Prediction Changes vs Tiges

[Go Woods]

We are going to really struggle to contain Lynch next week.

Moore will be all over him.

 

[Lonerism]

Sier won’t play.

 

[soreplums]

Moore will be all over him.

Moore and Roughhead seem natural match ups on Reiwoldt and Lynch. If Moore takes Lynch, he will be able to run off him and create more attack, but if that happens, Reiwoldt might be too quick and agile for Roughhead.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Out: Throw out the bath water.

In: sier, Greenwood

Play Darcy forward, we have a big bloke who could kick 50-70 goals and wreak havoc but we play him down back.

We have enough mid/tall down there already. They will just keep getting in each other’s way.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Sier won’t play.

Why not? Wasn’t he emergency for this game?

 

[Darkyprotector]

( 1 bigs, 2 runners, 2 interceptors ,


We have to get creative again

We have no run down back apart from crisp
We have. No aerial prescence forward apart from mason and Jamie

We lacked strength in the guts and lots of blokes are underdone
Sideys weakness is tagging which frees up poor disposers to get ball ( too much) , pendels ?


Poor performances are not to be tolerated

Gotta keep a few blokes in some positions

We dont need 4 interceptors

Throw it around

Ins
I think we need a extra small down back
Love iq but I'll go with apples
Moving Howe to wing
Moving Maynard to wing

Appleby roughy. Langdon

Crisp. Moore. Treloer

Howe. Maynard. Mayne

Daicos. Pendels. Elliott

Stepho cox. Varcoe

Grundy. De goey beams

Greenwood. Goldsack. Aish. Sidey

Ins
Greenwood
Appleby
Goldsack
Daicos
Outs
Checkers
Thomas
Phillips
Brown

Think pendels should be tried in other spots and provide support
Need Howe wing to provide both way coverage ( keeps Langdon in)

Gotta get guys who can take a hit inside the guts hence Maynard and jordy and pig

Varcoe deep crumbing

Treleor provides run back
Appleby locks down on Higgins or riolli

Small forward line with Howe drifting in

Langdon keeps his spot for now

Last night showed why sack should play

WE DONT DEFEND THE SPACE , hit up City

 

[Scodog10]

It was pretty clear we didn’t quite get it right at selection this week. It was marginal, just like the game itself, but a number of guys will be better for the run. I would go:

Out: Brown and Aish
In: Sier/ Wills and Goldsack

The rationale being to free up Moore, who was fine when engaged by Sav, but awesome when able to free wheel. That will come with experience in the role (he’s what 10 games into his career as a KPD). Goldsack in to mind Reiwoldt and Roughead to Lynch gives him greater flexibility.

Through the midfield v Richmond another big body on the inside is key to give us more presence at the stoppages. We were beaten up on the inside last night as expected.

What I think we’ll go with though:

Out: Brown
In: Greenwood

I think we went in with a couple too many underdone (Howe, JDG and Crisp were not rock hard match fit) and the millionaire routine of Phillips was frustrating to watch, but the flipside of that is with a firm review we can build on it. We must win one of the next two or top 4 is all but gone so I hope we can bounce back from the wasted opportunities of last night...

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

We need run.
In Quaynor
Out Degoey (not fit)

Agreed.

Also out Moore/Cox
In Crocker.

Give the team far more agility and run.

 

[jmac70]

Dropping De Goey after round 1.

Hilarious

 

[whiskeytown]

In: Greenwood
Out: Brown

Brown was missing last night A Blair like performance of 10 touches, lots of pressure acts resulting in few tackles and a goal. At least Greenwood will take Cotchin or similiar out of the game

 

[LuckyLee]

Long time reader, first time poster.

Biggest change needed is not personnel but speed of ball movement. We were so deplorably slow in moving the ball forward. So many short sideways kicks and handballs to stationary team-mates that padded the stats sheets of Phillips, Pendles, Mayne and Sidey but added nothing other than giving Cats more time to flood back and choke our forward line.

We are a dynamic, high scoring team when we get it in really quickly either one-out to Cox or into space for our mobile forwards to run onto. Last night it was so congested in our F50, giving our runners no space and making it easy to double- or triple-team Cox.

