List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[eaglevision]

Yeah all of WC are total idiots, except for you cos you’re a genius, you’ll also melt whatever we do, too much oestrogen.

You must be licking your lips at drafting an 18yo AFL ready ruckman at pick 2!

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Draft day is gonna be funny on this board when we go Duursma and CDT lol

Half half.

If it goes sharp Cumming I'll be laughing

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Cody Curtain will be around our second second round pick

I’m not taking one with our first two, assuming we don’t split one, talking later. But I’m also not sure we’ll take all NGAs at the expense of KPP.

 

[Hasselhough]

im just quoting what all the draft experts have said, sharp lacks the athletism to be a elite player (this doesn't mean he wont be a very good player.) there's reasons why people like cal have him at 6 even though he's been the best performed player this year.

Cal has him after the 2 vic love children as players not connected to academy's.

There are so many tall busts in the top 10s of drafts that I'm happy to take the sure thing 200 gamer sharp

 

[eaglespremiers]

Disagree. He averaged 20 touches, 6 marks, 4 clearances, 17 hitouts and a goal a game at CTL level. Combine his performances with his height, athleticism and huge upside and I can definitely see why everyone rates him so highly

Again, we threw Zaydyn Lockwood solely into the ruck in the final six games of the Talent League season and he averaged 23 disposals, 6 marks, 21 hitouts and more than 4 clearances during this final six weeks.
One is touted as a top 2 pick, the other will be lucky to get drafted.
Also Zaydyn would easily out jump Duff-Tytler given his freak athleticism.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Here's the issue with Jy from an unbiased point of view.

He's contracted for another 4 years on approx 900k a season.

If you are going to continue to play him as a HFF or wing player then that's probably more than you'd like to for a player in that role.

I think he had a good year all things considered but his best games for your club were more often than not when Wardlaw or someone from the midfield was injured and he got to play on ball.

There would be interest in him for certain but he's not leaving North to go to another struggling club which means he requests someone who

A) Won't want to pay him 900k a year

B) Won't want to give up more than a first round pick and change. You'd hope for a top 10 pick but the best clubs generally don't have picks much better than mid teens.

Jy does not look like a trade will be easy to accomplish unless North are happy to take unders for him.

For the record i'd be very happy to take him but he's not coming west.

Good write up, The Puma #9, some good points there, BUT you guys need a good experienced midfielder, so does the Crows, so does the Saints, so does the Swans, so does the Bombers and next year Port might be in that boat if their not in it already, and they don't grow on trees, all these clubs have a choice, to get someone in the WAFL, SANFL or the VFL who may/ may not even make it, which would mean another couple of years down the track or bite the bullet and get someone who will give it a go straight away and wont shirk the contest.

Picks and salary are always an interesting topic of conversation but whether he's on 900k a year which I doubt {front end of contract loaded} or much less, doesn't mean as much as it used to, when you have average players getting close to a million dollars a year then you know this is not 2010, so even for a player who has won two best & fairest awards then I'm not sure the money is quite the important factor it once was.

For it to happen a number of things need to occur so it will take an effort from both sides otherwise as they say in our great game, "play on"!

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Good write up, The Puma #9, some good points there, BUT you guys need a good experienced midfielder, so does the Crows, so does the Saints, so does the Swans, so does the Bombers and next year Port might be in that boat if their not in it already, and they don't grow on trees, all these clubs have a choice, to get someone in the WAFL, SANFL or the VFL who may/ may not even make it, which would mean another couple of years down the track or bite the bullet and get someone who will give it a go straight away and wont shirk the contest.

Picks and salary are always an interesting topic of conversation but whether he's on 900k a year which I doubt {front end of contract loaded} or much less, doesn't mean as much as it used to, when you have average players getting close to a million dollars a year then you know this is not 2010, so even for a player who has won two best & fairest awards then I'm not sure the money is quite the important factor it once was.

For it to happen a number of things need to occur so it will take an effort from both sides otherwise as they say in our great game, "play on"!

