List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016

[Kappa]

Never questioned his work on the track.....just calling bullshit on him having a go at Williams about of field activities.

If you think Adams was upset because Marley hangs out with Jake King I think you're hearing the wrong things...

 

[TradeDraft]

Never questioned his work on the track.....just calling bullshit on him having a go at Williams about of field activities.

I say it be more that Williams does not Work Hard Enough at the Club because of who he is Hanging out with

 

[left at home]

does any one really know or is this just guessing

 

[frizzle]

You mean us getting a 30 year ( next year) old midget passed his best v a 24 yo ( next year) is a fair deal? Yup ok.


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Cripes. Didn't think he had been around that long.

 

[Matt_352]

Ballantyne too old. Surely Marley + a 2nd is enough for Walters.

 

[Kappa]

Cripes. Didn't think he had been around that long.

Was a mature age recruit

 

[frizzle]

Was a mature age recruit

Ahhhh I see

 

[Anzacday]

Must admit I had no idea Ballantyne was 30.
I retract my bid.

 

[Soups]

Ballantyne too old. Surely Marley + a 2nd is enough for Walters.

Walters has been their best player this year by far. They won't be letting him go cheaply that's for sure.

 

[CFC2010]

If you think Adams was upset because Marley hangs out with Jake King I think you're hearing the wrong things...

I never mentioned Jake King that was Dave.

 

[Rusty Beam]

A lot of people in here have fallen into the trap of expecting the world for our teams scraps.

I know it's hard and until it is all done and dusted is hard to determine, but some more objectivity is required.

Personally I don't think any players likely to be put up will get anymore than a 2nd rounder Witts, Cloke, Marley etc.

That's a tremendous result given where they are in their respective football careers and would allow us to chase decent talent in the draft.

 

[CFC2010]

A lot of people in here have fallen into the trap of expecting the world for our teams scraps.

I know it's hard and until it is all done and dusted is hard to determine, but some more objectivity is required.

Personally I don't think any players likely to be put up will get anymore than a 2nd rounder Witts, Cloke, Marley etc.

That's a tremendous result given where they are in their respective football careers and would allow us to chase decent talent in the draft.

That's how Bigfooty Trading works......if they're leaving then they're worth 1st round draft picks if we are getting players in they are worth 5th round draft picks !

 

[Rorzza]

I would be disappointed if Hine didn't ask for more than what he thought a player is worth, why wouldn't you?

 

[Roverjg]

So I think we are 0 chance of getting him... but seeing as we aren't playing finals and don't have much else to talk about, what would it take to get him?
Salary wise I think we could cover a bit, if Swan and Cloke were to move on. Trade wise, we wouldn't have the currency. Treloar was worth 2x first rounders right? So you'd think Fyfe would be worth more. Can't see how we'd be able to cover that.

SP.. I agree with you that we appear to have very little to offer up by way of trade What do you think Swan would be on?. I have been informed by a friend of his old man that he will retire as he will be covered by insurance next year so wont lose much by way of income as foot not good at all. Would Cloke go to Freo?

 

[Scodog10]

What has marley williams done thats lead to the club wanting to trade him?

Might want to switch that question around!

 

[Scodog10]

I say it be more that Williams does not Work Hard Enough at the Club because of who he is Hanging out with

If this is really what has happened it's laughable given how close the two were off field (not sure about the last 5 months...). As CFC said pot calling kettle black from Adams if he's called someone out over what they get up to!

 

[SpongePie]

SP.. I agree with you that we appear to have very little to offer up by way of trade What do you think Swan would be on?. I have been informed by a friend of his old man that he will retire as he will be covered by insurance next year so wont lose much by way of income as foot not good at all. Would Cloke go to Freo?

Honestly not sure what Swan would be on. You'd have to think at least 500k though right? I think at his peak in 10-12 he was on 800k or so, but thats some memory at the back of my head that might not be accurate.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Yeah I dont think Hurley coming. I suspect they are into Marchbank, H

Pardon any intrusion.

IMO you guys would be better chasing Hrovat than Jong. Jong has half the disposals of Swan but still butchers it more than Dane. Jong's hand skills are shocking.

Hrovat has great vision and use but poor defence and size and durability. He is like a Caleb Daniel lite IMO. Good fit for you guys if fit.

On Cloke many dogs fans disagree but putting him in the worst set shot team in the league makes no sense to me. I wouldn't take him for free but that's just me.