Also, I don’t rate Phillips at all. Opposition coaches happy for him to get 30+ touches because his disposals hurt us more than them. He may be a great runner but he is the worst kick on our list. He’s a left-foot version of Josh Smith. And I just don’t see what Cal Brown offers other than the romance of being the son of a Club legend.

We need Adams and WHE asap but unless they’re available for me it’s:

OUT Brown Phillips Varcoe
IN Greenwood Sier Daicos

GO PIES!


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[76woodenspooners]

i know i might be going a little early on this one but i like to be ahead of the pack.... i think we should think about dropping buckley....

OK, OK, You win ...

... let’s go back to Waislitz.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

And I just don’t see what Cal Brown offers other than the romance of being the son of a Club legend.

Cal Brown looked a great prospect in his first games, though his lack of size was apparent. Now he seems to have lost even those early performance skills and attributes. As you say, he offers little more than romance and nostalgia.

 

[jmac70]

Long time reader, first time poster.

Biggest change needed is not personnel but speed of ball movement. We were so deplorably slow in moving the ball forward. So many short sideways kicks and handballs to stationary team-mates that padded the stats sheets of Phillips, Pendles, Mayne and Sidey but added nothing other than giving Cats more time to flood back and choke our forward line.

We are a dynamic, high scoring team when we get it in really quickly either one-out to Cox or into space for our mobile forwards to run onto. Last night it was so congested in our F50, giving our runners no space and making it easy to double- or triple-team Cox.

Also, I don’t rate Phillips at all. Opposition coaches happy for him to get 30+ touches because his disposals hurt us more than them. He may be a great runner but he is the worst kick on our list. He’s a left-foot version of Josh Smith. And I just don’t see what Cal Brown offers other than the romance of being the son of a Club legend.

We need Adams and WHE asap but unless they’re available for me it’s:

OUT Brown Phillips Varcoe
IN Greenwood Sier Daicos

GO PIES!


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I wouldn’t be dropping Phillips or Varcoe, but I agree with you on our ball movement.

We fell for the Geelong flood again. Needed to move it fast!

 

[76woodenspooners]

It would not be a small shock to bring in Crocker it would be massive. As far as I’m concerned he should rot in the VFL and the only time he should be on an AFL ground is when he holds the banner up for them to run through.

A tad harsh.

People were saying much same about Mayne only a year ago.

For all Crocker’s weaknesses (slow, struggles to win 1v1) he is a strong mark, kicks straight, gets in the right positions.

An aside might be a small shock dropping of Thomas for Crocker?
Doubt they’d pull this trigger at this stage but this could be the shock at selection.

I reckon Thomas will be given a chance to get back into form, but it’ll be re-evaluated when WHE is available in a few weeks.

 

[magpies42]

Out: Aish, Brown, Varcoe
In: ?

Don’t get Varcoe or Aish. Might be worth persevering with Brown, don’t want to break his confidence.

I think goldsack should come in.

 

[magpies42]

If Sier is deemed ready then he comes in for Brown. If not then Greenwood.

Sier averages close to 20 disposals per game and his ratio of contested to uncontested is higher than all our other midfielders.

Adams is second best and those two missing hurts us at the coal face.

With Elliott returning one wonders whether Varcoe is a luxury we can live without especially once Hoskin-Elliott and Adams are right to go.

It was your typical Varcoe game tonight, he produces some eye catching moments but fumbled a couple of times also that were costly.

Finished the night with just 9 disposals, 0 goals, 1 goal assist, 4 tackles, 1 1% and a lowly 37 metres gained.

Nobody fumbles more than Greenwood, and sier had a shocker yesterday. I think Goldsack in, not sure for who there were many bad performances but I think stephenson or Maynard

 

[Scodog10]

Don’t get Varcoe or Aish. Might be worth persevering with Brown, don’t want to break his confidence.

I think goldsack should come in.

Team balance > an individual players confidence

Team balance wasn’t right last night with too many sub 180cm smalls (JT, Varcoe, Brown and Elliott). One of that group should be demoted. Varcoe and JT have credits in the bank, IMO.

 

[LuckyLee]

Reflecting further on last night, our F50 was either impossibly crowded or totally empty.

The former is a function of really slow ball movement, while the latter is a function of our forwards pushing too far up the ground and not having the speed/fitness/effort to sprint back when we win a turnover. There’s nothing worse than watching us win the ball on the HBF or wing, only to look up and see nobody to kick it to.

