changes vs North Melbourne

[RookiePick]

Do you guys still have Brad Scott week?

It appears Brad Scott has won the war of "Brad Scott Week"

 

[Abed]

These guys will start:

Butler Schofield Hurn
Sheppard ? Wellingham
Masten Priddis Gaff
? Darling ?
Cripps Kennedy LeCras

Lycett Yeo Shuey

Leaves 7 spots:
- Gov will play. So that's 1
- need two tall defenders. If gov is back its one of Barrass or Mackenzie. Think gov stays back and Barrass stays. That's 2.
- need a ruck/forward. Either Giles, brown or gov. Think they will give brown another week but ruck gov a bit. That's 3.
- that leaves 4 spots for Hutchings, McGinnity, Hill, Jetta, Nelson, Redden and Duggan.
- think Hutchings, McGinnity and Nelson stay. Other 4 vying for a spot. Think they may persist with Jetta and keep hill out.

No way Hill misses out if he's right to go. One of our best this year.

 

[Pottering]

With presumably Hill available, he must come back in and that would mean one of Jetta, Cripps or LeCras would go. And despite neither Cripps or LeCras setting the world on fire it has to be Jetta out. He hasn't fired a shot all year, at either AFL or WAFL level and cannot keep getting gifted a game based on reputation alone. Needs to go back to he WAFL and dominate to show he's worthy of an AFL game.

 

[Suma Magic]

No way Hill misses out if he's right to go. One of our best this year.

I can't see McGinnity being dropped either. Comes down to Hill or Jetta I reckon. I'd be happy for Hill to play.

 

[Keys]

For one of the first times this season there's genuine pressure from players outside the 22 competing for spots

 

[RookiePick]

If Hill is 100% he comes in. Been going beautifully.

If he's 90% he can have another week off.

 

[Biggie]

If Hill is 100% he comes in. Been going beautifully.

If he's 90% he can have another week off.

What if he is 95%?

 

[SpaceClef]

What if he is 95%?

Extended interchange bench

 

[RookiePick]

What if he is 95%?

We can't resolve fitness to that small an increment. Who do you think you are, a scientist?

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

So is it Brad Scott week yet?

 

[1986]

It's Butler's 150th, he won't be dropped.

Good point. It was a rushed post I also left out Hill. It's getting harder to fit them all in. Good problem to have.

 

[Biggie]

We can't resolve fitness to that small an increment. Who do you think you are, a scientist?

I'm just a mere mortal, asking the question of another mere mortal. For the question must be asked, if not by me, then by whom?

 

[QS]

is Brad Scott week dead?

 

[Big Cox 88]

is Brad Scott week dead?

Has the roof been closed this whole time?

 

[frenchconnection]

These guys will start:

Butler Schofield Hurn
Sheppard ? Wellingham
Masten Priddis Gaff
? Darling ?
Cripps Kennedy LeCras

Lycett Yeo Shuey

Leaves 7 spots:
- Gov will play. So that's 1
- need two tall defenders. If gov is back its one of Barrass or Mackenzie. Think gov stays back and Barrass stays. That's 2.
- need a ruck/forward. Either Giles, brown or gov. Think they will give brown another week but ruck gov a bit. That's 3.
- that leaves 4 spots for Hutchings, McGinnity, Hill, Jetta, Nelson, Redden and Duggan.
- think Hutchings, McGinnity and Nelson stay. Other 4 vying for a spot. Think they may persist with Jetta and keep hill out.

If Hill has got over his tonsillitis has to come back in as has been in good form. If still only 50/50 then give him another week off. But then who to drop is the question as think Jetta needs to be left in to find some consistency and what he does, he does well - just has to work harder that's all. Hard to drop McGinnity based on last weeks game as his 4 goals came in handy, which leaves Dropping either Hutchings or Nelson. Who had the better game last week. What Hutchings has over Nelson at this stage is he knows where the goals are. Glad I'm not a selector having to make these difficult decisions

 

[Big_Tony]

If Hill has got over his tonsillitis has to come back in as has been in good form. If still only 50/50 then give him another week off. But then who to drop is the question as think Jetta needs to be left in to find some consistency and what he does, he does well - just has to work harder that's all. Hard to drop McGinnity based on last weeks game as his 4 goals came in handy, which leaves Dropping either Hutchings or Nelson. Who had the better game last week. What Hutchings has over Nelson at this stage is he knows where the goals are. Glad I'm not a selector having to make these difficult decisions

I tried to watch Jetta closely last game (with the caveat that I wasn't actually at the game so relying on broadcast vision). It looks like one of his biggest problems is his running patterns. Once he gets the ball he looks quality... he just needs to get to the right areas more often to be more involved in the play. On many occasions he got stuck between lines and was overlooked for a pass. So I'm not sure if the best way for him to find form is to be dropped to the WAFL. What he might need is time to understand how to play in our systems... which will only come by spending time playing with the squad at AFL level!

A bit of a conundrum. Do we write the year off now and put up with short term pain for long term gain by developing players? Or being only 1 win from second spot... do we need to keep pushing with our current best 22 and push for short term success? Or maybe try and have the best of both worlds? I don't really know.

