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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Cameron wants to play for WCE. Pies want a FWD/RUCK and a pick. They are happy with Oscar Steene’s development to be primary ruck next year. Likely to be a matter of what we are prepared to pay.
Ok
I would say that's their problem, if OA goes which is increasing likely we don't have a FWD/RUCK for them.
JW, Waterman, A Reid, Shanahan, BW are required players, they can have Flynn in exchange and Barnett!
Here is a concept, go and draft 1 like the rest of us instead of wanting to buy all the time.
We get Cameron for our 2nd round pick and they can target ROB while their young ruck develops.
 
Ok
I would say that's their problem, if OA goes which is increasing likely we don't have a FWD/RUCK for them.
JW, Waterman, A Reid, Shanahan, BW are required players, they can have Flynn in exchange and Barnett!
Here is a concept, go and draft 1 like the rest of us instead of wanting to buy all the time.
We get Cameron for our 2nd round pick and they can target ROB while their young ruck develops.

I would absolutely trade one of Baz or Jack Wiliams for Cameron, depending on the pick. If it's Hawks 2nd and let them choose between Baz and Jack. The only required players of our KPF's are Waterman, AReid, Shanahan.
 
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I would say that's their problem, if OA goes which is increasing likely we don't have a FWD/RUCK for them.
JW, Waterman, A Reid, Shanahan, BW are required players, they can have Flynn in exchange and Barnett!
Here is a concept, go and draft 1 like the rest of us instead of wanting to buy all the time.
We get Cameron for our 2nd round pick and they can target ROB while their young ruck develops.
I would absolutely trade one of Baz or Jack Wiliams for Cameron, depending on the pick. If it's Hawks 2nd and let them choose between Baz and Jack. The only required players of our KPF's are Waterman, AReid, Shanahan.
Bailey Williams and pick 20 for Darcy Cameron and 36 I’m perfectly fine with.
 

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Bailey Williams and pick 20 for Darcy Cameron and 36 I’m perfectly fine with.
I could stomach that, but it makes us trading up significantly more unlikely which sucks. We should be looking at getting another top end pick not spending top 20 picks on a 30-31 year old ruck who won’t even sniff a finals game with us.
 
Cameron wants to play for WCE. Pies want a FWD/RUCK and a pick. They are happy with Oscar Steene’s development to be primary ruck next year. Likely to be a matter of what we are prepared to pay.
So what you are saying is Harry Barnett has a chance to extend his career with Collingwood?
 
Interesting to see whether the loss of McGovern makes WC think more about keeping Allen. Serious loss of quality senior talent in those 2, & they haven't got that much they can afford to lose.
I wouldn't have thought so. We have been doing fine without Gov. We're better off without him playing.


If not then they need to be creative & splash some cash as you said. Apart from what you mentioned which I like, split #2 and see if they can prise Georgiades out of Port with 1 of those picks.

But don't just concentrate on ex WA boys. See if Steele is willing to head west on good coin Fiorini is another. They are out there

We need to take #1 and #2 to the draft. We have Waterman, Williams, Reid, Shanahan. Taking Geordiades at his peak value after he kicks 7 goals is wild.

Steele is not good enough. We're better off backing Sharp to be the real deal. Guys like Steele and LDU pull up short. As for Fiorini, he's a spud. If Owies and Hunt can't do f-all, he's doing f-all. I'd rather Dev Robbo or Hobbs. Both cost f-all, both a huge risk of not being good enough, but when they cost peanuts, give them a run. If they're shit, discard them.

We need to hit the draft. Get #2 Oscar compo. Have a crack at getting GC's Port pick. Death ride Hawks. 3-4 picks inside 12. Set up the midfield with the likes of Sharp, Fred, Lindsay, Grlj. Then see if Archer can do ruck development. See if Shanahan can play back.

Then see if we can get Warner in 2 years for free. Then have a look at what expats we can pull. They'll be a lot more willing we are weapons start being real.

Our trajectory is on target. We're at the mercy as to how good our draft picks turn out. Harley, Hewett, Ginbey. Good so far.
 
The Hawks pick will be mid to late 20’s in a draft that is no where near as deep as last years. Darcy will really help the development of Elijah and Harley. I’m giving them that and they will trade it for a player. Pick 1, pick 2 (possibly) , Darcy Cameron, 2 Nga’s and a F/s - that’s decent hand.
 
I would absolutely trade one of Baz or Jack Wiliams for Cameron, depending on the pick. If it's Hawks 2nd and let them choose between Baz and Jack. The only required players of our KPF's are Waterman, AReid, Shanahan.
Cant agree with that, trade 1 of Baz or JW for Cameron and our 2nd round pick or Hawks 2nd would be absolutely tops.
KPF's required Waterman, JW, Shanahan, A Reid as a developing ruck imo.
OA leaving leaves Waterman and JW as primary KPF's.
Shanahan developing and A Reid ruck/fwd.
 