Both scenarios are extremely frustrating viewing but quite easily fixed if the coaches pull the correct levers at training.


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[dingoboy]

Rowdy amd Varcoe had stinkers.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Long time reader, first time poster.

Welcome

Biggest change needed is not personnel but speed of ball movement. We were so deplorably slow in moving the ball forward. So many short sideways kicks and handballs to stationary team-mates that padded the stats sheets of Phillips, Pendles, Mayne and Sidey but added nothing other than giving Cats more time to flood back and choke our forward line.

There were times when our ball movement was lighting speed ...

... but that relied on us running forward and hitting our targets ...

... but when we missed our targets (as happened often last night to both teams - the ball was greasy and it was round 1) we were found out of position and so got smashed on the counter.

We are a dynamic, high scoring team when we get it in really quickly either one-out to Cox or into space for our mobile forwards to run onto. Last night it was so congested in our F50, giving our runners no space and making it easy to double- or triple-team Cox.

We didn’t have the skills last night to get it into our forward 50 as often as we should have. It was a bit like wet weather football.

Also, I don’t rate Phillips at all. Opposition coaches happy for him to get 30+ touches because his disposals hurt us more than them. He may be a great runner but he is the worst kick on our list. He’s a left-foot version of Josh Smith.

Sure, it wasn’t his greatest game ...

... but he surprised no-one when he polled sixth in last year’s Copeland. He’ll be right.

And I just don’t see what Cal Brown offers other than the romance of being the son of a Club legend.

It was only his 14th game and he’s had better games.

We need Adams and WHE asap ...

+1

 

[magpies42]

Team balance > an individual players confidence

Team balance wasn’t right last night with too many sub 180cm smalls (JT, Varcoe, Brown and Elliott). One of that group should be demoted. Varcoe and JT have credits in the bank, IMO.

Fair point. But it did work last year and I also think the issue was less about balance and more about poor execution. I could deal with Brown being dropped but would be concerned about what that does to his head space. He was poor in JLT 1, came back a lot better in the second game.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I know how everyone eagerly awaits my ins and outs.. floating in floatation and shit like that..

Well I'm at the Broady dishlickers having a few bets downing pints and scooners. Getting my mind off lasts nights game.

Then I'm off to see the might mare winx in her penultimate race at Calder Park in the Fosters Lavazza Classic. Might leave a lil early to view her in the stables to bar up a bit re.

Will post my changes soon.. so please.. don't flood my inbox.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Reflecting further on last night, our F50 was either impossibly crowded or totally empty.

The former is a function of really slow ball movement, while the latter is a function of our forwards pushing too far up the ground and not having the speed/fitness/effort to sprint back when we win a turnover.

Late in the game when our players ran out of puff, sure. But earlier in the game our forwards were finding space.

Elliott’s second goal

Treloar’s goal

DeGoey fluffed one of those occasions.

There were others

 

[LuckyLee]

Welcome



There were times when our ball movement was lighting speed ...

... but that relied on us running forward and hitting our targets ...

... but when we missed our targets (as happened often last night to both teams - the ball was greasy and it was round 1) we were found out of position and so got smashed on the counter.



We didn’t have the skills last night to get it into our forward 50 as often as we should have. It was a bit like wet weather football.



Sure, it wasn’t his greatest game ...

... but he surprised no-one when he polled sixth in last year’s Copeland. He’ll be right.



It was only his 14th game and he’s had better games.



+1

Thanks for the welcome. I enjoy reading your thoughts and analysis.

In response to your points....

It surprised the hell out of me that Phillips polled 6th in our B&F. Too much emphasis on his possession totals rather than their efficacy.

You say we didn’t get the ball into F50 enough but in Q2 we got it in there 19 times before scoring our first goal for the quarter. The problem mostly was that our F50 was totally congested, giving our forwards no time or space to create goals.

Re Cal Brown I’m just not seeing it. Compare his first 14 games to those of DeGoey, Stephenson, Sier, Maynard, Moore, etc all of whom added immediate value and structural importance. If we’re going to develop another small forward/mid, Daicos seems to me to offer more class and impact than Brown.

Anyway, that’s just my 2 cents worth!


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