We have Baker and Graham. Why would we also want Simpkin? You're getting us confused with Essendon.

 

[beagles]

I’d melt if we took anyone other than Sharp and one of Cumming or Duursma at 1-2 unless we knew one would slide to our next pick. We are run by total idiots if we pass up Sharp, I can understand either of the other two in preference of the other.

Schubert will be spoken about at Essendon’s current picks and certainly St Kilda’s, I wouldn’t take him at 1 or 2 though.

Duursma and CDT

 

[PremiershipNo4]

You must be licking your lips at drafting an 18yo AFL ready ruckman at pick 2!

I’m licking my lips at the list of idiotic posts that you make and that I’ve bookmarked, I’m gonna have a field day, just carry on being yourself, keep posting genius

 

[eaglevision]

I’m licking my lips at the list of idiotic posts that you make and that I’ve bookmarked, I’m gonna have a field day, just carry on being yourself, keep posting genius

Maybe spend some time with the family rather than catalogue bookmarking an online stranger’s posts. Look forward to the intellectual discussion with the bloke that can’t tell the Cornes brothers apart!

 

[briztoon]

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal in '07, as did Schache in '15 and Dev Robertson in '19. Doesn't mean it translates to success in the next level.

Did a mini dive in on Schache. Brisbane drafted him at pick 2, did the whole Harley speculation of wanting to go home thing, Brisbane traded him after his second season to the Bulldogs for get this...pick 25 and 40...I would've burned down the world as a Lions fan.

There was a LOT of mental health stuff going on with Schache between his first and second season, and managing his second season and his trade back to Vic at the end of it was all about trying to keep the media off him and do what was best for him.

We packaged 25 & 20 to trade up to 15 and drafted Zac Bailey.

 

[Boohemian]

There was a LOT of mental health stuff going on with Schache between his first and second season, and managing his second season and his trade back to Vic at the end of it was all about trying to keep the media off him and do what was best for him.

We packaged 25 & 20 to trade up to 15 and drafted Zac Bailey.

If it resulted in Bailey in the end, good outcome. Schache was a peaheart though. Much in the same mould as Brander was for us. Telling that even Melbourne picked him up in their desperate pursuit of a KPF only to delist him.

 

[DorothyG]

 

[ThePuma #9]

Good write up, The Puma #9, some good points there, BUT you guys need a good experienced midfielder, so does the Crows, so does the Saints, so does the Swans, so does the Bombers and next year Port might be in that boat if their not in it already, and they don't grow on trees, all these clubs have a choice, to get someone in the WAFL, SANFL or the VFL who may/ may not even make it, which would mean another couple of years down the track or bite the bullet and get someone who will give it a go straight away and wont shirk the contest.

Picks and salary are always an interesting topic of conversation but whether he's on 900k a year which I doubt {front end of contract loaded} or much less, doesn't mean as much as it used to, when you have average players getting close to a million dollars a year then you know this is not 2010, so even for a player who has won two best & fairest awards then I'm not sure the money is quite the important factor it once was.

For it to happen a number of things need to occur so it will take an effort from both sides otherwise as they say in our great game, "play on"!

We might need an experienced midfielder but you can't trade players wherever you like and i'm pretty certain Simpkin isn't going to jump ship from a struggling side just to go to another one.

The cap next year is 18.7 million, 900k of that is 4.8% so it might not be a lot to clubs with a lot of cap space but those clubs again are at the foot of the ladder.

Let's play Devils advocate here.

He wants to leave but only to a contending VIC club such as Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn or Bulldogs.

Let's also say they can fit him into their cap, then what kind of deal would satisfy the Kangaroos faithful?

 

[briztoon]

If it resulted in Bailey in the end, good outcome. Schache was a peaheart though. Much in the same mould as Brander was for us. Telling that even Melbourne picked him up in their desperate pursuit of a KPF only to delist him.

