Strategy Chappy says "Play Dangerfield as Permanent forward".

[Turbocat]

I suspect we all see different things. To my eye the quick Dangerfield entry was the most efficient path to goal in 2016. I want others to follow his decisive lead.

Perhaps we do... to me it say plenty about our general method if a Danger bomb was our most efficient path to goal.

Our slow movement , our version of the Freo crab was a bugbear of mine , I think I have said it consistently that I liked and wanted more run from our backline and less immobile players. It might have secured the ball but it made our entries quite often of a poor standard. CScott has said it often that he is D first coach, then in the same breath says we have to score more....but not at the cost of being burnt..which usually means back to less score.

To me , the speed of entry from Danger rather than the accurate dispossal gave our forwards a more even chance but not always what id call silver service. What id like to see is us to maximize his bursts , or at least increase our efficiency from them. GHS is slower and not the most polished yet he showed in the PS games how the type of clearance is possible if you are quick of mind. Ideally with Dangers speed , if someone like GHS could get the ball to him more on the outside it would be interesting to see if he could steady more often , to focus the pass a bit more or to actually have the shot , which is what I always liked guys like him and Ablett to do. 60 or 70 metres from Danger banging the goal on the run could see him at his most dangerous. To me Ablett with 3 or 4 goals and 20 was far better than his 40 plus with 1,2's on the backline.

I will say this. If we had more creative FP type that can make the most of a crumbed ball , Danger bombs would really up their rating as a weapon in my eyes.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Id agree , the slow build up is almost always the wrong choice ... but what id like to know is how many scoring opportunities were created from Dangers inside 50's. I doubt Hawkins had more than 5 to 10 setshots from a Danger ball. Even when Danger seemed to make good contact and put it to Hawkins advantage it just didn't seem to work out to often. Long or short , I hope his breaks create more scores in 2017.

Dangerfield had the best inside 50 retention in the league last year.
Mostly because of those "long bombs" were from direction clearances where defenses cant setup to win the ball back.
Like CE said though, slow build up then long bomb doesn't work.
Bomb with an open forwardline however is great.

 

[Turbocat]

Dangerfield had the best inside 50 retention in the league last year.
Mostly because of those "long bombs" were from direction clearances where defenses cant setup to win the ball back.
Like CE said though, slow build up then long bomb doesn't work.
Bomb with an open forwardline however is great.

Did his numbers stack up in finals? We need him have more influence yet we need to spread the load. Will be interesting to see how we handle that

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Did his numbers stack up in finals? We need him have more influence yet we need to spread the load. Will be interesting to see how we handle that

Not sure about finals, don't have the stats.
I think his influence is fine, like you said we need more from the others.
Now personally I love his long kick from the center clearance however I'd prefer him to use the ball smarter and share it around more when not in that position.
A few times he has blindly bombed it to zero advantage for our forwards, I'd prefer him (and the team in general) to hit up short leads, of course that also relies on forwards actually providing them and ball movement swift enough to allow room for them to do so.
Dangerfield to me right now is the long kicking version of Ablett. I'd like him to develop the shorter/sharing side of Abletts game too.

 

[Turbocat]

Not sure about finals, don't have the stats.
I think his influence is fine, like you said we need more from the others.
Now personally I love his long kick from the center clearance however I'd prefer him to use the ball smarter and share it around more when not in that position.
A few times he has blindly bombed it to zero advantage for our forwards, I'd prefer him (and the team in general) to hit up short leads, of course that also relies on forwards actually providing them and ball movement swift enough to allow room for them to do so.
Dangerfield to me right now is the long kicking version of Ablett. I'd like him to develop the shorter/sharing side of Abletts game too.

Pretty much in agreement... although Id like him to be running into the 50 and having a shot at goal.If others do more, then he has to have less ball and hopefully have just as much with less.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Pretty much in agreement... although Id like him to be running into the 50 and having a shot at goal.If others do more, then he has to have less ball and hopefully have just as much with less.

And would get more ball forward of center, he likes to head there and he gets rotated through there.
Remember Abletts... 2010?
Bulk goals as well as being our best midfielder.
We need Duncan, Cocky, Lang, Guthrie, Motlop and Menegola/Selwood to stand up and provide impact.
It looks great having Danger and Selwood average 30 touches a game but when the next best is 19 it's a slight on the team.
That's not in any way Danger or Selwoods fault either but a finger pointed directly at tier 2.

 

[Spazz Cat]

I don't think he's kicking action is really a problem.
The problem sometimes he just kicks it as absolutely long as he can. Is a bit hard to lead to that .
Broke the record for inside 50's last year with a game to go. Would be awesome if Duncan and Motlop were in a position to recieve from him and deliver around half of those.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Dangerfield is in his prime and is an elite midfielder. But our forward line works best when Dangerfield is up there. Hawkins, Paddy, Menzel, Motlop + 2 (Cocky, McCarthy?) would be pretty much the best forward line in the comp. But then the obvious question would be how can the midfield without Paddy deliver the ball to them?

Selwood is playing near his career best so that's part of the answer. But to replace Danger in the mids you need two players. One to extract it and another to run and carry/roost it into the forwards. Guthrie, Menegola and Scooter are the obvious inside mids to make up the difference. They should all be right to go before too long. Duncan and Murdoch can supply. But thinking laterally, I wonder if Stanley could be the extra outside mid to deliver into the forwards? Preuss killed us in the ruck this week but Stanley still got 7 clearances. Once he gets the ball he has the capacity to shrug off tackles and burst out of the pack and bang it long. Play Smith mainly in the ruck and Stanley as rover.

Keep Harry in the backline where he is a superstar.