Changes for next year, Round 1

[JAKLAUGHING]

B: Rance Astbury Broad
HB: Houli Vlastin Grimes
C: Stack Pickett Bolton
HF: Reiwoldt Cotchin Lambert
F: Castagna Martin Lynch
R: Soldo Prestia Edwards
I: Soldo, Graham, Rioli, Caddy

Emerg: RCD, McIntosh, Ross, Baker, Balta, Chol, CCJ, Aarts, Short

Two Soldos!

 

[peternorth]

Two Soldos!

Oops nank in the bench

 

[Ceehook]

swap the VFL and AFL sides

get trouble from the AFL for bringing the game into disrepute pre game

post game sing the song after beating the blues

 

[Stan Judkins]

B:
Dylan Grimes David Astbury Alex Rance
193cm 90kg 195cm 96kg 194cm 95kg
HB:
Bachar Houli Nick Vlastuin Jayden Short
180cm 84kg 187cm 87kg 178cm 76kg
C:
Marlion Pickett Trent Cotchin Josh Caddy
184cm 84kg 185cm 85kg 186cm 88kg
HF:
Shai Bolton Jason Castagna Kane Lambert
175cm 76kg 181cm 80kg 178cm 77kg
F:
Jack Riewoldt Tom Lynch Daniel Rioli
195cm 92kg 199cm 99kg 179cm 76kg
Foll:
Toby Nankervis Dustin Martin Dion Prestia
199cm 102kg 187cm 92kg 175cm 82kg
I/C:
Ivan Soldo Shane Edwards Sydney Stack Nathan Broad
204cm 106kg 182cm 81kg 176cm 72kg 192cm 89kg

 

[_DBF_]

B:
Dylan Grimes David Astbury Alex Rance
193cm 90kg 195cm 96kg 194cm 95kg
HB:
Bachar Houli Nick Vlastuin Jayden Short
180cm 84kg 187cm 87kg 178cm 76kg
C:
Marlion Pickett Trent Cotchin Josh Caddy
184cm 84kg 185cm 85kg 186cm 88kg
HF:
Shai Bolton Jason Castagna Kane Lambert
175cm 76kg 181cm 80kg 178cm 77kg
F:
Jack Riewoldt Tom Lynch Daniel Rioli
195cm 92kg 199cm 99kg 179cm 76kg
Foll:
Toby Nankervis Dustin Martin Dion Prestia
199cm 102kg 187cm 92kg 175cm 82kg
I/C:
Ivan Soldo Shane Edwards Sydney Stack Nathan Broad
204cm 106kg 182cm 81kg 176cm 72kg 192cm 89kg

Not dissimilar to mine. Love what Graham brings. Love Shorty too but I had Graham for Short. I need more BENCH!


Grimes Astbury Rance
Stack Vlastuin Houli
Lambert Cotchin Caddy
Bolton Castagna Rioli
Martin Lynch Riewoldt
Soldo Prestia Edwards
Nankervis Broad Pickett Graham/Short

 

[Stan Judkins]

Not dissimilar to mine. Love what Graham brings. Love Shorty too but I had Graham for Short. I need more BENCH!


Grimes Astbury Rance
Stack Vlastuin Houli
Lambert Cotchin Caddy
Bolton Castagna Rioli
Martin Lynch Riewoldt
Soldo Prestia Edwards
Nankervis Broad Pickett Graham/Short

Yeah difficult to pick the last 6 places
I had short in for his kicking out of the back half like houli and vlastuin
Saying that pickett and stack can play anywhere, so graham for me is a 50/50 with say broad
The whole team is so well balanced with experience and stars on each line
And the midfield looks so strong that Dusty can play fwd as much as he likes
Guys like macintosh, ross, baker, Higgins will be up against it to push into this line up

 

[kozi]

AFL quality depth with a fully fit 22:

K-Mac
Higgins
Baker
Ross
Chol
Balta
RCD
Garth
Menadue
Butler
Markov
Naish
Egg
CCJ

Scary stuff.

 

[Schlurp]

Scary stuff indeed. Collingwood may have done us a huge favour by shaking up our complacency in 2018. Dimma now won't hear talk about dynasties, Dusty is reputedly focused on personal and professional improvement with the objective of justifying his top level contract to himself and his team mates, and players like Jack R and Titch are talking about the addictive nature of Premiership success. The Richmond brand is firmly in place and good luck to our opponents in dismantling it. I hope everybody at the Club kicks back for a while and absorbs the enjoyment of the two flags. Then business as usual to do it all again.

 

[Stan Judkins]

The thing I love about the current tigers is the backline
Reminds me of stars like Max Hislop, Vic Thorp and Jimmy Smith in the 1920's
Basil McCormack, Maurie Sheahan and Jack Baggott in the 1930's
We've always had talented midfields and forwards, but the backline was more workman like during late 1960', 1970's and early 1980's
Now were pretty much talented across all 3 lines which is amazing and awesome

 

[The Mighty]

As of right now.


