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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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I’d rather take that 5 mill and…

Jack Steele - 3 years 3 mill deak
Tylar Young - 3 years 2 mil deal

Then give it to Starcevich
 
It's not just about contending in a hurry. If we can bring in a mature best 22 player that will help improve the team and has both finals and premiership experience it is a massive benefit to the youth on our list.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

I get this, it's a good way to look at it.


But as we've already pointed out today already, Starcevich is ranked as the 99th best General Defender.

Baker, McCarthy, GInbey, Cole, Duggan, Maric all rated higher.

On paper, statistically he's worse than even our middling players we're borderline about to delist (Cole).


There's plenty on here, including yourself that rate him regardless though, so it'll be interesting to see how it does end up playing out. Obviously i hope i'm well off the mark and get proven totally wrong, i'm clearly not a fan of the idea :shrug:
 
Pretty confident the AFL will give us a pick for Starcevich. We would have preferred the optics of FA concession rather than a pick but reckon they will come to the party.
But this is rewarding Brisbane after they picked up 2 highly rated free agents .

The optics already look bad for Brisbane then you add they get a top 3 pick in the draft after contending !
 
He's a plodder and has already stagnated.
This a such a negative and shortsighted view, it’s astonishing. He’s tracking better than Butler was as a 20yo, yet the whole league is after Butler now.
 

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We're the worst team of all time. We aren't contending for anything in a hurry.

I don't think instantly trying to buy wins by overpaying for average players is the best way to go about it, no.

I'd take some cheap as chips state league players to boost our age profile over that Starcevich deal yes, absolutely.

But then you are paying State League players massive money to just sit on the list.
 
Laughing at the idea of Charlie Constable and Jesse Turner earning 7 figures next year just to bring the Eagles up to the salary floor.
 
I think it's the optics that it doesn't allow Brisbane to match an offer for a restricted free agent they wish to keep.

If he was unrestricted then i'm certain they would have agreed to it.
This is the narrative I don't understand. I've heard Cal say it a couple of times. How does not diluting our free agency compo affect Brisbane matching the offer? I must be missing something because I don't get it. They could still match if they want to keep him, couldn't they?
 
I’d rather take that 5 mill and…

Jack Steele - 3 years 3 mill deak
Tylar Young - 3 years 2 mil deal

Then give it to Starcevich

If you give it to Steele and Young, then give it to Starcevich you’ve spent $10m
 
It’s all very well to say wait two years for Warner. We need experience on the field now, the young players need support and we need wins to keep everyone hopeful.
Everyone being players and supporters. Not sure the Reid’s and Shanahans of the world are sticking around for too many one win seasons away from friends and family.
Yup. Don’t want to become a basket case.

See norf / Melbourne / Brisbane where they just haemorrhaged players year after year
 
Regarding Starcevich, you have to remember defenders look better in good teams. How is he going to fare when the ball is being dropped on his head for the 10th time in the space of 5 minutes. I'm worried he's going to become a Tim Kelly level whipping boy once he lets a couple of goals through.
 
It's not just about contending in a hurry. If we can bring in a mature best 22 player that will help improve the team and has both finals and premiership experience it is a massive benefit to the youth on our list.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Actually Confucius say:

"A rising tide lifts all boats.............except for boat that has giant hole in hull, overpays to fix and gives out long long long repair contracts, getting timing wrong like if dropped watch in toilet and had shitty time".

In summary, we be Máng rén mò xiàng

 
Just reeks of “Well nobody else wants to come here so we may as well guarantee that the one guy who might want to actually does”

Not necessarily shitting on the club for it because they can’t force better players to be interested in coming here. But it’s just embarrassing that it’s the state we are in at the moment.
Yes it does....because

NOBODY WANTS TO COME HERE!!!

we are digging ourselves out of one giant hole and only taking another 7 18 yo draftees will do nothing for us. In fact, losing Allen Ryan sheed Chesser McGovern in one year is going to make life very difficult to even win one game should we not get mature age B grade role players.
 

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Regarding Starcevich, you have to remember defenders look better in good teams. How is he going to fare when the ball is being dropped on his head for the 10th time in the space of 5 minutes. I'm worried he's going to become a Tim Kelly level whipping boy once he lets a couple of goals through.

I know i'll certainly be sinking the boots into him 😍
 
We're the worst team of all time. We aren't contending for anything in a hurry.

I don't think instantly trying to buy wins by overpaying for average players is the best way to go about it, no.

I'd take some cheap as chips state league players to boost our age profile over that Starcevich deal yes, absolutely.
It's not about contending soon, it's about selling a future to Harley, Shanahan, gross, and the new draftees this year. Its about next year's off season being slightly easier to lure some more mature talent, it's about saying to the west Australian based players who continually snub us and re-sign with there Victorian clubs we moving up.
 
This is the narrative I don't understand. I've heard Cal say it a couple of times. How does not diluting our free agency compo affect Brisbane matching the offer? I must be missing something because I don't get it. They could still match if they want to keep him, couldn't they?

We won’t be lodging any paperwork to add Starcevich as a Free Agent meaning Brisbane won’t have anything to match. I’ll also point out that if Brisbane come close to offering the same contract to him, then he probably stays at Brisbane - explains why our offer is so high because we need to encourage him to move from a contender to a rebuilding side

Something will be worked out between the clubs after the Allen deal has been put through. The only question will be how nice we decide to be with Brisbane to ensure a deal gets done because if he went to another club as a FA they’d be getting nothing

I’d like us to only send them our R3 pick of Hawthorn’s but won’t be overly upset if we send the Hawthorn R2 pick instead maybe with one of the R3 picks they hold (they have 4 of them) coming back to us. Or add one of Robertson/Tunstill to the deal
 

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It's not about contending soon, it's about selling a future to Harley, Shanahan, gross, and the new draftees this year. Its about next year's off season being slightly easier to lure some more mature talent, it's about saying to the west Australian based players who continually snub us and re-sign with there Victorian clubs we moving up.

Starcevich does all that?
 
But as we've already pointed out today already, Starcevich is ranked as the 99th best General Defender.

Baker, McCarthy, GInbey, Cole, Duggan, Maric all rated higher.

On paper, statistically he's worse than even our middling players we're borderline about to delist (Cole).
Starcevich is an automatic selection in one of the best sides in the comp and is in demand from multiple AFL clubs, including the club he's currently playing for, whereas Cole and Maric are on the fringes of one of the worst teams in history and nobody is enquiring about their availability. Does this not suggest to you that maybe the statistics you're citing are not a great way to evaluate and compare these players?
 
Starcevich is bloody good. The only red flag is concussion.

He shits on all our small-med defenders.
A few weeks ago Starcevich ran back with the flight of the ball into the oncoming traffic. Never took his eyes off the ball and while turning and taking the contact; punched the ball clean out. I thought there was a chance he was dead but he got up.that sort of courage probably explains the odd concussion.As an aside; the ump gave a free against him( utter bullshit)
Point is I’ve never seen Cole do anything close to that brave!
Better kick and better decision maker!
 
Starcevich is an automatic selection in one of the best sides in the comp and is in demand from multiple AFL clubs, including the club he's currently playing for, whereas Cole and Maric are on the fringes of one of the worst teams in history and nobody is enquiring about their availability. Does this not suggest to you that maybe the statistics you're citing are not a great way to evaluate and compare these players?
Thats all well and good, but look at all the other players of like calaber lining up to join us.
 
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