 

[ROC1969]

I would love for us to win by a point after a controversial free kick is given in the goal square as the siren is about to go - the Kanagroos coaches box would explode!

 

[Pottering]

I tried to watch Jetta closely last game (with the caveat that I wasn't actually at the game so relying on broadcast vision). It looks like one of his biggest problems is his running patterns. Once he gets the ball he looks quality... he just needs to get to the right areas more often to be more involved in the play. On many occasions he got stuck between lines and was overlooked for a pass. So I'm not sure if the best way for him to find form is to be dropped to the WAFL. What he might need is time to understand how to play in our systems... which will only come by spending time playing with the squad at AFL level!

A bit of a conundrum. Do we write the year off now and put up with short term pain for long term gain by developing players? Or being only 1 win from second spot... do we need to keep pushing with our current best 22 and push for short term success? Or maybe try and have the best of both worlds? I don't really know.

I don't think Jetta deserves the luxury of finding form while playing at the AFL level, half a season in it appears no closer. He's shown nothing this year and was ordinary at Sydney for the last year or so I thought. We swapped him for Sinclair knowing we had a ready made replacement in Lycett ready to go, whereas Sydney had no like for like replacement. This suggests to me he was expendable for Sydney while Sinclair probably wouldn't have been without Lycett. Redden responded to being dropped with 28 possessions and 3 goals but Jetta's WAFL performances were mediocre at best and shocking at worst.

If Jetta's as good as everyone thinks he is then he should dominate the WAFL and consequently demand an AFL recall. I don't think that's too much to ask for.

 

[eagles rule]

I can't see McGinnity being dropped either. Comes down to Hill or Jetta I reckon. I'd be happy for Hill to play.

4 goals v Essendon won't save Paddy at best he's a just a fringe player .

 

[Suma Magic]

4 goals v Essendon won't save Paddy at best he's a just a fringe player .

He is fringe but he had 4.1 and 3 goal assists in a fantastic performance. Can't see him being dropped.

 

[Chris_6678]

Sends a bad message if we drop him after that performance. Was happy to see players in the WAFL step it up for once.

 

[Chris_6678]

Ryan Daniels ‏@FootyRhino 3m3 minutes ago


From @WestCoastEagles training sesh: No JK, Nic Nat some light kicking, Lycett didn't break a sweat, neither did Sheed, Hill trained (virus)

 

[Big_Tony]

I don't think Jetta deserves the luxury of finding form while playing at the AFL level, half a season in it appears no closer. He's shown nothing this year and was ordinary at Sydney for the last year or so I thought. We swapped him for Sinclair knowing we had a ready made replacement in Lycett ready to go, whereas Sydney had no like for like replacement. This suggests to me he was expendable for Sydney while Sinclair probably wouldn't have been without Lycett. Redden responded to being dropped with 28 possessions and 3 goals but Jetta's WAFL performances were mediocre at best and shocking at worst.

If Jetta's as good as everyone thinks he is then he should dominate the WAFL and consequently demand an AFL recall. I don't think that's too much to ask for.

I agree with you... but it's not necessarily a matter of what he deserves, but what is in the best interests of the team in the medium-long term. He has shown enough to say he is a very damaging player when he gets the ball in his hands, but gets lost in no-man's land within our system at the moment. The question is how to manage and develop him to get him into his best form for us as quickly as possible.

I'm not saying we should definitely keep him in by the way... I'm just posing the question. This is the dilemma the club faces with good players who are not having an impact such as Jetta and LeCras. I'm sure there are positives/negatives with either approach.

 

[SpaceClef]

I don't think Jetta deserves the luxury of finding form while playing at the AFL level, half a season in it appears no closer. He's shown nothing this year and was ordinary at Sydney for the last year or so I thought. We swapped him for Sinclair knowing we had a ready made replacement in Lycett ready to go, whereas Sydney had no like for like replacement. This suggests to me he was expendable for Sydney while Sinclair probably wouldn't have been without Lycett. Redden responded to being dropped with 28 possessions and 3 goals but Jetta's WAFL performances were mediocre at best and shocking at worst.

29 touches, 6 marks and 0.3 in Round 9 hardly suggests mediocrity. If he nails those three goals all of a sudden his stats are no worse than Redden's, which apparently is your benchmark for a good response.

Of course he was expendable at Sydney - their midfield was already one of the best, and they just got gifted Heeney and Mills. Not sure what that has to do with anything though.

I think overall he will be a bit of a flop for the Eagles, not because of what we traded him for, but because we don't have the contested depth in our midfield to exploit an extremely outside player in Jetta. We have too many outside players as it is, so adding Jetta has just exacerbated our flaws.

 

[WCErevival]

I can't see McGinnity being dropped either. Comes down to Hill or Jetta I reckon. I'd be happy for Hill to play.

He still might be dropped. He only came in because Hill went out. He said after the game that he knows where he is at with the team and accepts it. If we aren't looking at keeping him beyond this year then we may just drop him. I would feel sorry for him if they did.