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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Coaches votes v West Coast

R1 - Gold Coast: Jarrod Witts 10 votes
R3 - Fremantle: Luke Jackson 8 votes
R7 - Hawthorn: Lloyd Meek 9 votes
R8 - Melbourne: Max Gawn 10 votes
R10 - St Kilda: Rowan Marshall 2 votes
R11 - Adelaide: Reilly O’Brien 5 votes

In 6 of 11 games the opposition ruck has received coaches votes - 4 times they’ve been outright or equal BOG

We need to be more competitive in the ruck and no doubt Cameron would provide that but there’s two major issues

Firstly, he’s only a short to medium term solution who would give us 3 years, 5 if we were really lucky, before someone else would need to take over

Secondly, it’s the trade premium we’d need to pay for an out of contract, required player at a contending team. Collingwood would justifiably ask for the Hawthorn R1 pick. It’s roughly what we paid for Baker and a R2 pick short of what we received for Barrass

That Hawthorn pick might be good enough to get Cody Curtin

So Cameron would be handy but I worry about the cost for a short term solution
 
Sounds like it’s a fait accompli that we’ll be taking Tom McCarthy on Wednesday.

Not 100% on taking a 24 year who was reportedly playing Div 2 football only a year or so ago.

Seems to have come into the Richmond VFL side from about Round 6 in 2024. Lots of 10 to 19 possession games last year when he was supposedly a mid and now is playing half back averaging about 22 disposals but no real standout games stats wise.

Do we really need another half back with midfield potential? I would have thought that the biggest ball pig inside mid across the lower leagues would have been the more obvious choice? Or a monster ruckman that can win hitouts to break even with the rucks that seem to be tearing us a new one every other week.

Between the above and an underwhelming highlights video I’m not sold early doors.
 
Sounds like it’s a fait accompli that we’ll be taking Tom McCarthy on Wednesday.

Not 100% on taking a 24 year who was reportedly playing Div 2 football only a year or so ago.

Seems to have come into the Richmond VFL side from about Round 6 in 2024. Lots of 10 to 19 possession games last year when he was supposedly a mid and now is playing half back averaging about 22 disposals but no real standout games stats wise.

Do we really need another half back with midfield potential? I would have thought that the biggest ball pig inside mid across the lower leagues would have been the more obvious choice? Or a monster ruckman that can win hitouts to break even with the rucks that seem to be tearing us a new one every other week.

Between the above and an underwhelming highlights video I’m not sold early doors.
MSD is and always should be about drafting players with afl attributes.

Not a Greg Clark that dominates at wafl level but is not effective in the afl as he wasn’t really above average in any facet.
 
Coaches votes v West Coast

R1 - Gold Coast: Jarrod Witts 10 votes
R3 - Fremantle: Luke Jackson 8 votes
R7 - Hawthorn: Lloyd Meek 9 votes
R8 - Melbourne: Max Gawn 10 votes
R10 - St Kilda: Rowan Marshall 2 votes
R11 - Adelaide: Reilly O’Brien 5 votes

In 6 of 11 games the opposition ruck has received coaches votes - 4 times they’ve been outright or equal BOG

We need to be more competitive in the ruck and no doubt Cameron would provide that but there’s two major issues

Firstly, he’s only a short to medium term solution who would give us 3 years, 5 if we were really lucky, before someone else would need to take over

Secondly, it’s the trade premium we’d need to pay for an out of contract, required player at a contending team. Collingwood would justifiably ask for the Hawthorn R1 pick. It’s roughly what we paid for Baker and a R2 pick short of what we received for Barrass

That Hawthorn pick might be good enough to get Cody Curtin

So Cameron would be handy but I worry about the cost for a short term solution
100% correct, we need to trade for an experienced ruckman and draft a young ruckman.
MSD soon, I’m actually really not that excited to hear the word on the street is we will draft another HBF.
 

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Barnett showed a bit in his last game, dont write him off yet. Cameron only if its pick 59, hes to old for what our needs are in the short & long term.
nah Barnett's gone.

Should be doing a lot more in the wafl than he is.

I had high hopes too but gone unfortunately

Cameron will be a 1st rounder, Pies won't look at anything less, chuck em Barnett too
 
Barnett showed a bit in his last game, dont write him off yet. Cameron only if its pick 59, hes to old for what our needs are in the short & long term.

Are you Barnett?

You've made these types of comments a few times now and let's just say, you're going against the grain a bit.
 
"The position the Eagles are in..." Is that our ruck stocks are absolutely uncompetitive and opposition ruckman set records and have career best games regularly.

I don't like us bringing in 30yr olds as much as the next bloke, but you're on crack if you don't think Cameron for pick 30 in a crap draft and Bailey Williams isn't a huge win.

13-20 (Hawks first) + Williams is borderline and I wouldn't be keen… which is probably where I reckon it'll end up tbh. Maybe a pick upgrade coming our way.


Need to find a way to get Busslinger over I reckon.
I dont see it as a huge win.

Sure he will improve the 23 buf for what 3 or 4 years.

Not worth it
 
I dont see it as a huge win.

Sure he will improve the 23 buf for what 3 or 4 years.

Not worth it
Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Daicos x 2, Hill, etc would make Flynn and BBW look awesome too.

I think Cameron would look pretty much like Flynn in our side

Rather just build the midfield around battlers for now Rather than waste a good pick

But I'm 100% sure we've promised him like Baker
 
Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Daicos x 2, Hill, etc would make Flynn and BBW look awesome too.

