Preview Changes Vs Tiggers round 12

[Suma Magic]

Barrass looks the same height as McInnes.

McGovern isn't here so can't provide scale.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Cripps, Hill are also capable of contributing with mids like Shuey, Yeo and our two rucks noted goal kickers.

Hope to see Hill and Cripps kick more goals again after only 2 between them in the last 2 games.

 

[Karim Abdul Yeo]

any chance yeo will lose another tooth at the G?? sidebet on this??

 

[Johnno22]

any chance yeo will lose another tooth at the G?? sidebet on this??

Better that Vickery lost one completing the image of a toothless Tiger.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

any chance yeo will lose another tooth at the G?? sidebet on this??

That only happened because he forgot to put his mouthguard back in in after a shot at goal (iirc), surely he won't forget again.

 

[DrMike]

Don't buy into the 6 day break thing too much, clubs heading into the bye can give that extra bit more because they don't have to back it up the following week. If the game is close at 3QT, back your boys in. Not only that but you've got some fresh names to add some rested foundation to the team. The trick for winning is forcing your game style to work against us. Make sure we're kicking it high and long into our forward line, get first use in your midfield, apply continuous pressure for 4 quarters. Doesn't matter what our forward make up is if you deny us getting it there.

That said it's also the key for us winning. If we control the ball, lower our eyes and play tempo footy like we have been the last 4 weeks while applying pressure back onto you then it should put us in good stead.

Either way it should be a good indication of how both teams are travelling, not for the result but the effort and desire they show.

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[Off Tap]

Don't buy into the 6 day break thing too much, clubs heading into the bye can give that extra bit more because they don't have to back it up the following week.

That's a pretty easy thing for a Victorian supporter to say, your team doesn't travel over 80,000km's in a season

 

[DrMike]

That's a pretty easy thing for a Victorian supporter to say, your team doesn't travel over 80,000km's in a season

My team also doesn't have one of the most successful home grounds in the competition

They're professional sports-persons, they might be sore but it won't be from 6 day breaks or travel, it'll be because they give their all in the contest

 

[The Falcon Strike]

My team also doesn't have one of the most successful home grounds in the competition

You do realise the counter argument to that of course....

We get say 10 games with the advantage, 2 games equal and 10 games disadvantaged - net sum = 0

Pretty much the same as every other side - though the make up might be 5 with adv, 12 neutral, 5 with disadv for the tigers

 

[DrMike]

You do realise the counter argument to that of course....

We get say 10 games with the advantage, 2 games equal and 10 games disadvantaged - net sum = 0

Pretty much the same as every other side - though the make up might be 5 with adv, 12 neutral, 5 with disadv for the tigers

MCG isn't an advantage for any team, yes it's our home deck but all teams are expected to play there if they want to win the Grand Final

That said we play 4 interstate teams there, West Coast, GWS, Fremantle, Gold Coast
10 against neutral teams at the MCG, 2 neutral at Etihad (one includes home against North which is their home ground, so angry)
5 travelling away games, 1 away game against North Melbourne in Hobart
That's 4-12-6 using your model, or 4-11-7 if I were being somewhat bias about the North home game at Etihad
So it's not "even"

Of course, we don't travel every second week and you guys do, but doesn't that also mean you're more conditioned to travel compared to other teams?

 

[The Falcon Strike]

MCG isn't an advantage for any team, yes it's our home deck but all teams are expected to play there if they want to win the Grand Final

That said we play 4 interstate teams there, West Coast, GWS, Fremantle, Gold Coast
10 against neutral teams at the MCG, 2 neutral at Etihad (one includes home against North which is their home ground, so angry)
5 travelling away games, 1 away game against North Melbourne in Hobart
That's 4-12-6 using your model, or 4-11-7 if I were being somewhat bias about the North home game at Etihad
So it's not "even"

Of course, we don't travel every second week and you guys do, but doesn't that also mean you're more conditioned to travel compared to other teams?

So you don't think a ground that we play on perhaps twice a season is and you play on perhaps 14 times doesn't provide an advantage?

Spare me...

 

[DrMike]

So you don't think a ground that we play on perhaps twice a season is and you play on perhaps 14 times doesn't provide an advantage?

Spare me...

Might want to check our win loss record at the MCG this year

 

[FatPizza]

Might want to check our win loss record at the MCG this year

Just means you didn't lose by as much.

 

[LordHaart]

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[lmach]

Freo probably thought that, and Vickery kicked a game high 3 goals. He's no star, but he's 200cm, about 98kg, a great set shot for goal and a good mover for his size. If you don't pay him respect with a decent opponent on that basis alone, he will kick 2-3 which will hurt.

We should bring in McGinnity to play on Vickery just to show him how much we disrespect him.