I just told you there was a lot of mental health issues going on with Schache, the most serious kind, so that’s a real poor word to use. The club was doing it’s best for the kid, and football was the least of the club’s concerns.

 

[Boohemian]

I just told you there was a lot of mental health issues going on with Schache, the most serious kind, so that’s a real poor word to use. The club was doing it’s best for the kid, and football was the least of the club’s concerns.

No. The AFL is an elite sporting organisation. It's not a halfway house. These people voluntarily participate. If Schache had mental health issues, he seeks professional help and gets himself sorted. He doesn't pursue a career at the elite level at two additional clubs.

My choice of words were apt.

 

[The Talent Scout]

We have Baker and Graham. Why would we also want Simpkin? You're getting us confused with Essendon.

West Coast need an experienced midfielder, Baker & Graham aren't playing as full time mids, just because we've made the decision to give our younger lads more time in the middle doesn't mean if you got Jy that he would be spending all his time on a half back flank or half forward flank. While both of them may have stints in the engine room at times they are not midfielders.

 

[eaglevision]

West Coast need an experienced midfielder, Baker & Graham aren't playing as full time mids, just because we've made the decision to give our younger lads more time in the middle doesn't mean if you got Jy that he would be spending all his time on a half back flank or half forward flank. While both of them may have stints in the engine room at times they are not midfielders.

Zero interest in Simpkin from me TTS, will give you pick 2 for FOS though. You can grab CDT or slide and acquire Schubert.

 

[FatPizza]

No. The AFL is an elite sporting organisation. It's not a halfway house. These people voluntarily participate. If Schache had mental health issues, he seeks professional help and gets himself sorted. He doesn't pursue a career at the elite level at two additional clubs.

My choice of words were apt.

To be fair, there's always the chance a change of scenery would've helped with said mental issues. So giving it a second go somewhere closer to family etc. was probably worth a shot.

Whether you still want to classify that as 'pea-hearted' or not that's up to you, but giving the game away simply because it didn't work out at one club would potentially be even more 'pea-hearted'?

 

[mattyc75]

Cale Morton won the Larke Medal in '07, as did Schache in '15 and Dev Robertson in '19. Doesn't mean it translates to success in the next level.

Did a mini dive in on Schache. Brisbane drafted him at pick 2, did the whole Harley speculation of wanting to go home thing, Brisbane traded him after his second season to the Bulldogs for get this...pick 25 and 40...I would've burned down the world as a Lions fan.

If they kept him another year they wouldve gotten less

 

[Kegs15]

No. The AFL is an elite sporting organisation. It's not a halfway house. These people voluntarily participate. If Schache had mental health issues, he seeks professional help and gets himself sorted. He doesn't pursue a career at the elite level at two additional clubs.

My choice of words were apt.

Look this post actually comes across lamer than your original one.

Fully down for throwing around the word peaheart when it comes to the fantasy element of us schlubs on bigfooty criticising players on-field - Petch is a peaheart, Rioli is fat, Long is slow and Duggan can't kick and I'm happy throwing that out even though I'd probably go in less hard and am far fatter, slower and a worse kick etc etc. Schache really did come across like that on the field, yeah.

But doing it in response to a mental health context and then doubling down and saying he shouldn't keep trying to pursue his career, really? Mental health isn't this red light green light thing where you suddenly realise your light is red and you go sit yourself in the corner for however many years. Often takes years to figure out, more years to really know how to deal with and wildly fluctuating during that time. Continuing to pursue your dream in the face of all this uncertainty I'd say like FatPizza is the opposite of peahearted - especially with way more scrutiny and publicity than people having similar struggles in other fields.

Also 99% of professional treatment/treatment plans specifically target getting more involved and comfortable with your goals/pursuits even if they trigger your symptoms - behavioural activation for depression, graded exposure for anxiety/panic etc etc. Not sure what he was dealing with specifically but regardless good professional help would be aimed towards helping him do what he wanted to be doing with his life (presumably playing AFL) to the best of his abilities/confidence, not putting him in a box somewhere out of the way.

