Roast Chris Tarrant is a Prick

[theGav56]

Tarrant did what he thought was best for him, Collingwood did what they thought was best for them, Freo got screwed, but we will screw other teams too when players want to come home, it WILL happen, we just need to realise that, let go, and get on with it (we won't forget it because what comes around comes around).

Unfortunately modern football is a business and players get a business mentality, there are some players still around who are clubmen and have moral fibre, but they are getting thin. Look at the difference between Ablett and Pav. Ablett went for the money over his club. Pav sees freo as HIS club, is a one club man, Pav will make as much money as Ablett because of his endorsements and adds based on his reputation. Who wants to listen to Ablett, no one in Qld knows him and no one in Geelong will listen to him.

Ablett is the way modern football is going, I don't like it, its not the game I grew up following, Pav is a breath of fresh air.

Money wise it would be difficult to argue Ablett would do as well staying at the Cattery. As well as his contract he will get captain and plenty of endorsements.

 

[Rob]

"Professional footballer" is just a title for the players daily occupation.

Would you be willing to work for an employer you do not want to just because you are seen as a "professional?"

Would I be willing? Of course not. But don't try and suggest that every other AFL club has a poison culture that would act as such a mighty deterrent. I can understand why any player may not want to go to a particular club, but 15? Get stuffed. Hell, 90% of draftees don't end up at their 1st choice employer. Do they then have an excuse for poor performance?

And if I ended up working with my 2nd or 3rd choice employer i'm not going to slack off and perform like an amateur. I don't know about Tarrant, but I still have personal pride in what I do. I'm not going to sulk and whine like a little girl about it all year.

 

[leungtl]

I wish Jack all the best and certainly won't call him a "PRICK" or wish him to break a leg.

Well, obviously it doesn't exactly hurt when a player outside your Best 22 leaves the club. If Ryan Murphy did the same thing to us I doubt you'd see a lot of people here caring.

Now Dane Swan on the other hand... you'd probably still be rioting in the streets right now.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

There was Hawthorn & Carlton on the table as well.It only became one club when Collingwood really wanted him.. Either way, so what if it was just Collingwood, Why on earth would a team not want to trade with a Premiership team/players?? We just have different points of view, however I think calling Chris a prick is unfair.

We can't trade a player without their consent. If Tarrant said it was Collingwood or retirement, we could negotiate with whoever we wanted til the cows came home, but it would mean nothing, as only 2/3 of the parties were in agreement.

 

[Geoff]

I wish Jack all the best and certainly won't call him a "PRICK" or wish him to break a leg.

No need to call JA a prick, you have already re-recruited one.

 

[Liam Boy]

He's not a prick, I know through family that he and his girlfriend couldn't stand life in WA and wanted to move back to Melbourne.

 

[Selggad]

He's not a prick, I know through family that he and his girlfriend couldn't stand life in WA and wanted to move back to Melbourne.

I will used to live next door to his cousin's au pair girl and she said he had a tiny one. And then my dogs groomer was married to the man who once sat next his manager on a bus and he thought Tarrant was a right c***head. Meanwhile I knew another bloke who once played a game of junior football in a town in Victoria and he knew another bloke who had married a bird...yadda yadda yadda.

Read the thread, mate, before posting inconsequential rubbish.

 

[rotto]

He's not a prick, I know through family that he and his girlfriend couldn't stand life in WA and wanted to move back to Melbourne.

His uncle told me that he was happy living in Perth.

 

[Bender571]

Also, you call "draft manipulation", yet you overlook just how you snared McPhee in the previous PSD. Why did the Dockers wait until trade week had concluded before showing any interest in McPhee? Why didn't they table an offer or at least declare their interest during trade week? Perhaps then, the Bombers could have got SOMETHING in return for a player they were about to lose for NOTHING. It's basically smart negotiating and use of the system in place to strengthen your bargaining power- something Freo (like everyone else would have done) did and something Collingwood did with Tarrant.

Its funny how so many Collingwood fans have become experts on the McPhee situation since the Tarrant situation

Do you actually have any idea about the McPhee situation or are you just parroting crap you've heard from other pie fans.

