List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

[Keys]

Quick links

• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Yes
We should be doing more of it.

We just mollycoddle garbage players for way too long and thats why we have no spine and no success... Be RUTHLESS

I just got finished telling you that 19yo take time and here you spouting crazy shit like delisting 19yo players. Loco

 

[Mop]

It's amazing that so called experts who are paid to give their opinions can be so out of touch and show a complete lack of understanding/context while being so confident to the point of arrogance. Jenkins is the only one with a little bit of sense which says a lot as he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Would love for someone to call up and point Barrett on the spot and ask him to back up his opinions.

Blaming arrogance and saying everyone in footy saw WC downfall coming after 2018/19 is pure revisionism and there's probably never been a club lose so many stars at their peak in such a short time to reoccurring soft tissue injuries, concussions and impact injuries. Yes the drafting in that period was poor but we were a club who had played finals 5/6 seasons in a row while also travelling the most in the competiton by a long way, which then coincided with covid lockdowns and soft cap cuts that hurt us far greater than east coast teams.

He then talks about the club being the richest in the country but he clearly has no basic understanding of the soft cap or luxury tax works and that exceeding it is essentially untenable as it compounds year after year, and then what are you supposed to do, just sack the extra staff you hired?

How are you supposed to access the best talent in coaching and medical when we are so geographically isolated and not even able to spend the extra money to make the move worth it? Not to mention the club is run by the WAFC who probably don't want to piss away the same profits they use to fund WA footy on an insane tax.

He's pulling his hair out over us receiving one measly end of first round pick that will probably come in around 30 despite North, GC etc getting far more as assistance and the fact that basically all the current top teams have been rorting the draft in one way or another to a far greater extent for years now, which has created a far harsher rebuilding environtment today than at any time in the past.

Guy is a low IQ w***er and has been thieving a living for way too long.

The club stated today it already spends in excess of its soft cap - clearly biting back at some of the uneducated criticism

 

[rebel23]

Delisting the guy that was just named our Best Emerging Talent would certainly be ruthless.

It's a generalisation my man. Good standards are not followed by our players because they are comfortable of their list spot

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Imagine if we ruthlessly delisted that kid that didn’t play a senior game in three seasons on the rookie list then turned up to pre season out of shape.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Evans and Walley I don’t think will attract a bid due to injury and attitude. Williams might and I do wonder if we are holding out on Cripps pending this assessment.

**** Cripps FFS.

I Bet someone like the cats looks at Evans and says let's get him and see what he's got? Without his injury he would be drafted.

 

[wirra44]

Evans walley Williams won't get bid on at all? Given the all the criticism of us having all these NGAs under our noses and now being gifted rookie spots the way you've done makes perfect sense but if bid on, we will have to match.

Evans , Walley and Williams have been invited to the draft combine so there must be some level of interest specially when they have been invited over guys like Banfield and Whan.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Who waste their time listen to trade radio. Absolute horse shit journalism by a bunch of guys that are so out of touch of reality.

If you listens to muppets, you'll become one yourself

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It's a generalisation my man. Good standards are not followed by our players because they are comfortable of their list spot

You can’t say “they should all be delist candidates” then say you were just generalising.

If you name a bunch of players and say they’re all delist fodder you’re referring to the entire group of players you just named.

That’s how language is supposed to work.

 

[Obeanie1]

But with pick dilution, potentially only 1,2 & Hawks R1 will be in the top 25 picks. That sucks.

19 and 20 will end up mid 20's. 25 to 27 IMO.

We landed Shanahan at 30 last year.

Rodreguez, Swaddling and Curtin will all be there around those picks. And others.

 

[Obeanie1]

Who waste their time listen to trade radio. Absolute horse shit journalism by a bunch of guys that are so out of touch of reality.

If you listens to muppets, you'll become one yourself

I gave up on trade radio years ago.

Tune in after lunch on the last day and you see some action. Until then dont bother.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

The club stated today it already spends in excess of its soft cap - clearly biting back at some of the uneducated criticism

Where was that said?

Hopefully they continue to become more outspoken and proactive rather than passive and reactive, it's gotten us nowhere.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

It's amazing that so called experts who are paid to give their opinions can be so out of touch and show a complete lack of understanding/context while being so confident to the point of arrogance. Jenkins is the only one with a little bit of sense which says a lot as he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Would love for someone to call up and point Barrett on the spot and ask him to back up his opinions.

Blaming arrogance and saying everyone in footy saw WC downfall coming after 2018/19 is pure revisionism and there's probably never been a club lose so many stars at their peak in such a short time to reoccurring soft tissue injuries, concussions and impact injuries. Yes the drafting in that period was poor but we were a club who had played finals 5/6 seasons in a row while also travelling the most in the competiton by a long way, which then coincided with covid lockdowns and soft cap cuts that hurt us far greater than east coast teams.

He then talks about the club being the richest in the country but he clearly has no basic understanding of the soft cap or luxury tax works and that exceeding it is essentially untenable as it compounds year after year, and then what are you supposed to do, just sack the extra staff you hired?

How are you supposed to access the best talent in coaching and medical when we are so geographically isolated and not even able to spend the extra money to make the move worth it? Not to mention the club is run by the WAFC who probably don't want to piss away the same profits they use to fund WA footy on an insane tax.

He's pulling his hair out over us receiving one measly end of first round pick that will probably come in around 30 despite North, GC etc getting far more as assistance and the fact that basically all the current top teams have been rorting the draft in one way or another to a far greater extent for years now, which has created a far harsher rebuilding environtment today than at any time in the past.

