Clinton Young - Thoughts?

[Pleasedontfail11]

I wouldnt want to lose Dawes for a draft pick that would be a 50% chance to give us an average player in 3 years time. We need a ready made replacement forward for next year. Hopefully one of Paine/Gault can deliver next year. Imagine to add insult to injury our 30 year old Qstick replacement has a very poor year (at his age a high possibility) we could be in a bit of trouble.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Wellingham and Young are not really all that similar. It's not a like-for-like replacement. Young will replace more of what BJ does in a year or two than what Shaz did this year.

Near enough though.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I wouldnt want to lose Dawes for a draft pick that would be a 50% chance to give us an average player in 3 years time.

Thats how we picked up Dawes in the first place. In fact thats how the draft works.

 

[Bay Pie]

Apart from people saying we are into Young has anything more developed

What's holding up the deal if he is happy with the terms why have we not lodged the papers wouldn't surprise me if he stays with the Hawks looks like Murphy and Gilham will be traded

Perhaps salary cap space which may be freed up, if/once Dawes gets dealt.

I assume we can't land Young and be over the cap, must move salary 1st.

 

[Shade]

Perhaps salary cap space which may be freed up, if/once Dawes gets dealt.

I assume we can't land Young and be over the cap, must move salary 1st.

There surely is enough space for young now that wellingham has moved on.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Thats how we picked up Dawes in the first place. In fact thats how the draft works.

HaHa nice one.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

There surely is enough space for young now that wellingham has moved on.

Wellingham probably barely covers Lynch and Cloke.

 

[TradeDraft]

CLINTON YOUNG -
Herald Sun journalists today spoke about how Clinton Young was not confident in moving interstate, and that he was very impressed with Collingwood's facilities. He's just about a lock to get to the pies, but Collingwood are waiting on other deals to get done, (namely Dawes). Instead of arriving at Collingwood through free agency, the pies will offer Hawthorn a second round pick which is the word doing the rounds.

Still Can't see why the Pies will need to trade for Young but I can Believe that we might be working on other Trades 1st.

http://www.facebook.com/theafloffseason

 

[Shade]

its facebook disregard.

please stop with the facebook crap.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Pies may as well trade with Hawthorn if they arent going to use the pick. Its always a good thing to build goodwill, especially with strong clubs.

 

[TradeDraft]

its facebook disregard.

please stop with the facebook crap.

Why? What is so bad about it?

 

[Shade]

Why? What is so bad about it?

Because every single thing they post is false do you really want to believe what some 13 year old sitting behind his computer is saying if so more power to ya.

 

[TradeDraft]

Because every single thing they post is false do you really want to believe what some 13 year old sitting behind his computer is saying if so more power to ya.

They are not always Wrong Mate

 

[JOELY]

what some 13 year old sitting behind his computer is saying

Your timing is off because the most recent post actually mentions an age. But anyway, the Facebook page is of dubious reliability, but I do think the people that run it would have slight connections, and the rest of their posts are information garnered from other sources. The reality is probably somewhere in between your "every single thing they post is false" and the level that TD believes them.

 

[Shade]

Whatever you folk can believe what ever people say ill just wait to someone more credible reports it than a stupid facebook site.

 

[TradeDraft]

Postedby grizzlym on Hwaks Board:

I'm hearing, as of 4 o'clock today, that Young hadn't made a decision. Offers were in front of him from other parties, and Hawthorn were countering, and that's where it stood.

Going by that he is not a Lock as we thought

 

[HFF]

I reckon Young is gone.

You don't "test the market" and "take tours" if you are committed to staying where you are.

 

[unplugged]

Perhaps salary cap space which may be freed up, if/once Dawes gets dealt.

I assume we can't land Young and be over the cap, must move salary 1st.

That's what I'm starting to think as well. Or maybe if Dawes goes we need to look at getting a forward instead? Who knows what they're thinking.

Pies may as well trade with Hawthorn if they arent going to use the pick. Its always a good thing to build goodwill, especially with strong clubs.

Absolutely. I could see free agency biting us on the arse if we keep milking it for all it's worth.

 

[Shade]

Postedby grizzlym on Hwaks Board:



Going by that he is not a Lock as we thought

Who ever said we are a lock?

dave you get excited at players joining us way to easily.

even if he doesn't join us it's not a big deal certainly nobody to lose sleep over

 

[HFF]

Pfft. Why would we trade for Young if we can get him via free agency?

Hawks will be compensated via the AFL.

There's no need for us to build "goodwill".

These are the rules- and other teams have every right to do it to us and probably will in the future.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Perhaps salary cap space which may be freed up, if/once Dawes gets dealt.

I assume we can't land Young and be over the cap, must move salary 1st.

 

[jimmy35]

I reckon Young is gone.

You don't "test the market" and "take tours" if you are committed to staying where you are.

Unless the Hawks upped their offer a bit to make it closer to what he was offered. He needs a bit extra to swap clubs IMO.

 

[HFF]

Unless the Hawks upped their offer a bit to make it closer to what he was offered. He needs a bit extra to swap clubs IMO.

Possibly but we are seeing clubs stand firm on what players are worth.

See Essendon refusing to budge on Monfries. Saints on Goddard. Pies on Wellingham. Port on Pearce etc all of whom had contract offers on the table, despite counter offers from other clubs.

As I said, if you are "taking tours" you are on the move IMO.

 

[jimmy35]

Possibly but we are seeing clubs stand firm on what players are worth.

See Essendon refusing to budge on Monfries. Saints on Goddard. Pies on Wellingham. Port on Pearce etc all of whom had contract offers on the table, despite counter offers from other clubs.

As I said, if you are "taking tours" you are on the move IMO.

Hope so. He'd be an upgrade on Buckley and he'd improve the list. And he'd be free.

 

[unplugged]

I'm starting to think Ben Johnson could be gone if Young comes. Then you'd have to assume that either Buckley stays or we get Roberton just as a backup for that role? Maybe I'm just tired...