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Big game next week. Wouldn’t want to drop two leading into the bye although it wouldn’t surprise me with the way we are playing right now and a quick turnaround off Perth.

Changes wise it sounds like Joey is back thankfully! I’d personally drop Oscar or Eric before Fort but can’t see them doing it. So Fort out. Joe in.

I’d also like us to drop Lyons, which again is unlikely but something needs to change in the middle. Can’t consistently get belted out of there and expect the defence to hold up.

Harris is still playing bog average but again they’re not going to drop him but maybe Lester comes back in for Darcy instead of Payne for a bit more leadership back there?

After all that, given the quick turnaround it wouldn’t surprise if there were 1-2 others to miss.
 
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It's a must win!

Not for any finals sake but generally for the sanity of this board. I fear what two losses in a row going into the bye would do to a lot of people on here!
 
Daniher for Fort or Oscar (toss a coin- both C graders)
Matho for Lyons
Payne or Lester for Dizzy (if unfit)
Ah Chee for Dev unless they wanna play him on the ball

Not sure how we cover for Zorko. Opponent cuts us up

Like Maddens pace but he does SFA in the 2s
 

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Assuming Dizzy is injured I'd go:

In: Daniher, Lester
Out: Fort, Gardiner

I'd be giving JL a few more weeks, but if he is a liability against the Saints and Demons at centre bounces, I can see him losing his spot.
 
Lester and Dainher to come in. Lyons can't get picked next week. His off the ball effort is a disgrace. Maybe change the team up somehow but that effort can't be rewarded. His stats look fine but it's not telling the story


10 disgraceful tackles in today's game, two more than Zorko with eight and three more than Freo's best , Serong with seven.
 
10 disgraceful tackles in today's game, two more than Zorko with eight and three more than Freo's best , Serong with seven.

Stats don't tell the story. Jumping on players in packs boosts numbers. Not following players from clearances isn't included in stats.
 
Lester for Gardiner. Hopefully Daniher good to go with Fort unfortunately likely to make way.

Mathieson deserves a go as does Tom Berry. I’d like Madden in as well for the point of difference his pace offers. God we look slow.

I’d be surprised if the coaches didn’t reward Matho. Been dominating in the VFL for weeks now leading up to his mammoth 49 possession effort on Friday. Him and Tom Berry would come in incredibly hungry.
 
Pretty easy to rack up tackles when you’re not going for the footy for 3 quarters of the game


The criticism I attempted to address was for his efforts off the ball.

Now you pile on because you reckon he wasn't going for the footy either.

Yet he had 24 possessions as well as those 10 tackles.

Maybe you and Big Sauce 21 should go into a huddle and run a joint ticket
 
The criticism I attempted to address was for his efforts off the ball.

Now you pile on because you reckon he wasn't going for the footy either.

Yet he had 24 possessions as well as those 10 tackles.

Maybe you and Big Sauce 21 should go into a huddle and run a joint ticket

Did you watch the game or just look at stats?
 

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If our mids struggle for the next two games I say it's time we activate our secret weapon.

Starce to the middle to pulverise opposition midfielders. 😎
 
Freo were practically walking the ball out of the centre stoppages, apart from Rayner, the ruckmen and inside mids did not do their job. Why was Robertson not given a go there? We can't carry 2 ruckmen when neither provided a presence up forward.

Out: Gardiner, Lyons, McInerney
In: Lester, Mathieson, Berry/Wilmot
 
The criticism I attempted to address was for his efforts off the ball.

Now you pile on because you reckon he wasn't going for the footy either.

Yet he had 24 possessions as well as those 10 tackles.

Maybe you and Big Sauce 21 should go into a huddle and run a joint ticket
kind of agree with this.

jl wasnt amazing but its not like the rest of the mid brigade rocked up guns blazing either. getting a bit of the whipping boy treatment in the context of that game. clug was well and truly down on output (albeit coming back off injury)

i would like to see matho get a run but i have a bit of a soft spot for him.

think lester could be really good for the back 6 assuming he comes in for gardiner. maybe if we have him doing more of the shotcalling back there harris can focus just on his game and hit those highs we know he can. ive been saying dizzy should be dropped for payne / lester for a bit and now that it seems like a forced change guess we see how it goes. him going down was a pretty big turning point against freo though so maybe ive been undervaluing his contributions
 
If our mids struggle for the next two games I say it's time we activate our secret weapon.

Starce to the middle to pulverise opposition midfielders. 😎

You were supposed to say Basti
 

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Did you watch the game or just look at stats?
I watch every game

I've watched every Lions game since 1997 and just about every Brisbane Bears game since 1987.

One thing that I've learned over all those years, us that scapegoating individual players after a loss is a totally futile exercise.

Losses, especially narrow ones, are due to a complex mix of many factors
 
Was talking to my Dad earlier, who is far more astute about footy and AFL in general and he is of the view that perhaps our overall second position on the ladder is misleading. As he said, we've had a pretty soft draw to date compared to our opposition and with a very tough run over the next 3 games and then finishing with a final four games of the season that is even harder probably says we arent the second best team in the comp. I've often thought that our players seem to think they can turn and win - Hawks game proof of that - and overall our form has been on the nose for most of the year, despite winning.

I tipped us to beat Dockers today and on the back of dropping the Hawks game coupled with a number of teams on 32 points, I think if we have drop Saints and Demons, we could drop as far as sixth or seventh on the ladder in pretty quick time, which is a long way to thinking this morning we could be equal top if we beat Dockers. I suspect that maybe we just are a middle top 8 team with Demons, Dockers, Cats and possibly Blues and Saints and even the Dogs well in front of us.

Time will tell and I do hope my Roys - Lions loving Dad and even myself is horribly wrong.

My 4 year old son Jonathan roos Quinlan the 3rd said to me that we are big pretenders who will never win a game because Harris Andrew’s got dumped :(

Smart kid, I reckon he could lead practice and so a better job than these bum coaches
 
Lester as got to be in next week. Probably for Gardiner. In fact, Lester should be a permanent member of our team.

I think you've got to reward reserves form to, otherwise those guys lose hope I would think. For that reason, Robinson, Mathieson and Terry should get a good so for guys that have been so, so in recent weeks such as Lyons, whose end is coming. Scary that he has years to go to. I like Lincoln a lot,but he needs a rest and Fort should be kept in. Oscar or Eric out for Joe for mine. Zorko out for Mitch.

We need hardness and pace and Mitch and Terry are that. I'm probably wrong and it is only the VFL, but Mathieson looks improved and his form should be rewarded.
Terry for Jerry?


:p:)
 
Rich almost needs a mini-preseason to get his mojo back.
I would've preferred to give him Freo, Saints and bye off - bring him back fresh for Demons.

Please don't tell me "but we should be playing our best team against the best".. did that already this week and we're just piling pressure on players who are down in form. Just bite the bullet and start rotating players off.
 
Whether or not the midfield is on next weekend. Andrews needs to make a statement on King.
If he’s flat, King will kick a game winning bag.
 
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