List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[bzparkes]

I mean it's literally not.

He's a highly rated first round pick that's been starved of opportunity for a couple years now. He's had a few years of quality VFL from and development and about to come into a thay sweet spot with his age as a KPP. He'd be a target for multiple clubs, not just WA ones due to origin bias.

The one AFL game he played he was solid and didn't deserve to lose his spot. Lots of dogs fans still want him in the side and baffled he isn't playing.

He also happens to be from WA.

So, basically Bazzo 2.0?

 

[Donkers]

This, short memories on his skill set and WC where all over him before he re-signed with WB last year.
They obviously rate him and he is perfect age to bring in a KPD player and develop in our system, already well developed and would only be a mid/late 2nd round pick needed.
No brainer, why draft another KPD player when there is a mostly developed one sitting out there ready to compete with our current stocks.

If we are to trade in a KPD, they either need to be true FB who is faster and more athletic that Edwards. Otherwise we are just drafting depth or not really improving the defence.

Brock's more the CHB / Third tall but has a great long kick on him so replacing him with someone who is arguably the same player but may be defensively worse doesn't make much sense.

 

[bzparkes]

If we are to trade in a KPD, they either need to be true FB who is faster and more athletic that Edwards. Otherwise we are just drafting depth or not really improving the defence.

Brock's more the CHB / Third tall but has a great long kick on him so replacing him with someone who is arguably the same player but may be defensively worse doesn't make much sense.

Brock's also super fast, unlike the Bus.

 

[WCE777]

If we are to trade in a KPD, they either need to be true FB who is faster and more athletic that Edwards. Otherwise we are just drafting depth or not really improving the defence.

Brock's more the CHB / Third tall but has a great long kick on him so replacing him with someone who is arguably the same player but may be defensively worse doesn't make much sense.

agree, Busslinger is quicker than Edwards and more athletic.
I see Busslinger as a FB as he is not as athletic as Brock, Brock is athletically superior to almost all KPD players, bit of a find there.
Everybody sees players differently, that's why we have talent scouts, go and watch his GWS game earlier this year playing on Cadman and Hogan in his 1st game, there is some serious talent wrapped up in him.
Also many would like drafting C Curtin as a KPD, Curtin is a slow KP player similar to Edwards, he has a very high footy IQ and very tall and good skills but at the next level I don't see the appeal.
He is probably a ruck with that size and skill set.

 

[Farang83150]

Do we make a play for Freos Liam Reidy ?
Sitting behind Jackson & Darcy ,could he end being a Lloyd Meek.
Sounds like he wants more opportunities at the top level.
Would be cheaper then Cameron and an upgrade on Flynn

The whole point for Cameron IMO would be giving our mids 1st crack, his intercept marking and kicking goals, is the same going to happen with Reidy?

 

[Donkers]

The whole point for Cameron IMO would be giving our mids 1st crack, his intercept marking and kicking goals, is the same going to happen with Reidy?

No, it's more just about breaking even more often in the position and i'm not sure that Reidy is that far ahead of Flynn.

If you want a ruck who will give first crack to the mids then you go hard at Moyle. Hope the Hawks pick lands at 13 and offer up 13, ours and hawks R2 for Moyle + Collingwoods first.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

No, it's more just about breaking even more often in the position and i'm not sure that Reidy is that far ahead of Flynn.

If you want a ruck who will give first crack to the mids then you go hard at Moyle. Hope the Hawks pick lands at 13 and offer up 13, ours and hawks R2 for Moyle + Collingwoods first.

This

 

[Elite Pete]

Some names listed that would interest a few here
Hustwaite
Tsatas
Busslinger
Blight
Dev
Davies
Derksen
Garcia
Moyle
Tom Mitchell
J Serong
Fiorini
Phillips
Budarick
Pittonet

Imo definitely a few there could be bargain buys and help lift our floor. Some have a chance of raising our ceiling too.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Some names listed that would interest a few here
Hustwaite
Tsatas
Busslinger
Blight
Dev
Davies
Derksen
Garcia
Moyle
Tom Mitchell
J Serong
Fiorini
Phillips
Budarick
Pittonet

Imo definitely a few there could be bargain buys and help lift our floor. Some have a chance of raising our ceiling too.

Was just reading this. Blight and Busslinger would be of particular interest to us, you’d think.

 

[WCE777]

Was just reading this. Blight and Busslinger would be of particular interest to us, you’d think.


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Both would make our KPD better, its a matter of who WC think is the long term play, 1 would be sufficient.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Both would make our KPD better, its a matter of who WC think is the long term play, 1 would be sufficient.

Also Blight would be cheaper, I suspect.

 

[The Gtrain]

Some names listed that would interest a few here
Hustwaite
Tsatas
Busslinger
Blight
Dev
Davies
Derksen
Garcia
Moyle
Tom Mitchell
J Serong
Fiorini
Phillips
Budarick
Pittonet

Imo definitely a few there could be bargain buys and help lift our floor. Some have a chance of raising our ceiling too.