From what I've read Freo never targeted McPhee until after trade week when he said the PSD was an option. Prior to trade week McPhee intended to sign with the Bombers until they offered Mark Williams a three year contract. This combined with Knights forcing Johnson, Pevrill, Lloyd and Lucas to retire made McPhee think he needed a 3 year contract. Essendon, Melbourne and Richmond all could've had McPhee before Freo, where as Tarrant made sure that the only place he would play next year was at Collingwood

 

[Slattery_20]

Bender - do you really believe that Harvey hadn't contacted McPhee until post-trade week?

From what I've heard he was happy with our offer- 2 years + another based on games played; then went on holiday; then suddenly wouldn't sign with us.

Guys don't walk out on 2 year deals unless they know they're going to get something better elsewhere.
Hence why we never ever tried to trade him.
I put it to you that he had a sneaky look around.

Knights forced Lucas, Pev & Johnson to retire about as much as Clarkson forced Croad & Campbell to retire. Knights never got rid of anyone who could still run, JJ & Lucas etc were snorkelled

McPhee's put out a few different stories to why he wanted out.
First, Knights was making all the older guys retire (McVeigh, Fletch, Welsh & Hille would probably disagree)
Second, Harvey would guarantee him a game on the ball. Ever happen?
Next, it was Freo was a chance for finals (which he conveniently only said after you'd played finals, so I doubt that either; remembering when he signed we'd played a final and you were about 12th).

I think McPhee's being reasonably liberal with the truth.

 

[Selggad]

I have to agree with you Slatterly. All players, clubs and coaches manipulate events and situations to their advantage when and where possible. Essendon are entitled to be dark on mcPhee and many are, and Freo are entitled to be dark on tarrant.

 

[Slattery_20]

Exactly.
Cuts both ways is all I'm saying.
Win some and lose some, you're probably just ahead right now.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

I agree with you slattery, although mcphee did play predominantly midfield, i doubt that was the reason he left, I tend to think he just didnt like knights.'I can understand bombers supportersmbeing aggrieved

 

[Slattery_20]

My issue isn't that he left or even why, it's the way he didn't bother mentioning it before trade week - we lost something for nothing.

That's the dishonest part, that's where he was unprofessional

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

My issue isn't that he left or even why, it's the way he didn't bother mentioning it before trade week - we lost something for nothing.

That's the dishonest part, that's where he was unprofessional

Yeah I can understand that, most of us with taz accepted he was going, where we got bitter was how he went from "getting the best deal for the ffc" to "either get mento Collingwood or i retire"'it's not the action of leaving that pisses people off, it's the manner. Same goes with Josh Carr

 

[Bender571]

Bender - do you really believe that Harvey hadn't contacted McPhee until post-trade week?

Its almost impossible to know how the situation actually unfolded. However if we talked to him before the trade period it suggests that it was always the plan for McPhee to get to us via the PSD. I would like to think that Freo doesn't do business that way, and I wonder why McPhee would be so willing to screw over his former club and run the risk of being picked up by another club. From the sounds of the situation McPhee would've stayed at Essendon if he had a 3 year contract. So I don't buy into this secret plan idea..
I think the more likely scenario is that McPhee was set to make a 2 year contract but for some reason McPhee changed his mind and wanted a 3 year contract, Essendon wouldn't agree so he agent put word out that McPhee was looking to try and force Essendons hand and we experessed interest.

What I do know is that if I was in McPhees position I'd be upset that I was only offered 2 years whilst a player like Williams was offered 3 years

 

[peppy la pew]

What I do know is that if I was in McPhees position I'd be upset that I was only offered 2 years whilst a player like Williams was offered 3 years

And IMO there is the reason McPhee walked. Or at the very least made his mind up to head west.

As far as Tarrant goes, if his missus was homesick and miserable you could imagine the grief he would've copped. As far as we know CFC might have told Tarrant that they were compensating us with Jack A.
He was not to know we would refuse that trade.

Not that i know anything, just assuming.

 

[nipper]

And IMO there is the reason McPhee walked. Or at the very least made his mind up to head west.

As far as Tarrant goes, if his missus was homesick and miserable you could imagine the grief he would've copped. As far as we know CFC might have told Tarrant that they were compensating us with Jack A.
He was not to know we would refuse that trade.

Not that i know anything, just assuming.

