Connolly interview WCE Worst 4/2

[wehavethepassion]

Was connolly's responses much different from Schwabby's interview in late 2005?

Basic thread thru both interviews was team needs to deliver big time on field or there will be a lot of people(not just coaches) looking for new jobs.

 

[Ripper]

Was connolly's responses much different from Schwabby's interview in late 2005?

I would hope not. Otherwise it would indicate they are pulling in different directions.

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Basic thread thru both interviews was team needs to deliver big time on field or there will be a lot of people(not just coaches) looking for new jobs.

As it should be.

I really liked this bit.

"If you look at our playing list, most of our group have got a minimum of three pre-seasons behind them and are up for senior selection. They should be at the optimum age to perform consistently if they're good enough. They are really putting pressure on each other. It's been aggressive and it's very competitive for spots. Toning back the intensity has been a constant battle because we don't want injuries on the training track. But it shows how hungry the players are and they are really hungry to do well."

 

[Lach72]

Interesting back page, didn't you think? No surprises really...
"Will they let us down again".
Typical.

 

[wehavethepassion]

What will you perceive as a successful season? FFC has stated that winning a finals is the GOAL.

So if they make the finals and bow out in first week is this good enough to persist with the current player list and footy dept?

i

 

[newlander77]

So if they make the finals and bow out in first week is this good enough to persist with the current player list and footy dept?

I haven't heard many doubt the list has what it takes, and I certainly don't think the coaching dept is in doubt either. I think the only question mark is whether CC can guide the team to success. Let's say Freo were wooden spooners in 2006, who do you think would get the axe? Do you think they would honestly rip the heart out of the club and start again? Would members and other loyal fans stand for it? Would the club? Very doubtful!

 

[Dr Ralph Dagg]

What will you perceive as a successful season? FFC has stated that winning a finals is the GOAL.

So if they make the finals and bow out in first week is this good enough to persist with the current player list and footy dept?i

Win a final is the only criteria that will keep CC in a job. Win two finals and all will be forgiven.

The other criteria that will define success is to finish higher than the Eagles. I couldn't imagine yesterday's headline if we finished higher than the Eagles. 90% of what is written and said in Perth about the Dockers is based on their relative percieved rating against the Eagles.

Every one of us knows that feeling of smug superiority from an Eagles fan based on a footy knowledge that would fit on an aspro in capital letters. Finish higher up the ladder and the bragging rights is ours. You could say what you like and watch their little red faces screw up in apoplexy. Except those ones on radio.

 

[Freo Shark]

Win a final is the only criteria that will keep CC in a job. Win two finals and all will be forgiven.

So what if we win the premiership ? Tico and Jarman etc take turns eating the humble pie factory

Seriously a finals appearance will be enough for CC to see 2007 contractually.

The other criteria that will define success is to finish higher than the Eagles. I couldn't imagine yesterday's headline if we finished higher than the Eagles. 90% of what is written and said in Perth about the Dockers is based on their relative percieved rating against the Eagles.

I agree in Melbourne we wouldnt stick out anything like as much. Perth is a pretty small place in the scheme of things.

Every one of us knows that feeling of smug superiority from an Eagles fan based on a footy knowledge that would fit on an aspro in capital letters. Finish higher up the ladder and the bragging rights is ours. You could say what you like and watch their little red faces screw up in apoplexy. Except those ones on radio.

We all wish for that day again, perhaps 2003 wasnt as good as it should've been. If only we had had a narrow loss.

 

[ThePope]

I think the back page shows how tabloid the Worst has become. Self made "news" (ie an arranged interview, which really doesn't break any new information, I mean there is no earth shattering content in it, just what you'd hope to hear/read/say) is more worthy of a full back page than a thrashing of the Saffies in the cricket with a West Aussie getting MOM, the departure of the Glories best player or the public training of our greatest (current/ever?) boxer ahead of the biggest ever fight in Aust, let alone the pre comm games swimming/athletics trials.
But Mr Dagg is correct, we can bitch and moan all we want, until we win at least a final, make the granny and consistantly be able the other mob, we'll continue to get this sort of treatment.

I bet Hart/Schwabby etc won't be complaining that much though... keep the brand in the news and Spa Showcase and RBK get a bit of free advertising.

