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Beats28772 said:
Can't blame Dixon for his lack of scoring opportunities. Perhaps if our midfield knew how to kick a football and make the right decisions our forward line would be more efficient.
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No but we sure can blame Butcher. :$
 
Schulzenfest said:
O'Shea has played 79 ****ing games of AFL football. In what world does he need 'another chance'? How much more do we need to see?

Pick 8
Key position forward
One of only two fit key position forwards on our list
Has played 31 games
Two weeks removed from a 20 and 4 game.

Pick 52
Half back flanker
One of about 28 half back flankers on our list
Has played 79 games.

Which one of these players needs 'another chance' more?
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrggggghhh!
 

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Chiwigi said:
If that happens, I will genuinely walk out. You don't drop Bitcher to put Trengove at forward, you just ******* don't!
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Trengove has to play up forward next year as there is no other spot for him.

Hombsch, Clurey and Austin will be the KPD's down back and Trengove is not going to take one of their spots.

We need Trengove to support Ryder in the ruck next year so we might as well give him the next 3 games up forward to see what he can do.

Plus Butcher is gone at the end of the year so we need to start planning for what will happen next year.
 
Nelso said:
Trengove has to play up forward next year as there is no other spot for him.

Hombsch, Clurey and Austin will be the KPD's down back and Trengove is not going to take one of their spots.
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Nice new meme. I think this has as much potential as the Amon is bad and Hartlett needs to be dropped meems.
 
philthy05 said:
Trengove up forward ?

It's like poeple have never watched some of these guys , ever.

I can't even rememeber Trengove taking a mark in the backline , and you wanna see if he can become a forward ?

Trengove as a tall backman is a shutdown scragging spoiler.

Also , the irony of delisted a player who was never given a consistant go at it as he just improves his kicking , to play a backman with probably the worst ball drop on our team forward is crazy.


Put any idea of Trengove being a capable forward out of your mind.
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I personally think we should be trading Trengove because he has become an average defender and can't carry the ruck. His only chance of maintaining a place in our best 22 is as a forward/ruck tandem with Ryder. So we need to see of he can play forward and we have nothing else to play for now so worth giving him 3 weeks to see if there's anything there.

Despite what a lot of people here seem to think you really can't have a defender as your second ruck because it is too destabilising to the back 6. All successful teams have a solid back 6 who play as a unit.
 

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***shakes head***

our defense has held up real well this year under strain. But lets not forget that jacko and hombshe are our two best defenders. These Two are a lock in. The other spot with be fought between austin and clurey. There are certain to be injuries throughout year so it will just be a rotation between those 4.

This week people will be reminded of how much jackson is the general back there.
 
I'm not a fan of Butcher being dropped. Nor do I like the idea of the senior core going untouched after their Sydney siesta - but some of the comments directed towards the coach are a tad extreme.
 
Chiwigi said:
If that happens, I will genuinely walk out. You don't drop Bitcher to put Trengove at forward, you just ******* don't!
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Did lol at "bitcher" tho
 
SupportMe said:
I'm not a fan of Butcher being dropped. Nor do I like the idea of the senior core going untouched after their Sydney siesta - but some of the comments directed towards the coach are a tad extreme.
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This point's probably already been made, but if we don't delist or trade Butcher after tonight, everyone involved with playing personnel decision-making should go.

Jay is almost certainly cooked. Dougal's blown out his knee. Dixon's crying out to be shut down for the year after the ankle tweak and frankly deplorable form of his past 7 games (4 goals, 1 goal assist, no more than 3 marks).

If we intend on giving him another year, why would you pass up the chance to give the Dixon-Butcher experiment another run, in a league match, against a commensurate opponent, in more favourable conditions at home? Or is waiting 6 months to trial it in the NAB Challenge against Jong Footscray at Bordertown in 36 degree heat preferable?

Never mind the opportunity to put Dixon in cotton wool and potentially get Butcher's trade value up. What if he performs to even half the level he did against Melbourne or Gold Coast? Not only are we protecting one of our prime assets, we could extract a 3rd round pick from a desperate Lions outfit or similar.

It's gotten to the point where there's no plan and everything is improvised. A sure sign this regime has lost it, and are now not sure they ever had it.

Yet another year of just expecting it to click then.
 
Oh look, Jesse Palmer got picked... As a forward, replacing Brendon Ah Chee as another not quite forward not quite midfielder in our squad.

Could we pick a position that lets these players excel at and keep them there?

Is he a forward, is he a midfielder?

He will struggle because our structure is so convoluted and broken that when in the forward line he'll be like:

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and in the midfield everyone in there will be like:

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We have too many inbetweener players who have given our coaches this false sense of flexibility.

Player - Inbetweener position the coaches see them as - Actual position

Ryder - Forward/Ruck - #1 ruck
Broadbent - Utility - Literally no idea tbh
Hartlett - Mid/Def - Same as Broadbent
Trengove - Def/Ruck - Forward/Ruck
O'shea - Def - Wing/HFF
Stewart - KPF/KPD - HBF
Amon - Forward/Wing - See Broadbent
Dixon - FF - Forward/Ruck
Lobbe - Ruck - see Broadbent
Impey - Def/Forward - Forward
Palmer - Forward/Mid - see Broadbent
Westhoff - Nomad - KPP
Young - Mostly forward/mid - HFF
Ah Chee - Mid/forward - Midfielder (i think)

14 players whose positions are as confusing as our game plan and consistency is.
 

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RossFC said:
Yeah on Broadbent, he's good for 15 touches a game. But wtf does he actually do?
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I have no idea where he plays his best football, because he's average to good wherever they put him. He is yet to have a position and take ownership of it and he's 26, you'd hope he would have nailed a position by now.

He's like a slower, shorter, less talented Westhoff. Which is what our coaches like to call "flexible" which actually means "good bloke, does his job, not much else though."
 
RossFC said:
Yeah on Broadbent, he's good for 15 touches a game. But wtf does he actually do?
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Broadbent plays 2 good games in defence, then after 10 weeks of nothing we try something different and put him in the midfield where he plays another 2 good games. That's basically his whole career. If he was better defensively he could probably hold down a defensive spot but he's not quite good enough.
 

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