I think Cameron would look pretty much like Flynn in our side

Rather just build the midfield around battlers for now Rather than waste a good pick

But I'm 100% sure we've promised him like Baker
Would have been awesome if it is a salary dump Grundy type of situation.
 
I dont see it as a huge win.

Sure he will improve the 23 buf for what 3 or 4 years.

Not worth it

I agree it's definitely not a guaranteed win, nor is hitting the draft and being shit at stoppages again, but it IS a different route our list management could go down.

Depends on what they want to prioritise now. I reckon the Eagles ruck floggings have been put in the spotlight a bit and they might actually look at it.

Even Simpson calling the commentary sounds like he's pulling his hair out with Flynn.

Just like trading away last year's draft pick to "buy us a few more wins with Baker, Graham and Owies..." 👀 I could now see them doing similar with Cameron to appease the masses.
 
Coaches votes v West Coast

R1 - Gold Coast: Jarrod Witts 10 votes
R3 - Fremantle: Luke Jackson 8 votes
R7 - Hawthorn: Lloyd Meek 9 votes
R8 - Melbourne: Max Gawn 10 votes
R10 - St Kilda: Rowan Marshall 2 votes
R11 - Adelaide: Reilly O’Brien 5 votes

In 6 of 11 games the opposition ruck has received coaches votes - 4 times they’ve been outright or equal BOG

We need to be more competitive in the ruck and no doubt Cameron would provide that but there’s two major issues

Firstly, he’s only a short to medium term solution who would give us 3 years, 5 if we were really lucky, before someone else would need to take over

Secondly, it’s the trade premium we’d need to pay for an out of contract, required player at a contending team. Collingwood would justifiably ask for the Hawthorn R1 pick. It’s roughly what we paid for Baker and a R2 pick short of what we received for Barrass

That Hawthorn pick might be good enough to get Cody Curtin

So Cameron would be handy but I worry about the cost for a short term solution
Massive repercussions down the track if we overpay for cameron.

This years second round pick should be the max we offer up.
 

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Hutch was recruited as a forward so not a bad idea to chuck him down there.

At least to pressure
He's a logical Cripps replacement.

Cripps was a bargain pickup. I'd argue the best value for pickup trade we've done.
But his time is done and Hutch is the obvious.

Edit - Cameron. Sure he'd improve our team but no matter what he offers he'll be gone before we challenge. Probably gone before we touch top 8.
Therefore, unless basically free, why bother?
 
He's a logical Cripps replacement.

Cripps was a bargain pickup. I'd argue the best value for pickup trade we've done.
But his time is done and Hutch is the obvious.

Edit - Cameron. Sure he'd improve our team but no matter what he offers he'll be gone before we challenge. Probably gone before we touch top 8.
Therefore, unless basically free, why bother?
I think we may bother because he helps provide the structure there a good midfield develops around. A transitional pick perhaps.
 
The Pies don't wanna lose Cameron, and will only consider it with a really good trade in their favour. The Pies need him a lot more than us. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. In no way, will we be able to dictate terms. We have to walk away. Only way is to wait a year and PSD him next year, if he agrees to it, and we are still at the bottom of the ladder (which seems likely).
 
The Pies don't wanna lose Cameron, and will only consider it with a really good trade in their favour. The Pies need him a lot more than us. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. In no way, will we be able to dictate terms.
we can't seem to walk away from these things..

1. He will be an Eagle
2. We will use a 1st
3. He will be underwhelming for us
 

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All 100% correct in terms of what Pies will ask for. Might be an unpopular opinion here but I’d trade Ryan and the Williams brothers for Cameron and Ed Allan.
Didn't someone on here mention that they were after Oscar and as a part of us not matching they'd let Allen and Cameron go cheaper.
 
Didn't someone on here mention that they were after Oscar and as a part of us not matching they'd let Allen and Cameron go cheaper.
I think we hold little leverage in that regard. Every club would know that as long as they hit band 1 there’s no way we’d match.

Very happy to talk to Collingwood about a player swap for Cameron, he’d be a fantastic addition but not too keen on paying picks for him, we need them to package up for Port’s pick from GCS.
 
Gavin Bell on SEN said a decision on Waterman’s treatment will be made today as they will need to know if they need to take a second MSD pick

Said it’s a significant injury and the choice is surgery or managed rehab

Wasn’t giving much away as to what was most likely but sounded very much like they’re expecting the worst and he will be ruled out for the year
 
The Pies don't wanna lose Cameron, and will only consider it with a really good trade in their favour. The Pies need him a lot more than us. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. In no way, will we be able to dictate terms. We have to walk away. Only way is to wait a year and PSD him next year, if he agrees to it, and we are still at the bottom of the ladder (which seems likely).
You mentioned the PSD and it's not specifically aimed at you.

The PSD threat or used, hasn't been utilised since, ball and or a port player? That was about 20 years ago?

Its a non event, no point even bringing it up. Wherever a player wants to go, it happens.
 
You mentioned the PSD and it's not specifically aimed at you.

The PSD threat or used, hasn't been utilised since, ball and or a port player? That was about 20 years ago?

Its a non event, no point even bringing it up. Wherever a player wants to go, it happens.
Jack Martin in 2019.

Went from GC to Carlton.
 
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