List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

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  Career

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  Last 5

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  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

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  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

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  G

  1.0

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  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

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  M

  1.7

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  T

  1.3

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  G

  0.7

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  D

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  K

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  HB

  3.2

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  M

  2.8

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  T

  1.6

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  G

  0.6

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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Astro7]

Bit in this conversation.

Great overview!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Say hypothetically we trade up to secure pick 7.

Pick 7 is worth 1,543 points.

Pick 17 (Hawks) is worth 879 points.
Pick 24 (AFL compo after Allen, TDK, Silvagni, Draper & Worpel) is worth 621 points.

That's still 43 points in arrears.

We're going to have to offer the Chesser pick or Hawks second as well you'd think to have a chance otherwise why would GC do the trade?

It would also mean splitting pick 2 will be much harder to achieve as we'd have little to offer on top of that top pick and i doubt we split for a top 5 pick and a later first as we just packaged up a few to move up the draft.

Bombers could trade for Pick 1 but i'd expect 5 & 6 outright.

Pick 1 is worth 3000 points, whilst 6 is worth 1659 points and 7 worth 1543 so it's only an additional 454 going by the index but would we really want to give up the number 1 pick?

Because Pick 1 is 3000 points
Pick 3 is 2178 points

'm not strong at maths, but that's a lot bigger difference than 43, the threat of bids should be a real threat.....

 

[shooshka]

Say hypothetically we trade up to secure pick 7.

Pick 7 is worth 1,543 points.

Pick 17 (Hawks) is worth 879 points.
Pick 24 (AFL compo after Allen, TDK, Silvagni, Draper & Worpel) is worth 621 points.

That's still 43 points in arrears.

We're going to have to offer the Chesser pick or Hawks second as well you'd think to have a chance otherwise why would GC do the trade?

It would also mean splitting pick 2 will be much harder to achieve as we'd have little to offer on top of that top pick and i doubt we split for a top 5 pick and a later first as we just packaged up a few to move up the draft.

Bombers could trade for Pick 1 but i'd expect 5 & 6 outright.

Pick 1 is worth 3000 points, whilst 6 is worth 1659 points and 7 worth 1543 so it's only an additional 454 going by the index but would we really want to give up the number 1 pick?

We’ll have picks/points coming in for Chesser & Ryan - so a little extra to get #7 won’t be hard.

Bombers - if they hold 6/7/8 they also have 25/26 (or wherever they end up after compo).

5 inside 25, not sure they will be super keen to split to get a 6th pick. Absolutely they may look at futures, but clearly our F1 should be off limits as it is certain top 3 in a less compromised draft

 

[WCE777]

Bit in this conversation.

Great interview and insights

 

[Mr Q]

If another team snipes him in the rookie draft they have to take on his contract.

I would be more worried if we delisted yeo he just wouldn't nominate for the rookie draft and pocket the cash .

Their are much less risky options to rookie

With someone like Yeo - or Cripps - you'd have discussed it with the player first and have their buy in before you'd try it. Given it makes three fifths of **** all difference to them financially or as ability to play, all they'd have to assess would be whether the risk of another club coming in is real.

With the likes of Barnett or Johnston who are at the fringes of the squad, and likely to be at the end of their careers without that lifeline, you are more free to just dictate that's what's going to happen.

 

[Goroyals22]

 

[WCE777]

I wouldn't be surprised if his a chance of growing 1-3cm's taller then his listed draft height of 203cm

yes, its clear watching him play that he is only out reached by Witts/Gawn/English so wouldn't surprise me if he is pushing 205cm

 

[Eastern Rangers]

“Four mini-draft selections over two years to on-trade access to star 17-year-olds for following drafts”.

Get on the phone immediately to get pick 1 and 2 in the 2026 mini draft and take Axel and Angus. 2027 1R and 2R should be enough.

What would we need to trade for Axel Walsh? A mature ruck option, plus a 2027 1st round pick at a minimum?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/there-will-be-no-centre-bounces-in-afl-games-from-2026-with-five-players-on-the-bench-as-sub-rule-axed/news-story/c3fc6253ff16aa38322394955c3e1562

Getting rid of the bounce should mean that there should be a ban on rucks going past the centre line in centre square ball ups. No need to do so if ball going straight up. Put an emphasis on jumping rather than just bodying opponent rucks. Would help B Will / Archer given vertical leap / height.

 

[Mr Q]

Say hypothetically we trade up to secure pick 7.

Pick 7 is worth 1,543 points.

Pick 17 (Hawks) is worth 879 points.
Pick 24 (AFL compo after Allen, TDK, Silvagni, Draper & Worpel) is worth 621 points.

That's still 43 points in arrears.

If it comes with an agreement that we don't bid on GC's academy picks with 1+2, that more than makes up the difference (or a friendly threat that if they don't do it, we absolutely bid on Uwland at #1 then Patterson at no later than #3).

I would expect that the above comes with a handshake agreement that we don't trade 1/2 though.

 

[Mop]

Barnett was never dominant in the ruck. Always lacked strength but was good enough in the ruck whilst being super athletic.
Tim English lite. He wasn't playable until 22 and "good" until 25

I'm referring to his underage career, not since we drafted him

 

[Hasselhough]

If I was Essendon with 3 picks in a row (5,6,7), I'd be interested in trading one for 2 late first rounders - allows them to get a sliding tall or mid instead of reaching for one at 7.

Probably gives us Sharp as well as pick 1 and 2.

