Coach Chris Scott and Jeremy Cameron's broken arm incident.

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Starcevich head knock was the bigger issue in reality also. Took way too long to get him off. It’s also absurd if he doesn’t go to the concussion tribunal here also. It was a very soft knock that concussed him

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

It can get a lot worse. Fractured again in a different position due to weakened bone structure, risk of a compound fracture. Could be terrible.

Very easy to figure that out with an arm. I’d also suggest he wouldn’t be capable of going back on if he had the risk pf a compound fracture

 

[demondavey]

Very easy to figure that out with an arm. I’d also suggest he wouldn’t be capable of going back on if he had the risk pf a compound fracture

More that another big knock could cause something worse

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

More that another big knock could cause something worse

This is still more true of Dunkley playing through his foot issue than Cameron though.

 

[Munich]

Be interesting to know what Cameron was saying. We’re all brought up on the stories of GF heroics with injuries. Was he desperate to get back out there and be a hero, and so insisting he wasn’t subbed off?

Apparently was desperate to keep going.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Why do so many soccer mums follow aussie rules nowadays?

 

[BigRang]

Meh. Depends on how competitive you are and how much you think you can offer to the team I reckon. I broke my arm once playing basketball and kept playing, thought I’d sprained it. Held up my end on D and the boards even sunk a 3. When your warmed up and the bloods pumping it isn’t too bad. Woke up the next morning and my arm was swollen AF.
AFL players are professionals and play with pain all the time. He would have been assessed by the medicos and jabbed up nothing to see here I reckon.

 

[demondavey]

I think that a lot of this comes down to the player. The Doctors would know his arm was in a very bad way and as someone who has broken multiple arms I know the reaction to such incidents. It really hurts and you hold the arm like that. When it doesn’t get better pain wise over time and you’ve got no mobility, it’s rubber ducked.

Cameron would have said he was staying out, however given his ineffectiveness I’d have thought he had to come off for a fit Stanley. Not a great decision. Players play through pain non stop, they’re tougher than people think.

Aristotle Pickett interested to know your thoughts on McGovern playing in the 2018 GF given the seriousness of the injury.

 

[Dee Train]

I for one am disgusted that the Geelong Football Club have not issued a statement to the OP clarifying the situation. This should be their absolute priority at this time, to explain to a footy forum poster nuffy what the hell is going on. I wonder what qualifications the so called ‘doctor’ and entire medical team has….****ing amateurs!

 

[tropicaltiger]

Yes I am. Players play through pain all the time...it's broken it can't get any worse.

Concussion a different issue.

what is this nonsense, a strong chicken wing tackle would have made an excruciating and severe worsening of the already serious injury.

 

[FreoRicci]

It’s a broken arm, not internal injuries. Not like his life was in danger.

Having said that, I don’t know what the hell was going on with Geelong - they seemed all at sea and unable to make decisions. They were a mess.

Everybody watching the game was saying his arm is broken… the impact and the way he was carrying it. They just sit on it with him off the ground for ages. Just be decisive, make the bloody sub and get on with it. He wasn’t impacting the game anyway.

It was baffling.
It was still a close game. Surely 10 minutes max, you know his arm is broken, sub in Martin and put Stanley up forward.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

I think that a lot of this comes down to the player. The Doctors would know his arm was in a very bad way and as someone who has broken multiple arms I know the reaction to such incidents. It really hurts and you hold the arm like that. When it doesn’t get better pain wise over time and you’ve got no mobility, it’s rubber ducked.

Cameron would have said he was staying out, however given his ineffectiveness I’d have thought he had to come off for a fit Stanley. Not a great decision. Players play through pain non stop, they’re tougher than people think.

Aristotle Pickett interested to know your thoughts on McGovern playing in the 2018 GF given the seriousness of the injury.

What injury did he have?

 

[Yellow Feathers]

A lot of strange things happen down at Geelong let’s be honest.