But did anyone see the editorial...

Dockers Deliver yet another PR disaster
The Fremantle Dockers have delivered themselves into another public relations disaster by putting impediments in the way of a proposed charity football game.
They would not let organisers use the club's "intellectual property" - its name and guernsey - though the West Coast Eagles had no problems with the idea. It is sometimes hard to tell whether the Dockers are a government bureaucracy or a club seeking community support.​

flick back too pages and you see the real story.

The proposed charity football match between WC and Freo players on March 10 was cancelled yesterday after organisers failled to give the Dockers a written business proposal.
...
"We are happy to be involved but we need to know more. The implications for the FFC may be very little, but we don't know that because we don't know what is proposed." Mr Rosich (Freo's marketing manager) said.​

Fair enough. Like I said on the thread about this game, what's in it for us? Why celebrate a thrashing that was the beginning of a lot more thrashings. Who would really want to see Gilbert, Wardall-Johnson and Burrows play again?
How much will actually be raised for the Leukaemia Foundation and how much for the orgainisers/caterers etc. Could we raise the same amount of money in a different way that doesn't celebrate a low point of our history. Maybe we could sell t-shirts with "Fremantle, 2006 premiers" written on them? It's for charity, you know.

 

[Sailor]

And what was not reported by stated on 882 Saturday was that Freo contributed over $350,000 to charity and community events last year. More than ANY other AFL team.
Don't hold your breath waiting for good news to be printed.

 

[dasler]

I think the back page shows how tabloid the Worst has become. Self made "news" (ie an arranged interview, which really doesn't break any new information, I mean there is no earth shattering content in it, just what you'd hope to hear/read/say) is more worthy of a full back page than a thrashing of the Saffies in the cricket with a West Aussie getting MOM, the departure of the Glories best player or the public training of our greatest (current/ever?) boxer ahead of the biggest ever fight in Aust, let alone the pre comm games swimming/athletics trials.
But Mr Dagg is correct, we can bitch and moan all we want, until we win at least a final, make the granny and consistantly be able the other mob, we'll continue to get this sort of treatment.

I bet Hart/Schwabby etc won't be complaining that much though... keep the brand in the news and Spa Showcase and RBK get a bit of free advertising.

But did anyone see the editorial...

Dockers Deliver yet another PR disaster
The Fremantle Dockers have delivered themselves into another public relations disaster by putting impediments in the way of a proposed charity football game.
They would not let organisers use the club's "intellectual property" - its name and guernsey - though the West Coast Eagles had no problems with the idea. It is sometimes hard to tell whether the Dockers are a government bureaucracy or a club seeking community support.​

flick back too pages and you see the real story.

The proposed charity football match between WC and Freo players on March 10 was cancelled yesterday after organisers failled to give the Dockers a written business proposal.
...
"We are happy to be involved but we need to know more. The implications for the FFC may be very little, but we don't know that because we don't know what is proposed." Mr Rosich (Freo's marketing manager) said.​

Fair enough. Like I said on the thread about this game, what's in it for us? Why celebrate a thrashing that was the beginning of a lot more thrashings. Who would really want to see Gilbert, Wardall-Johnson and Burrows play again?
How much will actually be raised for the Leukaemia Foundation and how much for the orgainisers/caterers etc. Could we raise the same amount of money in a different way that doesn't celebrate a low point of our history. Maybe we could sell t-shirts with "Fremantle, 2006 premiers" written on them? It's for charity, you know.

This entire story is a complete load of carp. Cameron Schwab wants to flog this off as his own idea. That's why the deal hasn't gone through.

 

[surfsup]

This entire story is a complete load of carp. Cameron Schwab wants to flog this off as his own idea. That's why the deal hasn't gone through.

Yep. Right. Uh huh. Of course. Gee wiz.

YOU TWIT!

 

[dasler]

Yep. Right. Uh huh. Of course. Gee wiz.

YOU TWIT!

A comment such as this shows an uninformed opinion.

 

[ImperialPurple]

A comment such as this shows an uninformed opinion.

A comment such as your first, that seeks to inflame, yet does nothing to back itself up, shows a troll. If you'd care to expand, then perhaps you wouldn't draw responses such as the one you received.

