Preview Changes vs Richmond

[AsterixTheGaul]

Looking like a wet day. Apart from Vardy, not sure what that will mean on selection.

Possibly means Petruccelle reduces his chances. Rotham has been decent in the wet of late but only at the expense of a taller defender meaning Schofield but not likely

 

[onebillsdrive]

I've got an extended bench in my pants.

Wanna sit on it?

Sound like Herbert from Family Guy

 

[Candiru]

7 Defenders
Hurn, Sheppard, Barrass, McGovern, Jetta and Schofield with Nelson or Rotham to be added

7 Forwards
Darling, Kennedy, Rioli, Ryan and Cripps with 2 of Waterman, Petruccelle and Cameron to be added

2 Ruck
Hickey and Allen with Vardy likely to miss

6 Mids
Shuey, Yeo, Gaff, Redden, Sheed with Hutching or Masten to be added

Seven little chipmunks twirling on a branch!

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Vardy

Vardy, you are $hitting me

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Let me get this right:

Out Hutchings and Hickey

In Masten and Kreuzer

 

[FKASC]

I’d like Schofield to stay simply because he has track record of lifting in crunch games.

Cameron for Petch, Masten for Waterman.

Waterman doesn’t strike me as a wet-weather player, ironically enough given his surname. Masten neither but he will offer more than JW.

Cameron needed for his tackling energy. Don’t think Petch will offer much in a scrappy tight game against Richmond.

 

[KERRPOW]

Even naming vardy in the extended squad is a pisstake

 

[Gaffy Duck]

Even naming vardy in the extended squad is a pisstake

Please Jesus H Christ no

 

[KERRPOW]

Please Jesus H Christ no

Surely

 

[Gaffy Duck]

Surely

Yeah you’d think..

MC: it’s forecast to rain.. sounds like a good day to play 2 rucks and Oscar, with one ruck being badly out of form

 

[wirrathunda]

I’d like Schofield to stay simply because he has track record of lifting in crunch games.

Cameron for Petch, Masten for Waterman.

Waterman doesn’t strike me as a wet-weather player, ironically enough given his surname. Masten neither but he will offer more than JW.

Cameron needed for his tackling energy. Don’t think Petch will offer much in a scrappy tight game against Richmond.

I agree with you 100%. Schoey has to stay. He’s great once the ball hits the ground and also great and grabbing the ball and running it into out forward half. Sometimes it almost seems like the oppo don’t expect that and he
Leaves them behind. Great to watch.

Also agree with Petch. Maybe leave him out for this one. His skills were poor last game...just imagine if it’s wet this weekend. Hmm. Cameron will offer a much better defensive effort against their fleet of small forwards.

 

[Pottering]

I'm saying, if we were to disregard this pattern, who would we even bring in?

You guys seem to think Hutchings is a week by week proposition. You say things like "if he doesn't tag, he doesn't play". But the reality is that it's been 30+ weeks of picking him. And it's not clear that there are any better options waiting in the wings.

With someone in the opposition worth tagging virtually every week then Hutchings definitely has a role. I haven't any qualms about that. But, if he isn't tagging, what do you think he should be doing? As for options I gave you two. You don't have to agree but it seems you have dismissed those summarily. If you can offer some evidence of Hutchings performing a non tagging role I'd be Keen to hear it.

 

[Candiru]

With someone in the opposition worth tagging virtually every week then Hutchings definitely has a role. I haven't any qualms about that. But, if he isn't tagging, what do you think he should be doing?

Playing as a defensively minded midfielder even if he's not doing a hardcore "tag".

Which teams do not have a single player who's at least worth curtailing, if not "tagging"? There's always going to be a player we should put extra work into.

Hutchings isn't flashy but he's suited to finals.

 

[Pottering]

Playing as a defensively minded midfielder even if he's not doing a hardcore "tag".

Which teams do not have a single player who's at least worth curtailing, if not "tagging"? There's always going to be a player we should put extra work into.

Hutchings isn't flashy but he's suited to finals.

Which brings us neatly back to my point , he's a tagger pure and simple. We already have Yeo and Redden who are accountable midfielders who can be damaging in their own right, we don't No one to tag then I think he's a liability, which has been shown when for reasons only Simpson knows, he's played him in a non tagging role.

Playing as a defensively minded midfielder even if he's not doing a hardcore "tag".

Which teams do not have a single player who's at least worth curtailing, if not "tagging"? There's always going to be a player we should put extra work into.