Tom Mitchell probably brings about 40 more possessions per game than TK

 

[WCE777]

Also Blight would be cheaper, I suspect.

Cheapest is not always best.
WC have a situation where they need lots of talent around the midfield and Gov going a more immediate need to cover our KPD short to longer term.
The Barrass trade plus OA compo will facilitate this very quickly, but we can't take all kids and hope for the best.
More than happy to load up on the midfield while we are at the bottom but we need to lock away our KPD long term also and the opportunity is presenting itself with our draft hand.
I feel Blight is a decent payer and if we were looking for depth he would be a cheap easy play.
Busslinger is 3 years younger and has a big upside and is not getting a go at a club stacked with KPD options, while still in contract for another year we have draft pick assets to make a play and the $ are not a concern.
While Ralph wouldn't know if a player was any good or not unless he asked someone, his assessment of his game against GWS is correct.
My preference, but I have made my thoughts known fairly often.

 

[eaglevision]

Some thoughts on draft/player cost assuming we hold picks 1,2,14,20,32,50

Busslinger: Pick 20
Cameron: Pick 20 plus a Williams with pick 36 coming back
Phillips: pick 50 (or F3)
Erasmus: pick 32
Sheldrick: pick 32
Blight: pick 50 otherwise PSD
Dev: pick 50 otherwise DFA

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Cheapest is not always best.
WC have a situation where they need lots of talent around the midfield and Gov going a more immediate need to cover our KPD short to longer term.
The Barrass trade plus OA compo will facilitate this very quickly, but we can't take all kids and hope for the best.
More than happy to load up on the midfield while we are at the bottom but we need to lock away our KPD long term also and the opportunity is presenting itself with our draft hand.
I feel Blight is a decent payer and if we were looking for depth he would be a cheap easy play.
Busslinger is 3 years younger and has a big upside and is not getting a go at a club stacked with KPD options, while still in contract for another year we have draft pick assets to make a play and the $ are not a concern.
While Ralph wouldn't know if a player was any good or not unless he asked someone, his assessment of his game against GWS is correct.
My preference, but I have made my thoughts known fairly often.

If we are looking for a FB to replace Edwards I personally think Blight is the better option, Busslinger I feel just isn’t going to be strong enough in contested one on ones. That’s not his thing. He is and always has been a CHB who intercepts well and has good rebound. Ever since his draft year Busslingers strengths have been his ball use and his skills as an interceptor, which is why I questioned how Beveridge seems to be training busslinger.

If we’re trying to get an upgrade on Harry Edwards becuase we think he isn’t going to be a long term player for us, then I’d go with Blight. He just feels more solid in contested 1v1.

If we’re just interested in getting more talent on the list, you pick Busslinger, but I don’t think you bring him in and continue trying to make him something that he isn’t as is the case at the dogs.

I followed Busslinger very closely from his underage year until when he signed on again around this time last year. I’ve barely seen him play since, including not watching him play against GWS, but I’m very convinced you can’t play a guy to his weaknesses, and that seems to be the case at the dogs, and seems to be what you’re asking of him.

Busslinger= CHB to replace Brock
Blight = FB to replace Edwards

 

[Farang83150]

Some thoughts on draft/player cost assuming we hold picks 1,2,14,20,32,50

Busslinger: Pick 20
Cameron: Pick 20 plus a Williams with pick 36 coming back
Phillips: pick 50 (or F3)
Erasmus: pick 32
Sheldrick: pick 32
Blight: pick 50 otherwise PSD
Dev: pick 50 otherwise DFA

Recon Sheldricks stocks are on the rise

 

[Big_Birdy]

Some thoughts on draft/player cost assuming we hold picks 1,2,14,20,32,50

Busslinger: Pick 20
Cameron: Pick 20 plus a Williams with pick 36 coming back
Phillips: pick 50 (or F3)
Erasmus: pick 32
Sheldrick: pick 32
Blight: pick 50 otherwise PSD
Dev: pick 50 otherwise DFA

Not disagreeing with anything you have written here, but I just don't understand why we would bother with any of these.

As it stands, with picks 1,2,14,20, there is a very good chance we pick up 3 midfielders, two of hopefully very high quality.

That is to go with Reid, Hewett, Gross, Hall and now even possibly Hough.

Would rather take the risk on those picks being diamonds in the rough, than take on those players who we know are limited.

 

[WCE777]

If we are looking for a FB to replace Edwards I personally think Blight is the better option, Busslinger I feel just isn’t going to be strong enough in contested one on ones. That’s not his thing. He is and always has been a CHB who intercepts well and has good rebound. Ever since his draft year Busslingers strengths have been his ball use and his skills as an interceptor, which is why I questioned how Beveridge seems to be training busslinger.

