List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Quick links

• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Wce17]

Watching some of the Tigers draft videos I think they’ll want Sharp if we split with Essendon. They need to replace Hopper and Taranto and after all the talls they took last year I think they go mid.
If we split with the Dons I’m worried we go CDT anyway.
Then Dons take Duursma, Tigers Sharp and Cumming. Then who do we take?

A possible trade with Essendon could be 2 & 15 (Hawks first) for 5 & 6.

Essendon could then use that 15 and package it up with there other second rounders to get the suns pick 7 which would be a seperate trade.

We end up with 5 & 6 & Essendon end up with 2 & 7. Ends up being dead even if you look at pick value (3454 points)

I think we take Duursma at 1. Grjl, Schubert, Farrow, Lindsay, Robey. IMO lots of good options still.

Even using that hawks pick we would still have enough picks to move up the order with another club plus we still have whatever we got for Chesser & Ryan

 

[Keys]

Can we afford to chase the blues compo pick (10/11'ish) if as said they may be chasing points?

Pick 10 is worth 1276 points. If Draper is band 1 then the TDK compo will be pick 11 (1205 points)

The Hawthorn R1 pick will be either 17 (879 points) or 18 (836 points) that plus our R2 pick (23 - 653 points) gives us 1532 points to offer for pick 10 (1276 points) or 1489 points to offer if it’s pick 11 (1205 points)

So we have enough to move up to their pick depending on what other offers they get

The question is, as Dark Sharks pointed out, will we combine picks to trade up when our history says it’s something we don’t do - it’s actually the reverse where we split a pick for multiple lower picks

Hopefully it’s something we do this year because unlike prior years where we’ve split our R1 pick to get more than one pick in the first round, we already have 3x R1 picks and somewhat of a squeeze on list spots so moving up the order makes sense

 

[WCE777]

This is true, but depending on what happens with Chesser and Ryan and PPs we'll have 2nd and 3rd rounders to burn and not a heap of list spots (weirdly for a 1 win side)

We seem in a pretty good spot to at least attempt it this year

I fully expect WC to take picks 1 & 2 to the draft and try and trade up for another early pick with all their others that are not used on trades.
If they feel Duursma and Sharp are 1 and 2 then that's what will happen, Cumming is the player I expect we will chase hard if we take Duursma and will trade up to get him.

If we don't take Duursma and another club pays big overs we will trade down a few spots and get Sharp and Cumming and another quality player.

I would be surprised if we don't take a KPD later in the draft, 2nd-3rd round pick, there aren't many quality ones but with the interest we have in T Young from RICH tells us we are not happy with our stocks.
Any picks not used on trade and draft night will be pushed into 2026 imo.

We will need a massive draft haul in 2026 with our NGA/FS players projecting better than anything in the past, multiple talents and will need another A grade midfielder with our 1st pick.
5 NGA/FS prospects to draft in and probably a ruck project in B Van Rooyen, KPF in K LeCras which if they keep projecting as they are will be around the late 1st early 2nd round picks.
That's 7-8 draftees in 2026.
With all the player movement expected there will be a massive change up in the draft hands and positions of many clubs imo.

 

[Barrybran]

A possible trade with Essendon could be 2 & 15 (Hawks first) for 5 & 6.

Essendon could then use that 15 and package it up with there other second rounders to get the suns pick 7 which would be a seperate trade.

We end up with 5 & 6 & Essendon end up with 2 & 7. Ends up being dead even if you look at pick value (3454 points)

I think we take Duursma at 1. Grjl, Schubert, Farrow, Lindsay, Robey. IMO lots of good options still.

Even using that hawks pick we would still have enough picks to move up the order with another club plus we still have whatever we got for Chesser & Ryan

I'm not sure I see Essendon giving up 5 & 6 in a trade for 2. They need talent as well. If anything, I see a trade of 2 for 5 and we trade up to Port's pick held by Gold Coast ourselves. Alternatively, as someone posted a while back, it becomes a three-way trade and everyone winds up with the same picks (2 for Essendon, 5 & 8 for us, points for Gold Coast).

I'm also seeing us taking Sharp at 1. We need a Sharp more than we need a Duursma and I think we can cover what we potentially lose by not drafting Duursma elsewhere.

 

[BSD]

Tomorrow WAFL Colt GF featuring Rodriguez(South Fremantle) Vs Cody Curtin (Claremont)

And F-Rod Vs The Banfields as well.

