'm not that fussed whether a player has technical deficiencies or not - it should simply come down to runs.

Well Marsh has been scoring more recently so I guess he's in.

Bucking Beads · Dec 20, 2015

JackOutback said:
Take out the first Test and Burns is also struggling for runs.

So if we take 180 odd of Marsh he has done **** all as well.

Kram · Dec 20, 2015

That 49 to win us the game in tough conditions!

Bucking Beads · Dec 20, 2015

Kram81 said:
That 49 to win us the game in tough conditions!

Well one knock amongst a career of utter shit.

Hellgood · Dec 20, 2015

Bucking Beads said:
Well one knock amongst a career of utter shit.

Terrible post.

Yes, his test career has had it's shit periods but they've been interspersed with innings of high class and quality. As an ODI batsman, he stacks up as one of our best as well.

Bucking Beads · Dec 20, 2015

Hellgood said:
Terrible post.

Yes, his test career has had it's shit periods but they've been interspersed with innings of high class and quality. As an ODI batsman, he stacks up as one of our best as well.

The utter shit has outweighed the class innings of by a long way.

Bucking Beads · Dec 20, 2015

Burns is the odd man out unfortunately. He just hasn't cashed in enough. He doesn't deserve to get dropped but Marsh has been really good since his recall and Khawaja has 2 tons in a row. I'm a biased QLDER so I'm going to be cut deep that Burns gets dropped.

Hellgood · Dec 20, 2015

Bucking Beads said:
Burns is the odd man out unfortunately. He just hasn't cashed in enough. He doesn't deserve to get dropped but Marsh has been really good since his recall and Khawaja has 2 tons in a row. I'm a biased QLDER so I'm going to be cut deep that Burns gets dropped.

Is there a chance Khawaja doesn't get up though?

Shiv · Dec 20, 2015

Marshy has to go if they see burns as a long term opener.

Shiv · Dec 20, 2015

Hellgood said:
Is there a chance Khawaja doesn't get up though?

Nope, I believe he is playing today in the big bash?

Bucking Beads · Dec 20, 2015

Hellgood said:
Is there a chance Khawaja doesn't get up though?

I don't view a T 20 match as enough to prove fitness for a test match but the selectors seem to.

BEEG · Dec 20, 2015

Its tough but I think Burns misses out.

JackOutback · Dec 20, 2015

Shiv said:
Marshy has to go if they see burns as a long term opener.

Burns is not a long term opener.

They really should give Khawaja one more Test to get right and let Burns and Marsh have a bat-off. But he's playing well in the Big Bash tonight, so they'll put him straight back in.

bird_man · Dec 20, 2015

Hellgood said:
Terrible post.

Yes, his test career has had it's shit periods but they've been interspersed with innings of high class and quality. As an ODI batsman, he stacks up as one of our best as well.

One of our best odi batsmen? He's not even in our best side.

Bucking Beads · Dec 20, 2015

Khawaja in great form.

J Peterman · Dec 20, 2015

big_e said:
Call me old-fashioned but I'm not that fussed whether a player has technical deficiencies or not - it should simply come down to runs.

If that's the case he still goes

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Howard Littlejohn · Dec 20, 2015

J Peterman said:
His time will likely come when Voges calls it quits or has a drop off in form i'd imagine. The move can't be justified presently

Don't play Mitch Marsh. If the fifth bowler has to do enough work to justify selection, odds are enough have runs have been conceded to need six batsmen. If he doesn't get that much work, its wasting a batting spot.
The "all-rounder spot" is one of the worst fallacies of modern Test selection.

Warner
Khawaja
Smith
S Marsh
Burns
Voges

I think Smith should bowl himself more anyway, he's loose bot also dangerous; Voges can do a stop-gap tight role; and Warner can roll the arm over at a pinch when necessary.
The question is whether M Marsh is actually a better batsman right now than S Marsh or Burns. I don't think so, but can understand that others would fiffer on that point.

Actually, the real question is how does one four hour game prove fitness for a five day one. I wouldn't be bringing Khawaja back on that basis.

Underarm · Dec 20, 2015

Today's Innings reminds me of When Marsh got his debut. Century in Sri Lanka, as a replacement for Ponting. Gets injured 2 tests later; scores 99 in his return match for Perth Scorchers, before spudding it up against India.
Hope Khawaja fairs better than that on his return.

Bucking Beads said:
I don't view a T 20 match as enough to prove fitness for a test match but the selectors seem to.

There's no other option, And 20 overs in the field (and a long stint in the middle batting) is probably more than they would put him through in practise...

Demosthenes · Dec 20, 2015

Hellgood said:
Is there a chance Khawaja doesn't get up though?

Mark Waugh has already said he's playing on Boxing Day.

Bucking Beads · Dec 21, 2015

Underarm said:
Today's Innings reminds me of When Marsh got his debut. Century in Sri Lanka, as a replacement for Ponting. Gets injured 2 tests later; scores 99 in his return match for Perth Scorchers, before spudding it up against India.
Hope Khawaja fairs better than that on his return.

There's no other option, And 20 overs in the field (and a long stint in the middle batting) is probably more than they would put him through in practise...

Smacking a ton and fielding 20 overs is a decent way to prove fitness. It could easily have been 10 off 7 balls and 20 overs of fielding which doesn't really put him through much of a fitness test though

HBF · Dec 21, 2015

Bucking Beads said:
Khawaja in great form.

What a knock that was last night. Seeing the ball like a beachball.

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