News Clarkson to step away from football indefinitely

‘Heavy toll’: Roos blindsided by Clarkson decision to step away

North Melbourne are unsure how long Alastair Clarkson will need away from the game, but the club’s football boss Todd Viney, a friend of the master coach, is confident he will not be lost to the sport.

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[ZionMig22]

Assuming I was talking about Shaun, if it was a race thing it wouldn't matter if he is or isn't on talking terms with the players involved. You stand up for your culture and your people.

Well you think he would have protected his fellow Indigenous players but he went the other route

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

Why would anyone lie about the things that happened?

Because it's 2023, and being a victim is a lucrative business

 

[Makeshift Park]

I had lost the thread of this story recently - what were the conditions?

Here you go:

The Herald Sun can reveal the 18 demands imposed on the two coaches, Burt, and Hawthorn.

The most critical is them being asked to apologise for their behaviour while working at the Hawks and to drop all legal action.

The points of order are:

1. Truth-telling.

2. Acknowledgment.

3. Explanation.

4. Apologies.

5. Apologise for conduct of others.

6. Public apologies.

7. Contrition.

8. Education.

9. Revised club practices and policies.

10. AFL racism review.

11. Recommendations.

12. Compensation fund.

13. Re-capitalisation of the compensation fund.

14. Claims process.

15. Reparations.

16. Joint media statement.

17. Non-disparagement agreement.

18. Termination of all legal claims.

Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...l/news-story/df7df82c26841510732172f6db5a390c

 

[ZionMig22]

In the case of Amy's husband he came out after his retirement and made statements twice in the Age about Clarkson, Burt and Fagan being "friends for life."

Also said that they had directly reached out to help to get him back on his feet at an Amateur club and set him up with a carpentry apprenticeship post-football.

Which statements are trustworthy?

I am not talking about this player in particuar

All events are unique with multiple players

 

[freddy mercury]

Everyone is 100% entitled to be considered innocent until proven guilty, but you have to allow for the possibility that they are guilty.

And people do horrible things all the time, for various reasons, racist or not.

Of course, but they've hung them out to dry and they have trialed him through media and it is so unfair.

 

[Mofra]

Everyone is 100% entitled to be considered innocent until proven guilty, but you have to allow for the possibility that they are guilty.

And people do horrible things all the time, for various reasons, racist or not.

Exactly. It's why we have a bail/remand system.

 

[freddy mercury]

Well you think he would have protected his fellow Indigenous players but he went the other route

Funny that.

 

[Chief]

Perhaps to access all records inclusive of club sanctioned medical records which may or may not cast a light over past players state of mind and or neurological status
I’m sure these records would be sealed but they would be seeking them no doubt

I dunno.

We've been told that this panel is a good, honest group of people who won't be influenced by other parties. If they really are saying that mediation involves an admission I am guessing they have found some damning evidence.

 

[Blue1980]

Going to spend millions on a white elephant in Tullamar......

Actually that won't work, we'll probably stay in our heartland and keep developing that.

I drove around there today, it looks nice. Not sure why people are angry about it, seems whenever Essendon lose a few games its blamed on them "losing their soul" cos they are at the Hangar. Even though they hadn't done much for their last decade still based at Windy Hill.

 

[The Gotham Penguin]

I think the answer is much simpler.
Clarkson can't handle the fact that he's not the messiah.

He's just an angry little man, who inherited the greatest draft picks that one club could possibly get over 3 years - a list that pretty much any coach could do well with.

He's been sussed out. Bang average coach, with serious attitude / anger issues.

He's being asked questions at North, and now by North, that he has no answers for.

 

[South of the Yarra]

I feel for the Kangas. They are victims in a saga they had nothing to do with. Devastated for them. Plenty of people throwing the 'cooked country' around forget there are alleged victims involved here that we need to consider the potential damage done to them. There is a storm coming. Be warned there is far more than meets the eye.

 

[ZionMig22]

Funny that.

I could go on but i will probably get banned for what i think of Burgoyne

 

[Strange Cat]

Guilty until porven innocent? You do realise innocent people have been sentenced to prison for crimes they didn't commit.



Well I'm not the president of North Melbourne am I? I hold my own views and I think in any investigation innocent until proven guilty is essential. I will wait until the investgation is concluded before deciding. Clarkson could be proven innocent or not but i'm not going to make assumptions until then.

Yet your president didn’t so best to send her an email to reaffirm that stance

 

[Chief]

Here you go:



Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...l/news-story/df7df82c26841510732172f6db5a390c

Paywalled, sorry.

Is it the case that they had to admit guilt before they stepped into mediation?

 

[freddy mercury]

I could go on but i will probably get banned for what i think of Burgoyne

Nah, you should be allowed to have an opinion.

 

[Rob R]

Burgoyne is the only clown to come out and act dumb about it and say he never seen or heard a thing

Good thing he got a Channel 7 gig from it LOL

You think someone as respected as Shaun Burgoyne would lie to get a job especially when he would be in demand in both the footy and media industries.

Neither side has said he was present at the alleged meetings so what was he supposed to say when asked?

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[Chief]

He's just an angry little man, who inherited the greatest draft picks that one club could possibly get over 3 years - a list that pretty much any coach could do well with.

He's been sussed out. Bang average coach,

He's had 9 games.

 

[ZionMig22]

You think someone as respected as Shaun Burgoyne would lie to get a job especially when he would be in demand in both the footy and media industries.

Neither side has said he was present at the alleged meetings so what was he supposed to say when asked?

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He basically condemned the story LOL

True colours were shown

 

[The Dougster]

Sonja got that Plan B organised yet?

Also, blatant attempt to victimise himself. If you're innocent you just keep trekking don't you?

There’s no template for these things. I’d suggest the morally bankrupt with zero conscience usually keep trekking. Like certain politicians

 

[ZionMig22]

Nah, you should be allowed to have an opinion.

I won't take the risk tbf

Anyway it's a good day for those involved

 

[evo]

Why wouldn't he go to talk, get his story heard, find out more details?

Presumably his lawyers advised against it.

While it might seem like better optics, it could be stepping into a legal minefield.

 

[freddy mercury]

I won't take the risk tbf

Anyway it's a good day for those involved

Why you sit and accuse people of being racist but you're afraid to share an opinion.

 

[TheKanga]

Gotta feel a bit for how much s**t North fans been going through lately

It's incredibly hard to be a North supporter.
Been a long 4-5 years.

 

[ZionMig22]

Why you sit and accuse people of being racist but you're afraid to share an opinion.

Because i have no kind words towards him

I know what i can and can't say on here before someone has a sook

 

[freddy mercury]

It's scary to think some posters could get called up.to jury duty one day

Absolutely.