I don't think essendon will be getting band 1 for draiper . He is an unrestricted free agent and Brisbane don't have to over pay to make sure they get him

 

[eaglevision]

What would we need to trade for Axel Walsh? A mature ruck option, plus a 2027 1st round pick at a minimum?

Important to find out what Tassie’s list build targets are. Our 2027 1R would be very appealing likely leaving them with 4 of the top 6 selections.

2027 R1,R2 and the Williams brothers for pick 1,2 and maybe their end 1R pick back.

Obviously depends on how our other talls develop.

 

[InTheWings]

If it comes with an agreement that we don't bid on GC's academy picks with 1+2, that more than makes up the difference (or a friendly threat that if they don't do it, we absolutely bid on Uwland at #1 then Patterson at no later than #3).

I would expect that the above comes with a handshake agreement that we don't trade 1/2 though.

In this scenario, the fact that it would present a points deficit to CG would be too obvious that we had done a deal around bidding, and we could get done for draft tampering (AFL cited this a few years ago).

Maybe add a pick around 39/40 to our offer?

Alternatively, we could utilise the picks we get for Ryan and Chesser somehow.

 

[Couchpotato]

I don't think essendon will be getting band 1 for draiper . He is an unrestricted free agent and Brisbane don't have to over pay to make sure they get him

I assumed Merret / Hawks pick - but that's actually pick 8. So Essendon would have pick 4, 5 and 8 and we'd try to get 5 with 2 of our late firsts.

Assuming we can agree with Richmond and Essendon not to take Sharp, we'd likely do the trade. Whether Essendon would I'm not sure - as mentioned above they already have 5 or 6 in the top 25.

Gold Coast is the easiest pathway up, just whether Essendon and Richmond both overlook Sharp twice is the risk we take.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

In this scenario, the fact that it would present a points deficit to CG would be too obvious that we had done a deal around bidding, and we could get done for draft tampering (AFL cited this a few years ago).

Maybe add a pick around 39/40 to our offer?

Alternatively, we could utilise the picks we get for Ryan and Chesser somehow.

Could potentially add in some futures, can't make a straight points calculation from that. Gc can easily bust out the old "we're confident in our hand this year so moved to improve our options for next year"

 

[Convocation]

https://archive.md/ZbHe6

 

[rko121]

I think if all the reports are true about St Kilda offering pick 7 to GC for Flanders and if GC take it, I would definitely be having a chat with GC to trade pick 2 and 20 for picks 6,7,13. I think it is a win-win for both clubs, promise them we won’t bid on Uwland with 1 and they walk away with one of CDT or Duursma alongside Uwland and we end up with 1,6,7,13,15,19,34 and 52 to hopefully draft 4-5 elite kids alongside our NGA’s while also setting up our hand for next years draft by asking for future selections for both Chesser and Ryan.

 

[Hasselhough]

Could potentially add in some futures, can't make a straight points calculation from that. Gc can easily bust out the old "we're confident in our hand this year so moved to improve our options for next year"

Or involve Carlton and saints with chesser and ryan to muddy the waters even more .

Saints have pick 8 on the table for flanders .

Saints out 8 + f2stk
In flanders + ryan

Gc out 7 + Flanders + Davies
In curnow + 21

Carlton out curnow + 11 (TDK compo)
In pick 2 + 22 + chesser + F2 stk

West coast out 2 + 21 + 22 + chesser + ryan
For 7+ 8 + 11 + Davies

 

[TheBudgies]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/there-will-be-no-centre-bounces-in-afl-games-from-2026-with-five-players-on-the-bench-as-sub-rule-axed/news-story/c3fc6253ff16aa38322394955c3e1562

Getting rid of the bounce should mean that there should be a ban on rucks going past the centre line in centre square ball ups. No need to do so if ball going straight up. Put an emphasis on jumping rather than just bodying opponent rucks. Would help B Will / Archer given vertical leap / height.

B Will isn't terrible at getting his hand on the ball as it is. The problem is that he's obsessed with hitting the ball straight to the opposition.

 

[Obeanie1]

20 odd probably keeps all interested parties happy. (AFL)

Lions are landing a quality FF and a quality ruck for zero draft cost.

Plus discounted access to the best mid in the draft.

After winning back to back flags playing in their 3rd GF in a row.

How much more happy do they need to be?

 

[Obeanie1]

With someone like Yeo - or Cripps - you'd have discussed it with the player first and have their buy in before you'd try it. Given it makes three fifths of **** all difference to them financially or as ability to play, all they'd have to assess would be whether the risk of another club coming in is real.

With the likes of Barnett or Johnston who are at the fringes of the squad, and likely to be at the end of their careers without that lifeline, you are more free to just dictate that's what's going to happen.

Cripps won't be stolen if delisted and redrafted as a rookie.

 

[eaglevision]

Good, one less opportunity for us to overpay.

 

[Donkers]

Cripps won't be stolen if delisted and redrafted as a rookie.

If Cripps was delisted to be moved to the rookie list and was drafted elsewhere i'm pretty sure he would retire. He'll be 34 just after the start of next year. I really can't see anyone going down that path.

 

[Elite Pete]

If another team snipes him in the rookie draft they have to take on his contract.

I would be more worried if we delisted yeo he just wouldn't nominate for the rookie draft and pocket the cash .

Their are much less risky options to rookie

Even if he’s delisted? Other sports I think it works that way but doubt the afl works that way.

Can he nominate $700k on his head and still get rookie listed?