You are on the right track... the "threats: Chris & manager stating he would go into the national draft if he could not go to Collingwood, were all at the tail end of the time frame. This is what I have been trying to say, a trade should have easily been done well before.. I don't think it was ever just a trade one player for another it was with picks as well??Trade with a Premership Club/players... Like I said before Harvey would not Negotiate, made it very difficult. Chris's wife was homesick but also Chris needed to return home for his own family reasons. I hope this is the end of name calling him a prick..

 

[Freo Shark]

You are on the right track... the "threats: Chris & manager stating he would go into the national draft if he could not go to Collingwood, were all at the tail end of the time frame. This is what I have been trying to say, a trade should have easily been done well before.. I don't think it was ever just a trade one player for another it was with picks as well??Trade with a Premership Club/players... Like I said before Harvey would not Negotiate, made it very difficult. Chris's wife was homesick but also Chris needed to return home for his own family reasons. I hope this is the end of name calling him a prick..

Bullshit!

The threats were being made\implied before and during the trade week. They came to a head late in the trade week and were then withdrawn after talk of it being trade tampering. What pisses supporters off he gave us all the talk he would do the best for us. But did the opposite for us.

No one resented him going home just the way he went about it with the lack of good faith.

 

[Chops_a_must]

This is only Tarrant's 2nd game for this club and 16 yr old to boot..., he now knows early the level he has to aspire to and higher. Watch him climb, watch him -- just watch him.

Say hello to tarrants brother everyone.

You are on the right track... the "threats: Chris & manager stating he would go into the national draft if he could not go to Collingwood, were all at the tail end of the time frame. This is what I have been trying to say, a trade should have easily been done well before.. I don't think it was ever just a trade one player for another it was with picks as well??Trade with a Premership Club/players... Like I said before Harvey would not Negotiate, made it very difficult. Chris's wife was homesick but also Chris needed to return home for his own family reasons. I hope this is the end of name calling him a prick..

Hola ****wit!

Are you getting a game yet or are you still too shithouse?

And what were these "family reasons"? You being a complete and utter soft ****? That would sound about right.

As to the "prick" thing. If genetics are anything to go by: you're a ****ing moron and a prick clearly, so therefore he should have little bit of that as well.

 

[nipper]

Hola ****wit!

Are you getting a game yet or are you still too shithouse?

And what were these "family reasons"? You being a complete and utter soft ****? That would sound about right.

As to the "prick" thing. If genetics are anything to go by: you're a ****ing moron and a prick clearly, so therefore he should have little bit of that as well.

You must be a "kid" to respond like that. Do you really think AFL players write into this or even read it....?

 

[nipper]

Bullshit!

The threats were being made\implied before and during the trade week. They came to a head late in the trade week and were then withdrawn after talk of it being trade tampering. What pisses supporters off he gave us all the talk he would do the best for us. But did the opposite for us.

No one resented him going home just the way he went about it with the lack of good faith.

Its very interesting that you would think that professional people/managers would start trade talk/discussions with ..if you don't trade Chris Tarrant he will go into the draft & you will get nothing blah blah blah.. you don't think there is a few missing pieces.Harvey would not trade or discuss trading, he tried everything to get Chris to stay.. everything..that caused the delay in working things out..and that's okay. BUT Chris did his contract and wanted to go home.. home to Melbourne..home to his family,. home to Collingwood.I wish Freo all the best next year, I enjoyed watching them.Freo have some exciting young players, you never know, Chris's absent may open doors for some-one else.

 

[Selggad]

Nipper would you just piss off. We're not interested in your dodgey justifications for a dog act by a bloke whose career we turned around. Go and whinge on your own board if you like, but f*** off from ours.

 

[Chops_a_must]

You must be a "kid" to respond like that. Do you really think AFL players write into this or even read it....?

Yes.

Quite clearly.

 

[Freo Shark]

Its very interesting that you would think that professional people/managers would start trade talk/discussions with ..if you don't trade Chris Tarrant he will go into the draft & you will get nothing blah blah blah.. you don't think there is a few missing pieces.Harvey would not trade or discuss trading, he tried everything to get Chris to stay.. everything..that caused the delay in working things out..and that's okay. BUT Chris did his contract and wanted to go home.. home to Melbourne..home to his family,. home to Collingwood.I wish Freo all the best next year, I enjoyed watching them.Freo have some exciting young players, you never know, Chris's absent may open doors for some-one else.

Have you enjoyed masquerading as a Freo supporter Nipper ??