 

[LordHaart]

We should bring in McGinnity to play on Vickery's Mum just to show him how much we disrespect him.

FTFY.

 

[PerthBoy87]

Richmond vs West Coast: Head-To-Head


Overall: Played - 39, Richmond: 16, West Coast: 23

Richmond Home Record: Played 22 - won: 12, lost: 10

Richmond Away Record: Played 17 - won: 4, lost: 13

West Coast Home Record: Played 17 – won: 13, lost: 4

West Coast Away Record: Played 22 – won: 10, lost: 12

Richmond vs West Coast - Record at Grounds:

• · MCG: Played 14 – Richmond: 7, West Coast 7

• · Princes Park (Optus Oval, now known as Visy Park): Played 2 - Richmond: 1, West Coast 1

• · Waverly Park: Played 2 – Richmond: 1, West Coast 1

• · Colonial Stadium (Telstra Dome, now known as Etihad Stadium): Played 4 – Richmond 3, West Coast 1

• · Subiaco (Paterson’s Stadium, now known as Domain Stadium): Played 17 – Richmond 4, West Coast 13

Since 2000: Richmond: 9, West Coast: 10

Past 5 Games: Richmond: 3, West Coast: 2

Past 5 Seasons (2010-2014): Richmond: 3, West Coast: 2

Last Time They Met: Round 18, 2014: Richmond:8.11 (59) defeated West Coast: 6.6 (42) – Paterson’s Stadium

Quirky Stat: The last time West Coast defeated Richmond at the MCG was round 5, 2007. However this stat could be interpreted as being irrelevant because since that game the Tigers and Eagles have played each other nine times with six of these games being at Domain Stadium and the remaining three being – two at Etihad and only one at the MCG - and that was round 12, 2010 where Jack Riewoldt kicked ten goals as the Tigers ran away with the game to win by 49 points. Interestingly – the last time Richmond beat West Coast in Melbourne was round 12, 2010 at the MCG. Since that MCG game the Tigers and Eagles have played each other four times with three of the games being in WA and one game being in Victoria.


All Games - Richmond vs West Coast:

Round 1, 1987: West Coast: 20.13 (133) defeated Richmond: 16.23 (119) – Subiaco

Round 14, 1987: Richmond: 9.19 (73) defeated West Coast: 9.15 (69) – MCG

Round 10, 1988: Richmond: 16.20 (102) defeated West Coast: 10.15 (75) – MCG

Round 7, 1989: Richmond: 13.14 (92) defeated West Coast: 13.12 (90) – Waverly Park

Round 18, 1989: West Coast: 19.16 (130) defeated Richmond: 10.19 (79) – Subiaco

Round 6, 1990: West Coast: 15.13 (103) defeated Richmond: 9.14 (68) – MCG

Round 19, 1990: West Coast: 22.21 (153) defeated Richmond: 16.9 (105) – Subiaco

Round 11, 1991: West Coast: 17.15 (117) defeated Richmond: 12.8 (80) – Waverly Park

Round 6, 1992: West Coast: 14.12 (96) defeated Richmond: 14.13 (97) – MCG

Round 21, 1992: West Coast: 15.14 (104) defeated Richmond: 12.12 (84) – Subiaco

Round 3, 1993: West Coast: 15.19 (109) defeated Richmond: 9.11 (65) – Subiaco

Round 18, 1993: West Coast: 15.10 (100) defeated Richmond: 11.15 (81) – Princes Park

Round 3, 1994: West Coast: 20.15 (135) defeated Richmond: 5.9 (39) – MCG

Round 18, 1994: West Coast: 14.17 (101) defeated Richmond: 7.11 (53) – Subiaco

Round 11, 1995: Richmond: 18.15 (123) defeated West Coast: 9.9 (63) – Optus Oval

Round 14, 1996: West Coast: 10.8 (68) defeated Richmond: 7.9 (51) – MCG

Round 8, 1997: Richmond: 18.11 (119) defeated West Coast: 9.13 (67) – MCG

Round 5, 1998: Richmond: 12.14 (86) defeated West Coast: 10.11 (71) – MCG

Round 20, 1998: West Coast: 16.16 (112) defeated Richmond 11.7 (73) – Subiaco

Round 15, 1999: Richmond: 16.8 (104) defeated West Coast: 11.9 (75) – MCG

Round 9, 2000: Richmond: 11.13 (79) defeated West Coast: 9.16 (70) – Colonial Stadium

Round 5, 2001: Richmond: 17.7 (109) defeated West Coast: 11.4 (70) – Subiaco

Round 20, 2001: Richmond: 20.18 (138) defeated West Coast: 10.13 (73) – Colonial Stadium

