List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[KERRPOW]

Why the **** would ROB want to come to us for is the biggest problem here

Cameron would come to us to come home for example and take more money with us willing to do a trade. As a free agent ROB will have many options better then us like Carlton/Collingwood/Geelong...

Lets just get Cameron ie. a player we can get. If you are upset about giving up pick 19 and 31 just take it as us giving up one senior body (Allen) for another (Cameron) and getting extra draft compensation at the end of it too

Cash is king.

3years at say 800k a season.

 

[Elite Pete]

Whitlock has had some big VFL games from memory and they might not accept pick 5 or 6 for him in this draft like probably wouldn’t for Shanahan.

But agreed it was what they paid for Daniel to then just buy back in and paying what they did. Daniel looked exactly like what they already have in Sheezel, McKersher and co.

CDT mightve got to their pick as well and would be well suited.

Parker has been huge for them. Darling played a role.

 

[Monocle]

I know this is non WCE related and probably controversial but I actually don't mind Norfs trade last year. I think they got the better Whitlock at the time and I rate him at least as high or higher than any of the talls in this draft. Also in an area of need.

Donkers in essence I agree with your assessment, as the way this years draft is stacking up and in view what sort of players their list needs, it's looking like an OK move.

However, I think they have been fortunate as the position they find themselves in is one of good luck, rather than good management, its been a punt that looks like having come off, some times you do need a bit of luck with how drafts unfold.

The only slight difference I have is that I rate Aidan Schubert as a better footballer than Matt Whitlock, but I am being a tad picky and pedantic with this.
I just have some concerns that Whitlock has got one of those bodies, that might just not be durable as he and his brother are so tall and spindly, similar to the King brothers.

North need to seriously accelerate the development of their young tall's:

Matt Whitlock
Will Dawson
Taylor Goad
Finnbar Maley

 

[Wild Kelly]

Cash is king.

3years at say 800k a season.

+ iPhone

 

[Monocle]

Is he related to Scott Cumming?

Speaking of Scott Cummings and players related to him.

His son Harley is one to keep an eye on in the Swan Districts Colts , not available this year as he is only 17, but he has a had a pretty good year for the Black Ducks.

Plays as a key defender and is a good interceptor and plays with so attacking flair, only 192 cm but he does show some "draftable" qualities.

We have no claim to him, as Scotty never played enough games at any of the four AFL Clubs who jumper he wore, to have earned father son eligibility for his kids.

 

[Donkers]

Meaning they would have taken Shanahan or the actual Whitlock they meant to select. Would have come out even better!

Or it ends up meaning Tigers potentially take Whitlock or Shanahan instead of Sims and North the same meaning the WCE miss out on Shanahan.

 

[Donkers]

Donkers in essence I agree with your assessment, as the way this years draft is stacking up and in view what sort of players their list needs, it's looking like an OK move.

However, I think they have been fortunate as the position they find themselves in is one of good luck, rather than good management, its been a punt that looks like having come off, some times you do need a bit of luck with how drafts unfold.

The only slight difference I have is that I rate Aidan Schubert as a better footballer than Matt Whitlock, but I am being a tad picky and pedantic with this.
I just have some concerns that Whitlock has got one of those bodies, that might just not be durable as he and his brother are so tall and spindly, similar to the King brothers.

North need to seriously accelerate the development of their young tall's:

Matt Whitlock
Will Dawson
Taylor Goad
Finnbar Maley

I definitely agree it's luck as opposed to good planning. But a high tier KPP with an extra year of development in comparison to this years draft doesn't make it as bad as it seemed on the night.

Whitlock played against significantly better opposition than Schubert has imo and I really rate Schubert. What's interesting is that I would be looking to draft Schubert as a KPD. He doesn't quite have the same size as Whitlock and I do worry about both the Whitlock's body shapes, however Whitlock had shown more in defence where as with Schubert you're picking on potential. Schubert's body positioning and reading of play definitely has looked the better of the two so far in their senior draft years, however it is a weaker year for talls so it's a tough read and we'll have to wait and see which of the two ends up the better player.

I'm in the Schubert corner however above all what i'm most happy about is that it unfolded the way it did and the WCE ended up with Shanahan. I genuinely believe if the Tigers didn't make the trade they would have drafted Whitlock over Sims and North would have taken Shanahan if the trade for Daniel never happened.

The real winner is the WCE.

 

[Monocle]

I definitely agree it's luck as opposed to good planning. But a high tier KPP with an extra year of development in comparison to this years draft doesn't make it as bad as it seemed on the night.

Whitlock played against significantly better opposition than Schubert has imo and I really rate Schubert. What's interesting is that I would be looking to draft Schubert as a KPD. He doesn't quite have the same size as Whitlock and I do worry about both the Whitlock's body shapes, however Whitlock had shown more in defence where as with Schubert you're picking on potential. Schubert's body positioning and reading of play definitely has looked the better of the two so far in their senior draft years, however it is a weaker year for talls so it's a tough read and we'll have to wait and see which of the two ends up the better player.

I'm in the Schubert corner however above all what i'm most happy about is that it unfolded the way it did and the WCE ended up with Shanahan. I genuinely believe if the Tigers didn't make the trade they would have drafted Whitlock over Sims and North would have taken Shanahan if the trade for Daniel never happened.

The real winner is the WCE.

Likewise I see Schubert as a KPD at the next level.