Cant agree with that, trade 1 of Baz or JW for Cameron and our 2nd round pick or Hawks 2nd would be absolutely tops.
KPF's required Waterman, JW, Shanahan, A Reid as a developing ruck imo.
OA leaving leaves Waterman and JW as primary KPF's.
Shanahan developing and A Reid ruck/fwd.
I think you've misread my post.
 

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Watching the Gov press conference with ample coverage of the players, it's clear when people say play the youth its actually the playing of kids. Give them some patience
 
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We’re not going to get a good deal in a potential Cameron trade. At absolute best we get a fair deal. Sure it would be nice if he was 24 but don’t underestimate the difference a very good ruck will make for our developing midfield and how highly Collingwood rate him.

Setting up a kick behind play will also be invaluable after losing Gov and TB.
 
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I could stomach that, but it makes us trading up significantly more unlikely which sucks. We should be looking at getting another top end pick not spending top 20 picks on a 30-31 year old ruck who won’t even sniff a finals game with us.
It all plays into the belief WC have their next ruck in A Reid imo.
Get Cameron for 3-4 years, help our midfield actually get the ball, upgrade our rucks, upgrade our stoppage work.
Having to give up BW and our 2nd round pick for their 2nd round pick and Cameron looks a decent play.
OA leaving gives us pick 2, we will finish last and have pick 1 and Hawks 1st somewhere around 12-13 is a decent hand.
If you want to upgrade anything from that there are multiple options.
We realistically can't draft in more than about 6 and make a play for a couple of trades.
3 1st round picks and 3 NGA/FS picks is about the totality of this draft.
 
I wouldn't have thought so. We have been doing fine without Gov. We're better off without him playing.




We need to take #1 and #2 to the draft. We have Waterman, Williams, Reid, Shanahan. Taking Geordiades at his peak value after he kicks 7 goals is wild.

Steele is not good enough. We're better off backing Sharp to be the real deal. Guys like Steele and LDU pull up short. As for Fiorini, he's a spud. If Owies and Hunt can't do f-all, he's doing f-all. I'd rather Dev Robbo or Hobbs. Both cost f-all, both a huge risk of not being good enough, but when they cost peanuts, give them a run. If they're shit, discard them.

We need to hit the draft. Get #2 Oscar compo. Have a crack at getting GC's Port pick. Death ride Hawks. 3-4 picks inside 12. Set up the midfield with the likes of Sharp, Fred, Lindsay, Grlj. Then see if Archer can do ruck development. See if Shanahan can play back.

Then see if we can get Warner in 2 years for free. Then have a look at what expats we can pull. They'll be a lot more willing we are weapons start being real.

Our trajectory is on target. We're at the mercy as to how good our draft picks turn out. Harley, Hewett, Ginbey. Good so far.
Couldn't agree more.
This is the draft/trade strategy that will set us up long term and put in place a premiership capable side.
 
We’re not going to get a good deal in a potential Cameron trade. At absolute best we get a fair deal. Sure it would be nice if he was 24 but don’t underestimate the difference a very good ruck will make for our developing midfield and how highly Collingwood rate him.

Setting up a mic behind ply will also be invaluable after losing Gov and TB.
100% agree with this.
I could live with your trade scenario for Cameron.
Just need to lock away our next KPD player to replace Gov.
 

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When it comes to contract status why can't the AFL do something similar to the NRL.

They have a contract status page


which has a news article at the top, but below that every club and every player is listed.
Not only that, they list gains and losses for this year and next. And the development squad.

So simple.

See the extract below which is just the first few lines of the Brisbane list.

Adam Reynolds20252026
Ben Hunt20252026
Ben Te Kura202520262027
Billy Walters20252026
Blake Mozer202520262027
Brendan Piakura202520262027

2025 gains​

Ben Hunt (Dragons), Hayze Perham (Bulldogs)
 
Can't be trading Bailey out after losing Allen, TB and Gov, especially not at the exact moment he's finally being played in the position he was drafted for an is producing. Trading Bailey and pick 20 for a 31 year old ruckman and the likely premiers second rounder. Jesus, what else can we throw in maybe Harley Reid?

Downgrading pick 20 to 36 for a season or two of service from an ok ruckman I'd baulk at, throwing in a 100 game player who has just turned 25 and is arguably among the top 5 forward/rucks in the comp [seriously, how many of these blokes are there?] yeah no thanks. Bailey Williams hate at its most extreme.
 
It would be the most WC (circa 2020’s) move to trade BBW across to the pies and watch him turn into what Darcy Cameron is now.

Granted BBW’s not a #1 ruck but neither was Cameron at the same age. He was such a late bloomer as rucks so often are.
 
Given where our R2 pick is likely to land I’d trade it for Darcy Cameron too. Most definitely wouldn’t be including Jack Williams in that deal though, and I’d be very reluctant to include Bailey
 
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