Agree with all of that. Jong has wonderdul effort and I can see why they like him but the polish of Hrovat is our big issue. I'm equally unsure as to why your blokes would want Cloke albeit Crameri, Cloke, Boyd and Stringer would be potentially devasting on a good day with the amount of quick ball that comes in. YOu'd think they would do what Buckley seems unwilling to do and that is push him up the ground. He's a pretty good field kick.

As an aside there is another Dog that am keen on which is Webb. Saw a lot of him as a junior and seems to have the intensity, decision making and skill boxes all ticked. Thoughts?

 

[Snoop Dog]

I'd be putting the foot down hard on getting Hurley. Jong looks a reasonable enough player but no stand out qualities that I see besides hardness but we have plenty of that already. A winger with speed (perhaps they see Phillips as providing this) or excellent kicking is a bigger need.

Small forwards with ground skills a need. We're getting Daicos but that won't pay dividends overnight.

Lot of talk on weekend about WHE being in the frame.

 

[unplugged]

Can just see it now.

Bulldogs swap Boyd for Hurley and Essendon's pick 19 (pick only thrown in based on age, etc.)

Dogs trade us Pick 19 (from the dons) for Cloke. We ask for steak knives and end up with Jong.

Dons get their forward line set for the next ten years (Danniher/Boyd), Bulldogs have a serious tilt at the flag for a year or two (Cloke/Crameri), and the pies stagnate.

 

[Anzacday]

Yeah I dont think Hurley coming. I suspect they are into Marchbank, H


Agree with all of that. Jong has wonderdul effort and I can see why they like him but the polish of Hrovat is our big issue. I'm equally unsure as to why your blokes would want Cloke albeit Crameri, Cloke, Boyd and Stringer would be potentially devasting on a good day with the amount of quick ball that comes in. YOu'd think they would do what Buckley seems unwilling to do and that is push him up the ground. He's a pretty good field kick.

As an aside there is another Dog that am keen on which is Webb. Saw a lot of him as a junior and seems to have the intensity, decision making and skill boxes all ticked. Thoughts?

Good call Snoop, I like the look of him...
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-09-16/draft-prospect-lukas-webb

 

[No SPIN]

Might want to switch that question around!

Sco - are you questioning the support the Club has given Marley over the years - many believe if not for the club he could be in jail for assault. Surely they have enough credits in the bank, and it's Marleys turn to repay the club.

I look forward to your rationale for why the club is at fault here.

 

[good4footy]

Can just see it now.

Bulldogs swap Boyd for Hurley and Essendon's pick 19 (pick only thrown in based on age, etc.)

Dogs trade us Pick 19 (from the dons) for Cloke. We ask for steak knives and end up with Jong.

Dons get their forward line set for the next ten years (Danniher/Boyd), Bulldogs have a serious tilt at the flag for a year or two (Cloke/Crameri), and the pies stagnate.

Pick 19 and Jong for Cloke and you think that will cause us to stagnate? We are making out like bandits on such a deal.

 

[BRWB]

Yeah I dont think Hurley coming. I suspect they are into Marchbank, H


Agree with all of that. Jong has wonderdul effort and I can see why they like him but the polish of Hrovat is our big issue. I'm equally unsure as to why your blokes would want Cloke albeit Crameri, Cloke, Boyd and Stringer would be potentially devasting on a good day with the amount of quick ball that comes in. YOu'd think they would do what Buckley seems unwilling to do and that is push him up the ground. He's a pretty good field kick.

As an aside there is another Dog that am keen on which is Webb. Saw a lot of him as a junior and seems to have the intensity, decision making and skill boxes all ticked. Thoughts?

Spot on with Webb IMO.

Webb is a booming precise left foot. Probably has the best boot in the club bar Bont and Murphy - more consistent than Suckling, more penetrating than Daniel and Libba. Has overhead courage and now playing inside mid to build his production. Bev has apparently compared him to Hodge off the record but lacks the campaigner that makes Hodge great.

I'd be devastated to lose Webb who is contracted.

Good get if you can get him.

Would give up footy if we traded Webb for Cloke.

 

[Apex36]

Sco - are you questioning the support the Club has given Marley over the years - many believe if not for the club he could be in jail for assault. Surely they have enough credits in the bank, and it's Marleys turn to repay the club.

I look forward to your rationale for why the club is at fault here.

Not sure Sco was implying the club had done wrong by Marley. I read it as Marley is looking to be traded rather than the club wanting to move him on.