I think we can all say a collective mighty hallelujah that Shanahan fell to us, on draft night I was getting edgy the first night and was staggered that Richmond took Trainor, Armstrong and Sims and left Jobe on the board.

I knew how keen we were to draft Shanahan and he was perilously close to having been taken by us with our first pick .

We have had a lot of bad luck fall our way the past few years but the Shanahan slide, was a stroke of extremely good fortune.

 

[Cuzz09]

Feel like a Coleman medal should get you father/son rights

 

[WCE777]

Speaking of Scott Cummings and players related to him.

His son Harley is one to keep an eye on in the Swan Districts Colts , not available this year as he is only 17, but he has a had a pretty good year for the Black Ducks.

Plays as a key defender and is a good interceptor and plays with so attacking flair, only 192 cm but he does show some "draftable" qualities.

We have no claim to him, as Scotty never played enough games at any of the four AFL Clubs who jumper he wore, to have earned father son eligibility for his kids.

Thanks for the insight.
I did read somewhere Harley Cummings was progressing well as a KPD and is Scott's son.
He is playing with David Shanahan from SD also who is our NGA product.
How would you describe D Shanahan as a KPD product?

 

[Monocle]

Thanks for the insight.
I did read somewhere Harley Cummings was progressing well as a KPD and is Scott's son.
He is playing with David Shanahan from SD also who is our NGA product.
How would you describe D Shanahan as a KPD product?

I haven't seen enough of him to be honest, but he is one who I intend to focus on as the remainder of the season unfolds.

 

[WCE777]

I haven't seen enough of him to be honest, but he is one who I intend to focus on as the remainder of the season unfolds.

cheers, appreciate your insights

 

[ArdentEagle]

Why the **** would ROB want to come to us for is the biggest problem here

Cameron would come to us to come home for example and take more money with us willing to do a trade. As a free agent ROB will have many options better then us like Carlton/Collingwood/Geelong...

Lets just get Cameron ie. a player we can get. If you are upset about giving up pick 19 and 31 just take it as us giving up one senior body (Allen) for another (Cameron) and getting extra draft compensation at the end of it too

 

[Elite Pete]

3rd rounder? Front end that current contract?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

3rd rounder? Front end that current contract?

No chance a guy with back issues is like "yeah lets get on a plane every 2nd week" . I imagine he stays it out or if he demands to leave he ends up at a club like Hawthorn with part of his salary covered by Essendon

 

[Elite Pete]

No chance a guy with back issues is like "yeah let’s get on a plane every 2nd week" . I imagine he stays it out or if he demands to leave he ends up at a club like Hawthorn with part of his salary covered by Essendon

Yeah, Eagles are a tough sell to get anyone to come here imo.

Not sure where he fits. Hawks and co are likely to have better options.

 

[WCE777]

I haven't seen enough of him to be honest, but he is one who I intend to focus on as the remainder of the season unfolds.

what's your thoughts on G Stumpf as a KPD prospect?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Midfielder from the Geelong Falcons footy factory who’ll probably come extra cheap?

One guess as to who gets that bargain pickup.

 

[Wight Wolf]

Personally i would just take pick 1 and 2. **** splitting. Top end talent has killed us, lack thereof. Start creativity with pick swaps next year

 

[eaglevision]

Personally i would just take pick 1 and 2. **** splitting. Top end talent has killed us, lack thereof. Start creativity with pick swaps next year

I think the best strategy is to firstly decide which two players we want with pick 1 and 2 (should we get it). Then see IF we can slide/swap picks provided we STILL get those same two players. If we can manage that with either or both picks great. If not, then I agree, don’t **** around trying to get cute just take your targets.

 

[jesterwester]

Midfielder from the Geelong Falcons footy factory who’ll probably come extra cheap?

One guess as to who gets that bargain pickup.

Or who provided the “third party” medical advice

 

[Choogler]

Can I check - R2 or pick 36? I have a feeling this year that R1 may go on so long it is pick 36

not a hope... 10,000 points out of the draft points pool including a reduction in the academy/fs discount from 20 to 10% will ensure the GC bounty of a couple of drafts ago never happens again.

To put it in perspective, the match that was done by Brisbane for Ashcroft, last draft, was worth around 1580 points which was achieved with 4 x 3rd round picks after the 20% discount. That same match in 2025 using the same picks would only amount to half the points. The extra points they'd need to find this year are the equivalent of pick 19. Gone are the days clubs can go to the draft with a heap of 3rd and 4th round picks to get elite first round talent.

You'll actually find late second, third and 4th rounders will get used earlier than their natural draft position. That's what I reckon anyway.

 

[Ace McKane]

3rd rounder? Front end that current contract?

I might be wrong but wasn't he out of favour for being a slow ball butcher? Handy player and accumulator though for sure. That injury is gnarly and who knows if he ever returns to his best again, if he loses a step it might be all over.

 

[Elite Pete]

I might be wrong but wasn't he out of favour for being a slow ball butcher? Handy player and accumulator though for sure. That injury is gnarly and who knows if he ever returns to his best again, if he loses a step it might be all over.

You ain’t getting Gaz Ablett Jnr with a 3rd round pick?

Has issues but would strengthen our midfield. As stated before he’s probably not for us with the back issues ect but definitely in the mould of someone we should be looking for.

 

[Monocle]

what's your thoughts on G Stumpf as a KPD prospect?

Very promising player who is unlucky to not be on an AFL list, who in all likelihood will be celebrating Christmas on one.