 

[WCE777]

Yeah somewhere around 20.
Dovaston, NHH, Barker, Poo around that mark. Would love a good small forward. Or even better use it to trade up to take who we want

Use it to trade up.
Small forwards are the last place we want to spend capital.
Already got Brockman, Dewar, Long, Newton, Champion on the list. Shit, forgot Owies!!
About to add Walley, Williams, Evans in 2025 and McGlade, Farmer in 2026.
No doubt, not all will make it but there will be plenty of talent to come through there and we will be well stocked for 10 years.
Can see us delisting talent fairly quickly through this area once we get some quality coming through.

 

[Barrybran]

I would be surprised if we don't take a KPD later in the draft, 2nd-3rd round pick, there aren't many quality ones but with the interest we have in T Young from RICH tells us we are not happy with our stocks.

I'm wondering this myself. Schubert is a popular name here but I'm wondering if we get another top 10 pick if we go after another mid and leave the KPD for later in the draft.

 

[beagles]

If we are just going to take CDT at 2 who many people don't seem keen on then shouldn't we just trade it and try and get a 2 for 1 type of deal. Seems like the top 10 is pretty even so think we would still end up with a couple of good players.

No, we should just take CDT

 

[Hangover Noir]

The club is definitely trying to phase him out. Happy it's only a 1 year extension. Once he's no longer an automatic selection and spending time in the WAFL, his time will be up.

Cole to get the Petch treatment. Appropriate.

 

[Farang83150]

I'm not sure I see Essendon giving up 5 & 6 in a trade for 2. They need talent as well. If anything, I see a trade of 2 for 5 and we trade up to Port's pick held by Gold Coast ourselves. Alternatively, as someone posted a while back, it becomes a three-way trade and everyone winds up with the same picks (2 for Essendon, 5 & 8 for us, points for Gold Coast).

I'm also seeing us taking Sharp at 1. We need a Sharp more than we need a Duursma and I think we can cover what we potentially lose by not drafting Duursma elsewhere.

So we give them 2 for pick 5 and we have to do leg work to trade up for a pa pick?

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Cole is a list clogger. The fact the eagles have only offered him a one year contract extension and 6yrs to Starcevich goes to show who they rate as the better player.

 

[Barrybran]

So we give them 2 for pick 5 and we have to do leg work to trade up for a pa pick?

That's what I would expect, yes. Us wanting an extra top 10 pick isn't Essendon's problem.

 

[beagles]

I don't think we can confidently trade up, down or out until we know the new trade and draft rules for 2026.

If there is a 1st round lock out or other restrictions on FA compensation, Academy selections and Father sons in 2026, then early future picks will be worthwhile and valuable.

Similarly new zones and Academy rules might allow same rights and development conditions as the Northern Academy's.

And the AFL response to our assistance requests.

Next week will hopefully provide some answers, then we can suggest a range of options and opinions

 

[Farang83150]

That's what I would expect, yes. Us wanting an extra top 10 pick isn't Essendon's problem.

So we'd be downgrading from 2 to 5. what's the benefit to us in that?
I'm sure I'm missing something here, wouldn't be the 1st time!

 

[Hook461123]

Use it to trade up.
Small forwards are the last place we want to spend capital.
Already got Brockman, Dewar, Long, Newton, Champion on the list. Shit, forgot Owies!!
About to add Walley, Williams, Evans in 2025 and McGlade, Farmer in 2026.
No doubt, not all will make it but there will be plenty of talent to come through there and we will be well stocked for 10 years.
Can see us delisting talent fairly quickly through this area once we get some quality coming through.

Hope you’re right. Just feels like we are losing Ryan and Cripps who were our two best small fwds. The rest are NGA’s and late picks. Quantity doesn’t make up for quality

 

[Barrybran]

So we'd be downgrading from 2 to 5. what's the benefit to us in that?
I'm sure I'm missing something here, wouldn't be the 1st time!

Same as 2022 and 2024. If our targets are projected to be lower on the board, we trade down and pick up extra picks alongside our targeted players. That's why everyone is talking about trading up with Gold Coast alongside trading down with Essendon.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I really like what I've seen the Robey limited videos...I want to see more.

Anyone here seen him live??

I like what I'm hearing about his personality type too.