 

[dasler]

A comment such as your first, that seeks to inflame, yet does nothing to back itself up, shows a troll. If you'd care to expand, then perhaps you wouldn't draw responses such as the one you received.

Justification of sources IP. How very disappointing coming from you. Surfsup and yourself might care to acquaint yourselves in a personal conversation with the organisers/original planners of the "rewind" derby.

 

[surfsup]

Justification of sources IP. How very disappointing coming from you. Surfsup and yourself might care to acquaint yourselves in a personal conversation with the organisers/original planners of the "rewind" derby.

'Organisers' is drawing a long bow.

Maybe the article should have read something along the lines of ;

'Charity match sunk by lack of organisation.
Fremantle Football club has insisted on more than a verbal submission and has requested a properly documented proposal be handed to them. The Fremantle Dockers are trying to avoid being involved in a public relations disaster by requesting proper documentation be presented for the proposed charity football game.
The proposed charity football match between WC and Freo players on March 10 was cancelled yesterday after organisers failed to give the Dockers a written business proposal.
...
"We are happy to be involved but we need to know more. The implications for the FFC may be very little, but we don't know that because we don't know what is proposed." Mr Rosich (Freo's marketing manager) said. " We give more to charity than any other AFL club so we are all for this event to go ahead, it just has to be done properly," Rosich added.

This comment is a complete load of carp. "Cameron Schwab wants to flog this off as his own idea. That's why the deal hasn't gone through." - dasler

 

[dasler]

'Organisers' is drawing a long bow.

Maybe the article should have read something along the lines of ;

'Charity match sunk by lack of organisation.
Fremantle Football club has insisted on more than a verbal submission and has requested a properly documented proposal be handed to them. The Fremantle Dockers are trying to avoid being involved in a public relations disaster by requesting proper documentation be presented for the proposed charity football game.
The proposed charity football match between WC and Freo players on March 10 was cancelled yesterday after organisers failed to give the Dockers a written business proposal.
...
"We are happy to be involved but we need to know more. The implications for the FFC may be very little, but we don't know that because we don't know what is proposed." Mr Rosich (Freo's marketing manager) said. " We give more to charity than any other AFL club so we are all for this event to go ahead, it just has to be done properly," Rosich added.

I can assure you surfsup, what you read as a print article are usually non-truths. You are grossly unawares of the politics involved in professional football at all levels.

Fremantle staff are well aware of what is involved. That I can guarantee.

 

[surfsup]

I can assure you surfsup, what you read as a print article are usually non-truths. You are grossly unawares of the politics involved in professional football at all levels.

Fremantle staff are well aware of what is involved. That I can guarantee.

Being a Fremantle supporter I don't need to be told that what you read in the paper is usually manufactured rubbish. It's written to sell newspapers, keep journalists in jobs and all the while giving the people what they want to read. Truth has little to do with it.

As far as I am concerned I'm glad it didn't go ahead. Due to our poor history it would have been embarrassing dragging all that up again. It most probably would've been attended by and large by wc supporters and would have given the FFC little to remember fondly.
Our club needs to look forward, not backwards.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Justification of sources IP. How very disappointing coming from you. Surfsup and yourself might care to acquaint yourselves in a personal conversation with the organisers/original planners of the "rewind" derby.

You misinterpreted my comment dazzles. No need to be so defensive...

I merely meant to suggest that if you come onto the Freo board, refuting claims that have come out of our club and then laying the blame at the feet of the CEO of our club - and then you don't back it up - that it could / might / will be construed as a "troll" and you could realistically expect responses such as the one you received.

I never once suggested you don't know what you are talking about - just that if you make certain comments, you should expect certain responses.


And FWIW - I agree completely with surfsup:

Originally posted by surfsup:
As far as I am concerned I'm glad it didn't go ahead. Due to our poor history it would have been embarrassing dragging all that up again. It most probably would've been attended by and large by wc supporters and would have given the FFC little to remember fondly.
Our club needs to look forward, not backwards.

Our club donates large amounts of money to charity. Alzheimers, Cerebral Palsy, Starlight, Guide Dogs spring quickly to mind.

I like carneagles idea - chuck out the idea of a bunch of old, unfit blokes runnning around trying to recapture past glories - get everyone who walks through the gates at a real derby to donate $1 towards the chosen charity... Voila - $40,000.