Changes vs Carlton

[AsterixTheGaul]

Genuine question - has he ever been tried as a tagger? If so how did it go?

The biggest knock on Masten seems to be his decision making and disposal. He gets enough of it, and runs hard enough.

I always seem to see him in a lose role across the half back or half forward, which I reckon serves to highlight his weaknesses (I wouldnt really want him to be a key player in setting up offensive plays; I often see him kicking sideways or slowing things up). Guess I've just always felt he would be best played with a direct opponent in a tagging role, something he should exell at.

Probably a bit late for it now, but has it ever been done, and did it work?

To be a tagger you need to be able to stick a tackle. In this he fails.

The criticism on Masten at West Coast has been he can't lay or break a tackle. He is actually a very good kick though his stats get a little padded as so many of his kicks go backwards - he plays the defensive wing so involved a lot in providing outlets in defence.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

He did well on Brad Hill in the most recent derby so I think there is merit in the idea of him tagging the opposition outside runners.

Yeah I think the only time you could ever try to have him curb someone’s influence is if they’re a very particular type of outside runner. Anything else would be a recipe for humiliation.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Genuine question - has he ever been tried as a tagger? If so how did it go?

The biggest knock on Masten seems to be his decision making and disposal. He gets enough of it, and runs hard enough.

I always seem to see him in a lose role across the half back or half forward, which I reckon serves to highlight his weaknesses (I wouldnt really want him to be a key player in setting up offensive plays; I often see him kicking sideways or slowing things up). Guess I've just always felt he would be best played with a direct opponent in a tagging role, something he should exell at.

Probably a bit late for it now, but has it ever been done, and did it work?

Oh - Masten gets to tag open space each week. He has been very successful as open space is yet to get a possession in 2019.

 

[Chris_6678]

I was stunned Masten is in the top 10 of all time for tackles at the club haha

 

[Malifice]

Blocking is a more important skill that tackling surely when you're a tagger?

You need the endurance to run with a bloke and then to negate him (without giving away a free) at the stoppage.

Tackling is a last resort really. You ideally want to stop them getting their hands on the ball at all.

Anyway, was just curious if it had ever been trailed with him.

We've had a couple of maligned players switch positions and carve a niche for themselves (Casboult and Jones). Just wasn't sure if it had been tried with Masten or not.

Feel like you'd be wasting Yeo a bit having him play a tagging role.

 

[bUCKET__]

Now that I think about it, I can see why a Blues supporter would prefer Masten to tag Cripps than Yeo.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

It is our annual game against Carlton that we often reflect on the Judd trade.

Last weekend JK booted his 600th goal. He has become our greatest ever goal scorer, a dual Coleman Medalist and a premiership player.

I am now in the camp that says JK for Judd was probably a fair trade. Anything else was just profit. We got Masten and Notte and while Tony did not work out, Masten has had a good career and is a proud member of the select group of footballers that own a premiership medallion. (No need to go Masten beating - he was the the best of those available in the range at pick 3).

Thanks Chris - you brought about a load of pain and hurt but in the fullness of time and as the saying goes, no pain no gain.

As Kerr suggested on his podcast, he’s up there and in the convo as a goat [emoji238]

 

[Keys]

Feel like you'd be wasting Yeo a bit having him play a tagging role.

Yeo has had success going head to head with the likes of Fyfe, Dangerfield and Martin in the past. It’s not strictly a tagging role but more making sure he’s a physical presence around them and can hurt them the other way as those 3 in particular don’t like being held accountable for an opponent so they are vulnerable

For whatever reason Yeo also likes the challenge against those types so Cripps looms as the sort of task he’d relish

 

[Brolga]

Surely Hurn misses another week?

He was injured in the warmup prior to the first missed game, so has in effect only had two weeks to recover. Normally if you are injured during a game you miss at least two matches with a calf which means three weeks to recover.
Do we really want to be taking risks with him this close to finals?

 

[Desert Rat]

Absolute danger game for us.
In saying that, since the bye Carton have played the other bottom 4 sides plus Freo and Adelaide. Who aren’t exactly setting the world on fire.
If we’re a true premiership threat we win by 30+
Hurn for Franky the only change with Duggan and Hutchings on managed minutes in the Beagles.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Cripps,Kennedy, McGovern and Simpson.
Which ****ing team am I talking about?

 

[wce4premiership]

I don't think Hurn's calf injury was of the same seriousness as others. More like Jetta's when he feels tight in warm ups, very slight irritations that they give two weeks to be safe. So I'd say he'll be fine.

 

[Tugga27]

Surely Hurn misses another week?

He was injured in the warmup prior to the first missed game, so has in effect only had two weeks to recover. Normally if you are injured during a game you miss at least two matches with a calf which means three weeks to recover.
Do we really want to be taking risks with him this close to finals?

They're not going to risk him.

If he's ready, he plays.
Pretty simple really.

 

[FKASC]

Cripps,Kennedy, McGovern and Simpson.
Which ******* team am I talking about?

Kane Lucas

 

[jooce8891]

Kane Lucas

gross...

 

[The wily weagle]

The biggest knock on Masten seems to be his decision making and disposal. He gets enough of it, and runs hard enough.

Without even kidding, Masten could be the weakest 1 on 1 player I have ever seen in my life.

If Chris and my 10 year old Neice were competing for a loose footy, my niece probably shoves him out of the way, grabs the ball and heads goalward whilst Masten fails to absorb the contact and goes to ground.

 

[Dazzler9]

Without even kidding, Masten could be the weakest 1 on 1 player I have ever seen in my life.

If Chris and my 10 year old Neice were competing for a loose footy, my niece probably shoves him out of the way, grabs the ball and heads goalward whilst Masten fails to absorb the contact and goes to ground.

Worst 'don't argue' in the game. Anyone got the gif's?

 

[The wily weagle]

Worst 'don't argue' in the game. Anyone got the gif's?

There was a very amusing GIF of the poor guy attempting the fend off, hitting the deck and getting done for holding the ball against Geelong in the pre season

 

[The wily weagle]

 

[The wily weagle]

My bad, he didn't actually attempt the fend off

 

[JEagle]

I’d have brander and hurn in for Watson and waterman


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Agree. Give brander a run

 

[woosha24]

My bad, he didn't actually attempt the fend off

Has Chris Masten ever successfully executed a fend-off in his entire AFL career? Every time he seems to try one his opponent just slaps his arm out of the way like a wet noodle and claims HTB. Its like a nega fend-off.

 

[JEagle]

Hutchings to play on Patrick Cripps. In crazy form.

I'd rather Simmo let Yeo take him on in a defensive role rather than throw hutch right in

 

[woosha24]

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Classic Chris. Has time and space, under minimal pressure, falls over nothing, gets caught HTB.

 

[Chad in Vegas]

Oh - Masten gets to tag open space each week. He has been very successful as open space is yet to get a possession in 2019.

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Looks like open space got one back on Masto here. I hope it got credited with the tackle.