Guy is a low IQ w***er and has been thieving a living for way too long.

He is trying to use what is known as a Gish Gallop strategy. You put together a bunch of weak and/or illogical arguments that don't stack up at all on an individual basis when examined. But if you can put 5 or 6 of them together and throw them out all at once the sheer number of them becomes difficult and time consuming to refute and to an unintelligent audience it sounds compelling. The volume of arguments sounds convincing even though they are all very weak individually. It only works on dumb people, but it does work.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

 

[MrWoollie]

We should absolutely not trade picks 19 & 20, before Oscar compo and academies rort, for starcevich.

Of course we are committed though.

&.

That's the first time I've seen an '&' rather than an 'or'.
'Or' is risky enough given the concussion situation. '&' would be beyond dumb.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Where was that said?

Hopefully they continue to become more outspoken and proactive rather than passive and reactive, it's gotten us nowhere.

End of the official statement.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Who waste their time listen to trade radio. Absolute horse shit journalism by a bunch of guys that are so out of touch of reality.

If you listens to muppets, you'll become one yourself

Not wrong but it's frustrating when they are gifted so much air time and get little to no pushback and consequently are able to dictate narratives and shape outcomes. We could use some pro WC heads in the media actively calling out and rebutting this type of low effort and biased analysis.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

End of the official statement.

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Cheers

 

[Boohemian]

Not wrong but it's frustrating when they are gifted so much air time and get little to no pushback and consequently are able to dictate narratives and shape outcomes. We could use some pro WC heads in the media actively calling out and rebutting this type of low effort and biased analysis.

Do they really shape outcomes though?

It's all nonsense.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Hall - I don't think he'll be a long term player.

Didn't realise Badge had an alt account.

 

[Goroyals22]

It's amazing that so called experts who are paid to give their opinions can be so out of touch and show a complete lack of understanding/context while being so confident to the point of arrogance. Jenkins is the only one with a little bit of sense which says a lot as he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Would love for someone to call up and point Barrett on the spot and ask him to back up his opinions.

Blaming arrogance and saying everyone in footy saw WC downfall coming after 2018/19 is pure revisionism and there's probably never been a club lose so many stars at their peak in such a short time to reoccurring soft tissue injuries, concussions and impact injuries. Yes the drafting in that period was poor but we were a club who had played finals 5/6 seasons in a row while also travelling the most in the competiton by a long way, which then coincided with covid lockdowns and soft cap cuts that hurt us far greater than east coast teams.

He then talks about the club being the richest in the country but he clearly has no basic understanding of the soft cap or luxury tax works and that exceeding it is essentially untenable as it compounds year after year, and then what are you supposed to do, just sack the extra staff you hired?

How are you supposed to access the best talent in coaching and medical when we are so geographically isolated and not even able to spend the extra money to make the move worth it? Not to mention the club is run by the WAFC who probably don't want to piss away the same profits they use to fund WA footy on an insane tax.

He's pulling his hair out over us receiving one measly end of first round pick that will probably come in around 30 despite North, GC etc getting far more as assistance and the fact that basically all the current top teams have been rorting the draft in one way or another to a far greater extent for years now, which has created a far harsher rebuilding environtment today than at any time in the past.

Guy is a low IQ w***er and has been thieving a living for way too long.

I started writing down some points to ring up and have a friendly discussion with him however I am still in work time at the time this came up.. if he starts his carry on again I’ll try and see if I can get on to have a go at him , even though I don’t think we should have assistance there are factors way outside our control… and I just love the we should have traded our best players which would have resulted in where we are anyway

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

He is trying to use what is known as a Gish Gallop strategy. You put together a bunch of weak and/or illogical arguments that don't stack up at all on an individual basis when examined. But if you can put 5 or 6 of them together and throw them out all at once the sheer number of them becomes difficult and time consuming to refute and to an unintelligent audience it sounds compelling. The volume of arguments sounds convincing even though they are all very weak individually. It only works on dumb people, but it does work.

Exactly what it is, and they love using terms like "everyone could see" to imply some sort of unanimity/consensus that has no basis in reality.

Interesting that Barrett was intelligent enough to predict that we'd have unprecedented levels of career ending/derailing injuries to guys at their peak but he didn't have the same foresight when it came to massive soft cap cuts being one of the key factors in that potentially happening. Somehow he has only just come up with the idea that perhaps a geographically isolated club who has a far smaller talent pool to tap into for coaches/medical staff and has a far greater travel burden shouldn't be limited in spending their own money to counter the disadvantages of those realities.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I started writing down some points to ring up and have a friendly discussion with him however I am still in work time at the time this came up.. if he starts his carry on again I’ll try and see if I can get on to have a go at him , even though I don’t think we should have assistance there are factors way outside our control… and I just love the we should have traded our best players which would have resulted in where we are anyway

Let us know if you get around to it because I can't suffer through the torture that is trade radio

 

[Goroyals22]

Let us know if you get around to it because I can't suffer through the torture that is trade radio

I get close then go what’s the point… you can’t make stupid smarter

 

[WCE777]

Twomey reporting WC are interested in Tom Blamires from Frankston who won the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell medal recently.
Some of his highlights look half decent.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Do they really shape outcomes though?

It's all nonsense.

Media 100% shapes outcomes and a lot of them are mouthpieces for the AFL. They're talking heads that are used to test out public response to things before they're introduced and to create the false perception of consensus on certain topics.