If we’re trying to get an upgrade on Harry Edwards becuase we think he isn’t going to be a long term player for us, then I’d go with Blight. He just feels more solid in contested 1v1.

If we’re just interested in getting more talent on the list, you pick Busslinger, but I don’t think you bring him in and continue trying to make him something that he isn’t as is the case at the dogs.

I followed Busslinger very closely from his underage year until when he signed on again around this time last year. I’ve barely seen him play since, including not watching him play against GWS, but I’m very convinced you can’t play a guy to his weaknesses, and that seems to be the case at the dogs, and seems to be what you’re asking of him.

Busslinger= CHB to replace Brock
Blight = FB to replace Edwards

Fair enough, bit I will agree to disagree on Busslinger.
I believe he has the capabilities to be something like Barrass/McCartin type.
If we can turn Edwards into who he is I am ok with Busslinger longer term upside.
If he turns into a very good CHB, I am good with that.
There is no certainty that Brock becomes the best CHB at WC but he is already heading there.
Busslinger is a bigger version of Bazzo with his skill set at minimum, add 2 years and he is ready to take the bigger players.

 

[dinnaz]

I wouldn't have thought so. We have been doing fine without Gov. We're better off without him playing.

 

[eaglevision]

Not disagreeing with anything you have written here, but I just don't understand why we would bother with any of these.

As it stands, with picks 1,2,14,20, there is a very good chance we pick up 3 midfielders, two of hopefully very high quality.

That is to go with Reid, Hewett, Gross, Hall and now even possibly Hough.

Would rather take the risk on those picks being diamonds in the rough, than take on those players who we know are limited.

It’s hard to argue that we don’t need a strong inside midfielder in the age range of Sheldrick, Phillips and Erasmus and I’d be happy to pull the trigger with the picks I’ve suggested, especially when those picks are likely to be eaten up by a Walley bid anyway.

Same with KPD. HEdwards will always be limited with his speed, I know many here like Brock but he is weak in the contest, just gets thrown around and cant stick tackles consistently. The Blues game is a perfect example of this and I wouldn’t take him off the rookie list and rolling 1 year rookie contracts until we find an AFL standard KPD.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Fair enough, bit I will agree to disagree on Busslinger.
I believe he has the capabilities to be something like Barrass/McCartin type.
If we can turn Edwards into who he is I am ok with Busslinger longer term upside.
If he turns into a very good CHB, I am good with that.
There is no certainty that Brock becomes the best CHB at WC but he is already heading there.
Busslinger is a bigger version of Bazzo with his skill set at minimum, add 2 years and he is ready to take the bigger players.

I do not. I think he is far more a Darcy Moore, Jake Lever type.

I just don’t see what you’re basing your assessment on. He’s never demonstrated an ability to lockdown and be a contested 1v1 beast like a May or McCartin.

Busslinger is the exact player he was projected to be in his draft year.
does. I’m all for going after him, I just think we need to be clear eyed about what we would be gettkng him for, and not tying to shoe horn him in to a role that he isn’t suited -which is exactly what Bevo is doing to zero success.

I’d agree on the Bazzo comparison, but would say Bazzo showed more ability 1v1 than Busslinger.

 

[ArdentEagle]

H.H is the guy we should go after.
Hawks can't fit him into their midfield.

He's gone a level up this year in the VFL and would be my choice over Erasmus as the clearance, big body ball pig

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Some thoughts on draft/player cost assuming we hold picks 1,2,14,20,32,50

Busslinger: Pick 20
Cameron: Pick 20 plus a Williams with pick 36 coming back
Phillips: pick 50 (or F3)
Erasmus: pick 32
Sheldrick: pick 32
Blight: pick 50 otherwise PSD
Dev: pick 50 otherwise DFA

Busslinger - Pick 32
Cameron - Pick 14
Phillips - DFA
Erasmus- Pick 32
Sheldrick - Pick 19
Blight - Rookie list
Dev - Orange peeler from the under 12s reserves team in Boyanup

 

[beagles]

Busslinger - Pick 32
Cameron - Pick 14
Phillips - DFA
Erasmus- Pick 32
Sheldrick - Pick 19
Blight - Rookie list
Dev - Orange peeler from the under 12s reserves team in Boyanup

Yep, let's throw away our draft picks. Are we turning into Gold Coast?

Next we need to trade pick 1 because we might get two picks in the teens.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Some thoughts on draft/player cost assuming we hold picks 1,2,14,20,32,50

Busslinger: Pick 20
Cameron: Pick 20 plus a Williams with pick 36 coming back
Phillips: pick 50 (or F3)
Erasmus: pick 32
Sheldrick: pick 32
Blight: pick 50 otherwise PSD
Dev: pick 50 otherwise DFA

One change; Busslinger: Pick 32