I'm now in the JTR camp (again!)

 

[Monocle]

So we give them 2 for pick 5 and we have to do leg work to trade up for a pa pick?

After last years efforts sounds like the sort of thing Clarke Kent would do.

 

[Monocle]

Same as 2022 and 2024. If our targets are projected to be lower on the board, we trade down and pick up extra picks alongside our targeted players. That's why everyone is talking about trading up with Gold Coast alongside trading down with Essendon.

So what are we getting as well as pick 5 for pick 2.
Makes no sense at all.

 

[Goomba1973]

As it stands, we have or are likely to have the following picks to use:

• 1&2- Draft 2 of Sharp, Duursma, Lindsay or Cumming
• Hawthorn R1 - Farrow/Phillipou/Barker
• WCE R2 - Rodriquez/Swadling/Curtin
• Hawthorn R2 - Trade for Davies/Erasmus/Ah Chee
• Hawthorn R3 - Trade for Reidy/Starcevich/McVee
• WCE R5 - Trade for Blight/Robertson
• WCE R6 - F/S Charlie Banfield (Unlikely he attracts a bid earlier than R3 meaning we can match a bid with any pick provided we have the list spot)
• AFL to grant us 2x additional Cat B list spots plus the ability to fill those spots by prelisting our NGA players - Evans and Williams

All up 10 new players requiring 8 list spots to be opened up, with the obvious changes being -

Allen (FA)
Delist:
Jamieson
Rawlinson
Hunt
Petruccelle

Cole, Cripps and Chesser are all reported to have been, or will be, offered new contracts and whilst an extension for Champion hasn’t been mentioned he should also get a new contract

Leaving only Livingstone and Newton in limbo. Newton arguably deserves a contract whilst Livingstone as a Cat B is a unique case and would only be in jeopardy if we want to add Walley as another NGA to the Cat B list

The above still leaves us 3 spots short that needed to be opened up using the following options:

• Delist a contracted player(s) with Barnett the most obvious candidate
• Trade a contracted player(s) - Ryan is a possibility from media reports. Maybe Jack Williams who, rightly or wrongly, seems to be on the outer with McQualter - maybe due to his lack of athleticism
• Combine the Hawthorn R1 and our R2 pick to move up the draft order (the port pick the Suns hold) to take Schubert instead of two picks meaning one less draftee
• Push the AFL for two additional rookie list spots as part of the assistance package

I’d be happy with an end result of-

In (10):
• Sharp
• One of Duursma/Lindsay/Cumming
• Schubert
• Banfield
• Evans
• Williams
• Walley
• Erasmus (or Davies preferably but think he’ll move elsewhere)
• Starcevich
• Blight

Out (6):
• Allen
• Hunt
• Petruccelle
• Jamieson
• Rawlinson
• Barnett or Livingstone

I’d rather keep Ryan but if he asks to leave I’d chase Ah Chee harder or alternatively receive future picks for him and add Robertson as a DFA or token future pick

Starcevich will cost more than a 3rd rounder , we'll likely be giving up pick 19 for him .

 

[Wooshaaaa]

ABC sports talk Jarrad Schofield is on the panel today. He said the plan was for Elliott Yeo to play half back next year for durability reasons. I wonder if this means the club is confident of getting a senior midfield via trade or if the plan is for starcivich to play mid.
He also said Hough will play back.

I've been saying this for 3 years now. Finally.

 

[Barrybran]

So what are we getting as well as pick 5 for pick 2.
Makes no sense at all.

It makes more sense than 2 for 5 & 6. What is the incentive for Essendon to make that trade?

We would need more than Essendon have and Essendon need their lower picks for their NGA kics, which is why I think another trading partner is needed.

 

[Hasselhough]

About where would Sullivan Robey be expected to get picked at now?

Richmond board want to take him with one of their picks 3 and 4

 

[Monocle]

It makes more sense than 2 for 5 & 6. What is the incentive for Essendon to make that trade?

We would need more than Essendon have and Essendon need their lower picks for their NGA kics, which is why I think another trading partner is needed.

You still haven't answered my question what else do we get for for pick 2 other than pick 5 thats a net loss for us.

Essendon currently hold picks 4,5,22, 25

 

[Farang83150]

Richmond board want to take him with one of their picks 3 and 4

Ah ok, didn't realise he'd jumped that high up the order.