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Two words for you my good man.............................Rising like a phoenix after the year from hell. Why the f$&k not. That would be a great Collingwood story, but many would say that the double belongs to Grundy.![]()
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Time will tell.Beams is good but is definitely overrated on this board. Cloke, Pendlebury and Swan are all clearly better and I'd argue that Ball is more important as well. I give him 0% chance of getting more brownlow votes than Pendlebury or Swan. He could do pretty good in the Copeland though.
Beams is good but is definitely overrated on this board. Cloke, Pendlebury and Swan are all clearly better and I'd argue that Ball is more important as well. I give him 0% chance of getting more brownlow votes than Pendlebury or Swan. He could do pretty good in the Copeland though.

Honestly in just a little more time, if he can steer uninterrupted.. I think he could be better then Swan.
(Waits for abuse)
Like all players, I like to see them flourish as individuals before they take on added responsibility.Good player but like to see him mature as a leader.
Good player but like to see him mature as a leader.
Beams is good but is definitely overrated on this board. Cloke, Pendlebury and Swan are all clearly better and I'd argue that Ball is more important as well. I give him 0% chance of getting more brownlow votes than Pendlebury or Swan. He could do pretty good in the Copeland though.
So our Copland winner is overrated? Gee you are a massive flog! And that's under rated!!Beams is good but is definitely overrated on this board. Cloke, Pendlebury and Swan are all clearly better and I'd argue that Ball is more important as well. I give him 0% chance of getting more brownlow votes than Pendlebury or Swan. He could do pretty good in the Copeland though.
Beams is good but is definitely overrated on this board. Cloke, Pendlebury and Swan are all clearly better and I'd argue that Ball is more important as well. I give him 0% chance of getting more brownlow votes than Pendlebury or Swan. He could do pretty good in the Copeland though.
One of the reasons he gets overrated is because he's a Copeland winner. He had an excellent 2012 and was excellent when he came back in 2013 but even with that form he was not in the top 4 players at the club (Thomas, Pendlebury, Cloke and Swan all better, arguably Reid as well) yet people on this board talk about him as the second coming of Christ. As I said above he's a good player but a superstar of the game he is not, however if it it makes you feel better hurling abuse at what I think is a pretty reasonable opinion then continue.So our Copland winner is overrated? Gee you are a massive flog! And that's under rated!!
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