B Broad Rance Grimes

HB Houli Dave Vlastuin

C Edwards Pickett Caddy

HF Cotchin JR8 Lambert

F Rioli Tommy Castagna

R Soldo Martin Prestia


Int - Stack, Nank, Bolton and either of Graham/Ross/Short/Baker.

 

[GN272]

102 goals 110 behinds is what we conceded in our 12 game winning streak post bye. So 8.75 goals and 9.16 behinds. Teams averaged 61 points against us in that period when the backline was together and settled the whole way I think.

177 goals 131 behinds is what we scored. 14.75 goals and more or less 11 behinds. We averaged 99 points for to show scoring conditions were not especially difficult on the whole.

In 2018 with Rance in the backline in 24 matches teams scored 256.199 against us, about 72 points on average.

In 2017 with Rance there the team averaged conceding similar in the low 70's.
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Where I am going with this is to ask has the structure of the backline worked better in 2019 without Rance once it was fully stocked from round 15 onwards? And if so, why would that be?

I personally don't think it has to do with Rance the player. I think the issue is Rance the backline general, where it might have been a little bit all about him. So my submission would be that whoever was leading that backline in Rance's absence, presumably Astbury, should continue to do so. And Rance should play a role really no more prominent in the structure and chain of command than Vlastuin or Grimes did this year.

But in for me Rance(of course) Stack(of course) and any of Graham, Ross, CCJ, Balta, Naish, and any ready made recruit/s.

Out Ellis, and after that it gets tougher.

Curve ball trade deal: Only if the players are comfortable with this...go to GCS and offer Rance, Macintosh, maybe even Markov or Moore if they want them, along with Ellis of course. The immediate influx of hardened solid senior players and leadership is what they desperately need. And the fact all of those players come from one successful club should be helpful to them as well. In return we want the bloke who won the GF sprint yesterday - King, and/or another future gun. Use draft picks to equalise the deal.

Rance should theoretically love it, he is just what they need, high profile, high quality, leadership and he has the perfect beach boy looks to suit the Gold Coast, and can get a huge pay packet. Macintosh can get a decent wedge as well.

We benefit by starting to stagger the transition between Rance, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Astbury, Edwards, Martin, Houli and the next group of quality players who lead the team. We clear some nice cap space to help with retention of all our good youngsters.

Gold Coast benefit from getting something meaningful into their club for the inevitable loss of one of these young guns, not just more high end draft picks.

The young gun benefits from coming to a brilliant club and fitting comfortably into the overall plan for us.

We appreciate your passion - now go sit in the truck and think about it for a while

 

[Turka]

B: Grimes, Astbury, Vlastuin
HB: Houli, Rance, Short
C: Pickett, Cotchin, Caddy
HF: Edwards, Lynch, Castagna
F: Bolton, Riewoldt, Rioli
R: Nankervis, Martin, Prestia
I: Soldo, Broad, Lambert, Stack

EMG: Graham, Ross, McIntosh, Baker, Naish, CCJ, RCD, Garthwaite, Balta

Geez going to be some serious competition for spots!

All Premiership players should start (so Baker back in for Stack - and he killed it by the way)...Rance for Ellis...And the rest need to fight. Hard.

 

[Marcel Proust]

All Premiership players should start (so Baker back in for Stack - and he killed it by the way)...Rance for Ellis...And the rest need to fight. Hard.

Rough on Graham

 

[Marcel Proust]

the more i think about it -

Ellis
Baker
Short

for

Rance
Stack
Ross/Graham

hate to drop Baker (bit rough on Short too) but can fit everyone in

 

[peternorth]

The thing I love about the current tigers is the backline
Reminds me of stars like Max Hislop, Vic Thorp and Jimmy Smith in the 1920's
Basil McCormack, Maurie Sheahan and Jack Baggott in the 1930's
We've always had talented midfields and forwards, but the backline was more workman like during late 1960', 1970's and early 1980's
Now were pretty much talented across all 3 lines which is amazing and awesome

I enjoyed the times of Bullus, Tape, Howat.

 

[Morro]

CCJ and RCD will take the biggest steps in 2020 whilst Stack and Rance are monty's to return. Biggest question will be can we play with 2 ruckman( nank , soldo ,2 KPF's (jack/lynch) and a 50/50 ruck-forward in CCJ.

You reckon RCD will push for games as soon as 2020?

