List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Ruben Grubarb]

If we have 2 we offer it up to anyone if they want to trade up for Duursma or CDT, if we could get a pick 5 for Rodriguez/Lindsay or something + another first round pick to use this year I think that'd be good.

If we keep pick 2 I agree that Duursma, at least for now is our guy

Rodriguez has been good, without being outstanding. So it's either Duursma, or trade and try get Lindsay and Fred. If one of those guys are gone, Curtin.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I'd take Dev for free. I'd consider Hobbs at the right price. I have no interest in Erasmus, Phillips, or Sheldricks.

Why?

 

[Lazzas]

Sharp go first, can do it all inside and out.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Why?

1. I still think Dev can play. But also acknowledge there's a good chance he's a bust. Happy to take him and play him for a season. And I don't have a hard for Dev either. If he's available for free, I'd give him a shot. I wouldn't be chasing him.
2. Phillips looks slow. Erasmus land Sheldrick lacks class. Sheldrick might cost, as well. One of these guys could be good. But I don't want.

 

[stallon]

Rodriguez has been good, without being outstanding. So it's either Duursma, or trade and try get Lindsay and Fred. If one of those guys are gone, Curtin.

Yeah he was just an example, id take pick 5+15 over pick 2 is the gist, at this early stage

 

[stallon]

Regardless of whether we think Erasmus/Phillips/Sheldrick are any good, its still a dire list need to have some midfield depth that can dominate WAFL and step into the AFL side to do a role.
All 3 of those guys have upside, having never been allowed to own a role in their teams due to just having better/more talented players ahead of them.

100% a good decision to add one of them

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Yeah he was just an example, id take pick 5+15 over pick 2 is the gist, at this early stage

We have to see how it settles once all the champs games are done. One problem is the trustworthiness of these so called "experts". At the moment they have Sharp 14. It's way off the mark. He's the best player there so far. If we think we can get Lindsay and Rodriguez, I'd probably split. But if Duursma has two more games like that first one, I'm happy with a Sharp/Duursma one two.

Twomey was onto Langford early last season and seemed to be the only one really bullish on him. Will be interesting as to what his phantom order is as soon as the champs is over.

 

[TerryFilk]

Dempsey's one of the most versatile players going round at the moment.
Forgot the lol for terry

He’s a good wingman who hits the scoreboard, he’s a role player, Max Holmes is a genuine star, on the cusp of superstardom and is a top 1-3 transition midfielder in the game.

I won’t forget the lol, because Dempsey over Holmes is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

This is Rookie Me Central's reasoning on Sharp's #14 ranking:

Q: Why isn’t Dyson Sharp (#14) ranked higher?

A: To say this was a frequently asked question is an understatement. Sharp has long been touted as a potential top prospect for 2025, but we often see with dominant, physically ready inside midfielders that their top-age rankings waver compared to their underage campaigns.

From a performance perspective, especially after his best afield outing against Vic Metro, Sharp should arguably be higher ranked. But the Power Rankings aren’t solely based on that – there’s more of a crystal ball mindset. So, while Sharp has a higher floor than others, he also has a lower ceiling.

Perhaps the archetype of such players is James Worpel, who dominated his peers at junior level and was ready to hit the ground running in the AFL. Sharp, who has senior experience under his belt, will almost undoubtedly also become a very solid top level player in quick time.

Currently, his ball use – particularly his kicking – and running – particularly his speed – are of concern. More of the same output would make him undeniable in the top 10, but we’re ranking with a scope to how AFL football is progressing.

Those two traits (ball use and speed) are crucial to thriving in how the game is currently played. Although, few other players can hold a candle to Sharp’s level of competitiveness and contested craft – it’s a tough call to make, tough attributes to balance.

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I agree that his floor is lower (and higher). If you're that sort of player and you're not elite, you're almost a liability. But to get the player like that who is the real deal - you can pretty much only get him in the top 5.

And everyone knows there's a real emphasis on transition from D50 to F50 via run and carry, or elite foot skills. But you still have to have muscle. You have to be constantly winning contests to make your transition players (read: outsiders) effective. And you do this by having, amongst other things, but most importantly, a dominant midfield. That means a good mix of bull and balanced.

So far at this champs, he's the best player, who's been the most influential on the most dominant team n the champs. You have to take him at #1.

 

[stallon]

Lol Holmes EASILY over Dempsey WTF is going on here.

Id take Holmes on a wing over Dempsey on a wing, let alone in the role hes best at

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Lol Holmes EASILY over Dempsey WTF is going on here.

Fent. Probably.

 

[Cuzz09]

Lol Holmes EASILY over Dempsey WTF is going on here.

Id take Holmes on a wing over Dempsey on a wing, let alone in the role hes best at

my only thought was Dempsey is the same age as Harley so will play longer.

 

[stallon]

my only thought was Dempsey is the same age as Harley so will play longer.

Dempsey is 2 years older than Harley lmao.
Holmes is 4 months and a week older than Dempsey

 

[Farang83150]

He’s a good wingman who hits the scoreboard, he’s a role player, Max Holmes is a genuine star, on the cusp of superstardom and is a top 1-3 transition midfielder in the game.

I won’t forget the lol, because Dempsey over Holmes is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard.

Am I meant to GAF that you won't forget something?