Doesn't always succeed but I'm not really sure what you expect of young guys in this situation - just seppuku their careers the second they're struggling with something for the sake of nobility to the sport?

 

[WCEswift]

Look this post actually comes across lamer than your original one.

Fully down for throwing around the word peaheart when it comes to the fantasy element of us schlubs on bigfooty criticising players on-field - Petch is a peaheart, Rioli is fat, Long is slow and Duggan can't kick and I'm happy throwing that out even though I'd probably go in less hard and am far fatter, slower and a worse kick etc etc. Schache really did come across like that on the field, yeah.

But doing it in response to a mental health context and then doubling down and saying he shouldn't keep trying to pursue his career, really? Mental health isn't this red light green light thing where you suddenly realise your light is red and you go sit yourself in the corner for however many years. Often takes years to figure out, more years to really know how to deal with and wildly fluctuating during that time. Continuing to pursue your dream in the face of all this uncertainty I'd say like FatPizza is the opposite of peahearted - especially with way more scrutiny and publicity than people having similar struggles in other fields.

Also 99% of professional treatment/treatment plans specifically target getting more involved and comfortable with your goals/pursuits even if they trigger your symptoms - behavioural activation for depression, graded exposure for anxiety/panic etc etc. Not sure what he was dealing with specifically but regardless good professional help would be aimed towards helping him do what he wanted to be doing with his life (presumably playing AFL) to the best of his abilities/confidence, not putting him in a box somewhere out of the way.

Doesn't always succeed but I'm not really sure what you expect of young guys in this situation - just seppuku their careers the second they're struggling with something for the sake of nobility to the sport?

Look at former NFL player Brandon brooks would have a panic attack mid game and have to leave the game injured, eventually retired wayyyyy to early for what would have been an elite career. In contrast Lane Johnson another NFL player admitted to battling depression but found a way and treatment that works for him and is a first ballot hall of famer. some people can get help and figure it out, some dont, its sad. I agree with you, just because someones demons might seem small to others doesnt meant it isnt a giant to them

 

[The Talent Scout]

We might need an experienced midfielder but you can't trade players wherever you like and i'm pretty certain Simpkin isn't going to jump ship from a struggling side just to go to another one.

The cap next year is 18.7 million, 900k of that is 4.8% so it might not be a lot to clubs with a lot of cap space but those clubs again are at the foot of the ladder.

Let's play Devils advocate here.

He wants to leave but only to a contending VIC club such as Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn or Bulldogs.

Let's also say they can fit him into their cap, then what kind of deal would satisfy the Kangaroos faithful?

Well in that instant I think we would ask for a first round pick probably anywhere between 6 & 12, of course there would be other picks going back and forth OR a player talent wise that plays a position of need, now lets play Gods advocate for a little bit, just say he doesn't care where he goes as long as he gets to play as a centre square midfielder, West Coast, Essendon, Sydney , Adelaide and St Kilda have the same problem whether they like it or not, the question then becomes what are they going to do about it?

Very true that you can't trade players wherever you like but at the moment its all hypothetical and as I've said, unless someone bites the bullet and says lets do it, he stays.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Zero interest in Simpkin from me TTS, will give you pick 2 for FOS though. You can grab CDT or slide and acquire Schubert.

Hey eaglevision, that's fair enough, yeah FOS looks a beauty, I wouldn't trade him for pick 1, we probably need a good defender like Xavier Taylor or even Jacob Farrow, Alastair does like good kicking skills so Josh Lindsay of a half back flank would be logical, also a developing key forward would be on the list, think we are going to have two or three picks in this draft after we lose our two rookie spots so the question becomes do we trade up for either Gold Coasts pick 6 which would require our 21 & 22 and a future second or future third or one of the Bombers picks after they finish the trade period will have some enticing picks.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Simpkin is a much better pickup then Starcevich and the price seems the same contract wise . Give North pick 30 odd and get it done