Round 8, 2002: Richmond: 13.16 (94) defeated West Coast: 10.13 (73) – MCG

Round 9, 2003: West Coast: 18.16 (124) defeated Richmond: 11.6 (72) – Subiaco

Round 10, 2004: West Coast: 14.15 (100) defeated Richmond: 9.9 (63) – Subiaco

Round 11, 2005: West Coast: 15.13 (105) defeated Richmond: 15.12 (103) – MCG

Round 3, 2006: West Coast: 20.16 (136) defeated Richmond: 14.6 (90) – Subiaco

Round 22, 2006: West Coast: 26.17 (173) defeated Richmond: 12.13 (85) – MCG

Round 5, 2007: West Coast: 14.15 (99) defeated Richmond: 11.10 (76) – MCG

Round 20, 2007: West Coast: 18.9 (117) defeated Richmond: 12.14 (86) – Subiaco

Round 15, 2008: Richmond: 24.8 (152) defeated West Coast: 11.9 (75) – Subiaco

Round 12, 2009: Richmond: 13.14 (92) defeated West Coast: 11.11 (77) – Telstra Dome

Round 22, 2009: West Coast: 17.23 (125) defeated Richmond: 6.9 (45) – Subiaco

Round 12, 2010: Richmond: 19.12 (126) defeated West Coast: 11.11 (77) – MCG

Round 20, 2011: West Coast: 22.15 (147) defeated Richmond: 14.6 (90) – Paterson’s Stadium

Round 5, 2012: West Coast: 16.11 (107) defeated Richmond: 14.13 (97) – Etihad Stadium

Round 10, 2013: Richmond: 16.7 (103) defeated West Coast: 8.14 (62) – Paterson’s Stadium

Round 18, 2014: Richmond: 8.11 (59) defeated West Coast: 6.6 (42) – Paterson’s Stadium

 

[Keys]

Might want to check our win loss record at the MCG this year

Well you're 1-0 at subi this year so I guess there's no disadvantage for you there

 

[bluengold89]

Don't buy into the 6 day break thing too much, clubs heading into the bye can give that extra bit more because they don't have to back it up the following week.

So you don't believe that a club that has two consecutive 6 day breaks after travelling perth to tas, tas to perth and then perth to melbourne is disadvantaged? Yet in the same sentence you state that you believe that a club heading into the bye has the ability to put in that 'little bit extra'?

That is absolutely ridiculous.

"Hey boys, we're down by 5 points with 3 minutes left, but we've got a game to prepare for next week. Let's pack it in and leave some in the tank!"

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

My team also doesn't have one of the most successful home grounds in the competition

They're professional sports-persons, they might be sore but it won't be from 6 day breaks or travel, it'll be because they give their all in the contest

Our three decades of history tell us differently 6 days breaks always hurt us.
Especially considering the hours we spend on a plane.
Mean nearly all the players dont do track work during the week as there concentrating on recovery.

We generally start games slowly in the first quarter after six days break.

 

[Obeanie1]

Out: McGovern (possibly)
In: Barass (only if the Gov is out)

Sheed swaps the sub vest with Duggan.

No outs really.. I would think McGovern is more likely to line up than not.

Sounds about right to me. Duggan's last couple of weeks he has dropped off a tad. Starting to pick up a few sore spots maybe? A couple of knocks he's taken going in hard would floor a lessor man.

Sheed to start and Duggan to come on later and provide the spark we need to win by a point.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Duggan was seemingly caught everytime he got the ball on Saturday, so maybe the sub vest wouldn't be a bad idea, but hopefully only for a week. They need to rotate it around a bit more (excl. Yeo).

 

[DrMike]

So you don't believe that a club that has two consecutive 6 day breaks after travelling perth to tas, tas to perth and then perth to melbourne is disadvantaged? Yet in the same sentence you state that you believe that a club heading into the bye has the ability to put in that 'little bit extra'?

That is absolutely ridiculous.

"Hey boys, we're down by 5 points with 3 minutes left, but we've got a game to prepare for next week. Let's pack it in and leave some in the tank!"

My opinion is if your boys buy into being at a disadvantage due to the travel, then they've already lost. Elite sports is as much in the head as it is the training you do. They'll know their bodies, they'll know they'll get extra time to recover, they won't shirk a contest or stop running for the whole game, not just the last 3 minutes as in your example.

My intention is not to take away the fact you guys have travelled and have had short breaks.

 

[Tiggytigers]

Rance vs Kennedy will be interesting

 

[MIKE85]

I agree that we should be used to the travel by now, and I'm sure the more experienced players are. But the fact that only 1 WA based player has made it to 300 games in almost 30 years proves that the travel is a factor, even if it is only slowly over time.