 

[Wojcinski]

I'm keenly awaiting OP's post on Josh Dunkley

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Josh Dunkley

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playing through a syndesmosis injury that now requires surgery and looks like he still hasn't posted his concerns over Lachie Neale

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's plantar faschia injury from last years GF. Thanks for keeping the club doctors on their toes OP, you're the real hero

 

[demondavey]

What injury did he have?

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[FreddyTwoShoes]

Aristotle Pickett , was yesterday your best ever day?

It really sounds like it was.
Happy for you buddy.

 

[demondavey]

It was baffling.
It was still a close game. Surely 10 minutes max, you know his arm is broken, sub in Martin and put Stanley up forward.

You cannot play CHF with a broken arm, you cannot play any position with a broken arm. It’s probably the one thing along with a knee or ankle you can’t do. Needed to be off. Was a terrible call I reckon. He should have called it. Unsure how effective pain killing injections would have been. Mind you, considering Geelong didn’t win a clearance in the second half you could have substituted forwards for cardboard cut outs of Mike Tyson.

 

[SC_Power]

Yes I am. Players play through pain all the time...it's broken it can't get any worse.

Concussion a different issue.

Clearly Scott agrees with you, he played Cameron over a 100% fit player who was subbed off.
So even if this was accidentally broken in the warm up, Cameron still would have played surely, because he was the best option.

 

[Jeremias]

 

[Muddiemoose]

Don’t think they did anything wrong, he was off for a very long time suggesting that they examined it thoroughly

The doc(s) would of explained the risks of continuing to play and Cameron obviously backed himself in

Fair enough to have a broader discussion about how far individuals are willing to push themselves for a footy game but Cameron wasn’t alone

Ideally medically speaking Neale probably shouldn’t of played nor Dunkley

Plenty of footy folklore has been made off the backs of players suffering through injury to help achieve success

Ask any Richmond fan about Jack Grahams exploits in 2019

 

[Bald]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, I realise this is probably just Richmond v Geelong BigFooty nonsense, but if JC understood the risks of playing on and opted to anyway, then who is anyone else to get upset, he clearly wasn't asking not to be put back on.

We aren't talking about a player in their first or second season who may feel like he owes something to a team, or an injury that would otherwise impact ones ability to make decisions, it was a 32 year old man with a broken arm who decided to play on, it was courageous and probably a bit silly, that's it.

He should've been subbed off, but not for his welfare, he was clearly heavily compromised and I don't imagine he had a massively positive impact on the team as a whole (other than perhaps the courageous one armed tackle).

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

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Is that a think of the children meme?

 

[garlic munchers]

Ridiculous take.

Cameron is a grown man and the issue wasn't concussion and unable to make a call himself.

Maybe concussion was an issue?

 

[PhatBoy]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, I realise this is probably just Richmond v Geelong BigFooty nonsense, but if JC understood the risks of playing on and opted to anyway, then who is anyone else to get upset, he clearly wasn't asking not to be put back on.

We aren't talking about a player in their first or second season who may feel like he owes something to a team, or an injury that would otherwise impact ones ability to make decisions, it was a 32 year old man with a broken arm who decided to play on, it was courageous and probably a bit silly, that's it.

He should've been subbed off, but not for his welfare, he was clearly heavily compromised and I don't imagine he had a massively positive impact on the team as a whole (other than perhaps the courageous one armed tackle).

Just to refresh my memory and I THINK the memory of others in this thread:

Wasn’t that incident where the injury in its full ‘glory’ for want of a better term, actually happened? He injured it in that accidental clash with Dangerfield but was essentially functional to what I could see albeit a bit compromised. Then he made that tackle and fell heavily on the already injured arm and immediately got up holding it like he’d either busted it, or his shoulder/collarbone

 

[Osho]

Not really sure what Scott was complaining about regarding the sub rule. Cameron got injured 5 mins before half time, so he’s had roughly 25 mins to make a decision, in which he then said Cameron was right, even thought Stevie Wonder could see it was more than a bruise.

Chris was coping with a poor GF showing, and his own moves which didn't work as expected.