That would be massive

 

[guruisatiger]

The thing I love about the current tigers is the backline
Reminds me of stars like Max Hislop, Vic Thorp and Jimmy Smith in the 1920's
Basil McCormack, Maurie Sheahan and Jack Baggott in the 1930's
We've always had talented midfields and forwards, but the backline was more workman like during late 1960', 1970's and early 1980's
Now were pretty much talented across all 3 lines which is amazing and awesome

The thing I love about the current tigers is the backline
Reminds me of stars like Max Hislop, Vic Thorp and Jimmy Smith in the 1920's
Basil McCormack, Maurie Sheahan and Jack Baggott in the 1930's
We've always had talented midfields and forwards, but the backline was more workman like during late 1960', 1970's and early 1980's
Now were pretty much talented across all 3 lines which is amazing and awesome

Add to McCormack Sheahan, and Baggot
Marty Bolger,, Joe Murdoch and Kevin Oneil
That back 6 was awesome
As was our centerline with you on one wing, Alan Geddes on the other
And Eric Zschech in the middle
That team in the early 30s had arguably 4 of our best lines in the history of our great club
Our best full back line,,,- Bolger Sheahan-- Oneil
Our best half back line -- McCormack-Murdock- Baggot
Our best centerline --- Judkins--- Zschech-- Geddes
Our best ruck/ roverline- Bentley- Dyer- Martin

 

[Stan Judkins]

I enjoyed the times of Bullus, Tape, Howat.

And Scott Turner, don't forget him

 

[Stan Judkins]

Add to McCormack Sheahan, and Baggot
Marty Bolger,, Joe Murdoch and Kevin Oneil
That back 6 was awesome
As was our centerline with you on one wing, Alan Geddes on the other
And Eric Zschech in the middle
That team in the early 30s had arguably 4 of our best lines in the history of our great club
Our best full back line,,,- Bolger Sheahan-- Oneil
Our best half back line -- McCormack-Murdock- Baggot
Our best centerline --- Judkins--- Zschech-- Geddes
Our best ruck/ roverline- Bentley- Dyer- Martin

Yes, considering the amount of gun forwards around at the time, that was a match winning/match saving backline
As good as Vic thorp was, maurie Sheahan was very underrated
The centre line and followers was first class, played in so many finals and grand finals
Incredible era in our clubs history

 

[Maylandsman]

And Scott Turner, don't forget him

Diamond in the rough.

 

[guruisatiger]

Yes, considering the amount of gun forwards around at the time, that was a match winning/match saving backline
As good as Vic thorp was, maurie Sheahan was very underrated
The centre line and followers was first class, played in so many finals and grand finals
Incredible era in our clubs history

Love reading about our history,, so many great characters
So many great stories
I love Jack dyers look at our history
His book with Brian Hansen is a must read

 

[Madtiger2006]

Exciting times
Round 1

Grimes Rance Houli
Baker Astbury Vlastuin
Stack Prestia Edwards
Short Reiwoldt Rioli
Bolton Lynch Costagna
Soldo Martin Cotchin
Pickett Caddy Lambert Nankervis

 

[Stan Judkins]

Love reading about our history,, so many great characters
So many great stories
I love Jack dyers look at our history
His book with Brian Hansen is a must read

So many absolute stars back then, crazy thing was there were so many enforces (not thugs or behind the play cowards) in each team
It was a tough and rough time where you earned your kicks and marks
Brutal and very physical time to be a footballer, don't think many today would last a season back then to be honest
Saying that our team at the moment is very physical (only have to look at GF) at the man and the ball
Very confident and talented team for sure the 2017-2019 tigers are, great times ahead

 

[mopsy]

If not for injury Rance Stack and Graham would have probably played in the g/f. With Ellis gone as well theres possibly 4 changes to the premiership team without even thinking about it.

Add in the fact im bullish about the need to get games into Ross and Balta and id have no problems with 6 or more changes to the team.Theres one other bloke id love to see get a game in D-E-S and in all honesty id be happy with the following.Mainly because i feel those coming in are more rounded than those going out.

B/ Grimes - Astbury - Vlastuin
H-B/ D-E-S - Rance - Houli, if Houli wasnt there Stack or Pickett.

C/ Ross - Martin - Pickett
R/ Soldo or Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia. The ruckman we take in depends on the ruck type we are up against.Could be we need both in some games.

H-F/ Lambert - Riewoldt - Edwards. Lambert and edwards gives us real flexability and midfield depth/rotations.
F/ Castagna - Lynch - Balta.

Int/ Graham - Bolton - Caddy - Stack.

Rance for Broad
D-e-s for Short
Ross for Ellis
Balta for one of the ruckmen/fwds
Stack for Baker
Graham for Rioli

Rioli aside i think the changes are no brainers if we are looking to improve.In every case the replacements project as more rounded players imo.

 

[guruisatiger]

So many absolute stars back then, crazy thing was there were so many enforces (not thugs or behind the play cowards) in each team
It was a tough and rough time where you earned your kicks and marks
Brutal and very physical time to be a footballer, don't think many today would last a season back then to be honest
Saying that our team at the moment is very physical (only have to look at GF) at the man and the ball
Very confident and talented team for sure the 2017-2019 tigers are, great times ahead

Absolutely,,, 100% agree,, good thing back then was all the players ( both teams)
Would have a beer afterwards, and patch up there differences,, the umpires were
There as well,, ,,, it was brutal back then,,, especially in the Wednesday league
In the late 20s early 30s,,
Teams like the railway workers,,,, the wharfies,,,, the police and firies,, the cabbies
All played against each other, and use to belt the living suitcases out of each other
Fun times lol