Hutchings isn't flashy but he's suited to finals.

Because in finals, eg against a Sidebottom, a hard tag will be beneficial, as we know. With Yeo and Redden we have enough "defensively minded midfielders" who can attack as well. Hutchings offensive game isn't at that level.

 

[Candiru]

Which brings us neatly back to my point , he's a tagger pure and simple. We already have Yeo and Redden who are accountable midfielders who can be damaging in their own right, we don't No one to tag then I think he's a liability, which has been shown when for reasons only Simpson knows, he's played him in a non tagging role.
Because in finals, eg against a Sidebottom, a hard tag will be beneficial, as we know. With Yeo and Redden we have enough "defensively minded midfielders" who can attack as well. Hutchings offensive game isn't at that level.

I'm not sure this responds to my post.

Even if not tagging, Hutchings can justify his spot as a defensively minded midfielder.

Not sure how that "brings us back to your point".

You suggest Ah Chee, despite him apparently not being seriously in the midfield mix. And Nelson, despite him being used as a defender, aside from one game when he took Oliver.

Those aren't very compelling alternatives.

If we had more midfield depth, there might be a real debate to be had here. But we've got our top tier and not much underneath. There's no 23-year-old pushing for Hutchings' spot. It's Hutchings or Masten or guys you suggest who don't really play midfield.

 

[squashface]

I'm not sure this responds to my post.

Even if not tagging, Hutchings can justify his spot as a defensively minded midfielder.

Not sure how that "brings us back to your point".

You suggest Ah Chee, despite him apparently not being seriously in the midfield mix. And Nelson, despite him being used as a defender, aside from one game when he took Oliver.

Those aren't very compelling alternatives.

He is saying that Redden and Yeo have the ability to be a defensive mid without going full tag so if Hutchings isn’t tagging then someone more attacking, like Masten could be brought in.

 

[Pottering]

I'm not sure this responds to my post.

Even if not tagging, Hutchings can justify his spot as a defensively minded midfielder.

Not sure how that "brings us back to your point".

You suggest Ah Chee, despite him apparently not being seriously in the midfield mix. And Nelson, despite him being used as a defender, aside from one game when took Oliver.

Those aren't very compelling alternatives.

Our disagreement is simple, you say Hutchingscan justify his spot as a defensively minded midfielder, I disagree. I say he is only in the side if he tags, you disagree. I base my call on games where he hasn't hard tagged and has looked out of place. Show me some games where h

He is saying that Redden and Yeo have the ability to be a defensive mid without going full tag so if Hutchings isn’t tagging then someone more attacking, like Masten could be brought in.

Someone more attacking yes, Masten I did not specify!

 

[Candiru]

He is saying that Redden and Yeo have the ability to be a defensive mid without going full tag so if Hutchings isn’t tagging then someone more attacking, like Masten could be brought in.

He's not saying Masten should come in. He prefers Ah Chee or Nelson.

If you reckon Masten is a better option to Hutchings, by all means make that case. I haven't seen much evidence this year of Masten's "attacking" play. We've picked him for his run, ostensibly for structural purposes in our rolling zone and to get on the end of a switch by foot.

 

[Candiru]

Our disagreement is simple, you say Hutchingscan justify his spot as a defensively minded midfielder, I disagree. I say he is only in the side if he tags, you disagree.

And you offer players who don't play midfield as alternatives.

 

[squashface]

Someone more attacking yes, Masten I did not specify!

Yeah Masten was more my suggestion on top of your reasoning

 

[Pottering]

And you offer players who don't play midfield as alternatives.

Ah Chee isn't a midfielder! That would be news to a lot of people.

 

[Pottering]

Yeah Masten was more my suggestion on top of your reasoning

Fair enough, but if he doesn't play I don't shed too many years.

 

[Candiru]

Ah Chee isn't a midfielder! That would be news to a lot of people.

We've played him as a high HF.

I like Ah Chee and wish we'd seen more of him but I don't expect him to feature in our midfield rotations this season.

I mean, do you think Ah Chee is best 22? Because that's effectively what you'd be arguing at this stage.

Duggan dislodges Nelson. Naitanui dislodges Waterman or Petruccelle. And that's our best 22. And you reckon Ah Chee is in there?

 

[Keys]

 

[Candiru]

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In this meme analogy, you're the weird old man walking into a girlie bar wearing slippers and a hat?

If you insist.

But analogies are generally not just straightforward statements about what's already literally the case. Just saying, Keyser No-Sockz-e.