 

[dinnaz]

My track record is very good. Everyone here had a cry when we took Judd over Pollack. I was almost the only one happy with Judd. Why? Not because I knew Judd would be a better player (because i didn't), but because I wanted a midfielder and didn't want a KPD.

Did bigfooty even exist back then

A couple of year back I said I wouldn't take Tsatas in the top 10. The other guy in that draft that i wasn't keen on was Jye Clarke.

A bit of a mellow draft year, Tsatas & Clark should have showed more than they have. Tsatas was clearly 8-12 as a winger, but I don't think anyone was overly keen on them here though?

I don't get them all right, but I know what the percentages are. Not saying it's you, but there are some posters on here who get it wrong all the time and don't have any awareness about it.

The problem with your Cox/Brodie analogy? It's like me saying you'd pick a Patrick Cripps over a Jack Watts. It means nothing.

You: I know Sharp will be like Will Brodie. I know CDT will be like Dean Cox.
Me: I don't know. I accept Sharp might be Brodie and CDT might be Cox. But I also know Sharp may be Cripps, and CDT maybe Tim English. We need another bull. It is extremely hard to find a good enough bull outside the top 5, so take the punt. Conversely there are many examples of good ruckman found outside the first round.

Your view is based on the misguided idea that you think you know how players will turn out. This is insanely arrogant. Mine is based on historical data and percentages.

I never said thats how they turn out. I just offered the scenario you seem to ignore based on what I only can imagine is watching too much fox footy. Sharp probably ends up a slightly better Brent Stanton? IDK, comparisons suck but he ain't "the next midfield bull you can place your house on for 40 clearances a game OMG we must have him for reasons"

Do your years of historical data consist of more than salivating over the top 20 of every draft since 2000?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Did bigfooty even exist back then

A bit of a mellow draft year, Tsatas & Clark should have showed more than they have. Tsatas was clearly 8-12 as a winger, but I don't think anyone was overly keen on them here though?

I never said thats how they turn out. I just offered the scenario you seem to ignore based on what I only can imagine is watching too much fox footy. Sharp probably ends up a slightly better Brent Stanton? IDK, comparisons suck but he ain't "the next midfield bull you can place your house on for 40 clearances a game OMG we must have him for reasons"

Do your years of historical data consist of more than salivating over the top 20 of every draft since 2000?

Tsatas was getting 40+ touches in the CTL. People were saying he was a balanced mid. Quite a few here wanted him. Guess what my position was? "He's an outsider, gtfo". It's some real broken record shit.

I rarely watch Fox Footy. I've explained before that these guys see footy in weekly cycles. They have to think about it that way because viewers want them to discuss topical trends (i.e. what happened last week, what might happen this week). I don't think that way, nor talk that way. My "type of player" draft strategy doesn't come from fox footy, and doesn't come from any other poster. No one else has ever said that stuff.

I'm not saying Sharp will be Cripps. I understand very well that he could be Cripps, but could be Worpel. I've explained my reasons for wanting to draft him, ad nauseum. I wanted him with #1 before the Vic Metro game.

I'm only interested in the top 14 or draft picks. As soon as you go past 14-ish, it's a lottery. Not just a lottery in who's available, but a lottery whether or not they'll be a regular first team player.

As for Rookie Me Central, these guys are bona fide clowns. They have Sharp at 14 on the conjecture he is just like Worpel. Worpel got drafted at 45 and is performing commensurately.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

21 disposals and 8 marks today for Duursma.

 

[Cuzz09]

So with Oscars injury we are probably odds on the split pick 1 now.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

So pick2 is gone and we’re finna sign Oscar on a good bloke 5 year contract to remain captain.

 

[WCE777]

I am increasingly thinking we need 3 1st round picks to speed up our rebuild.
We have 3 NGA/FS candidates that will be draftable and we need 2 elite mids ASAP, get the best inside mid, balanced mid and outside ball user.
Then let the chips fall where they may on who they are and what position they position themselves.
Our older players are falling quickly in their form and realistically Cripps, Hunt etc. won't be hear next year.
I think we can see very quickly that B Allan will be at worst a line breaking wing with great speed and kick, at best a Yeo clone in a few years, outside then inside.
Only 1 full game and we already have an equal or better player than projected Duursma, he loves contact also.
Sharp, Rodriguez, and Lindsay as our line breaking, elite kicking HB and outside ball user.
I would rather use future picks to make sure we get into the top end where we need them if OA stays.
The quicker we get them into our side the better for their development and our future.

 

[Donkers]

I only have one thing to say. ****, there goes pick 2 compo.

 

[random260]

I only have one thing to say. ****, there goes pick 2 compo.

Nah it's not a bad injury. Apparently it's an injury for max 8 weeks without surgery.

 

[Tugga27]

Jeez
That 2 year extension for Kelly is looking worse by the day.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Jeez
That 2 year extension for Kelly is looking worse by the day.

The timing made no sense.

Why not wait until the end of the year? Make him put in and earn it.

 

[Tugga27]

The timing made no sense.

Why not wait until the end of the year? Make him put in and earn it.

Was mind boggling.

To give two years to a player who had already been dropped for poor performances was criminal.

I could've lived with a 1 year extension TBH, but two is unforgivable.

Like you said, why not wait to see how he was travelling at the end of the year.

Utter madness.