List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[WCE777]

Petch, along with Cole and Hunt are all free agents, we can’t offer them per se. Best case scenario we get a band 4 offer which would be a pick in the late 30s. More likely would be band 5 which would probably end up early 40s.

Agree on Cameron, someone mentioned Soldo before. I’d happy trade Barnett to Port for Soldo, or a 3 club trade with Cameron to WCE, Barnett to Port and Soldo to the Pies. Sweet could cover Barnett and they will have Marshall back next year. Could work for everyone.

If the offer is BWilliams for Cameron I’d bite their hand off.

agree Petch would most likely be band 5, whatever it is Erasmus would be a similar cost imo and a decent swap.
Cameron for BW would be a lovely get but feel Cameron is worth a mid 2nd round pick and BW is an early 3rd probably?

Barnett will need to find his spot this year as his last year has been underwhelming, pre-season reports have been super positive as a KDEF, cant wait until he is back on the track to show his skills.

 

[Rowan18]

Petch, along with Cole and Hunt are all free agents, we can’t offer them per se. Best case scenario we get a band 4 offer which would be a pick in the late 30s. More likely would be band 5 which would probably end up early 40s.

Agree on Cameron, someone mentioned Soldo before. I’d happily trade Barnett to Port for Soldo, or a 3 club trade with Cameron to WCE, Barnett to Port and Soldo to the Pies. Sweet could cover Barnett and they will have Marshall back next year. Could work for everyone.

If the offer is BWilliams for Cameron I’d bite their hand off.

I'd be pretty reluctant to trade Barnett at this point for spare parts like Soldo. Talls take longer and I think he'll come good after 4 or 5 pre-seasons.

Darcy Cameron for B Williams would be alright, but probably only happens if Cameron is deadset on leaving so B Williams is a consolation prize (plus maybe a third or 4th round pick).

 

[Kegs15]

Agreed, Hough is too good to spend his career playing as a lock down defender. More attacking HBF or even a wing might suit him.

I both agree and disagree with this. Like Yeo (who would have won more AAs as a halfback IMO and would have had 'arguably' a better career, he was too valuable to not put in the midfield) - though as a side note was probably a victim of not rotating across HB more often to spare him his injuries.

I think that call makes sense with Hough but tbh I don't think his best attributes will be drawn out in spots like the wing.

To me he's elite at the 1-1s and versatile where he wins them (contest, ground ball, predictable situation, unpredictable, whatever), making the right decision in literally every situation, cool head, smarts etc whilst being clean but not ridiculous at the offensive side of things. Out on a wing where he'd not be in as many contests and just be making space would be a bigger waste IMO. To bring the best out of him I'd actually suggest we bring back the full-time, hurt both ways tagger. With a weak midfield, having someone to destroy the oppos best player would be worth it more than going head to head offence - and think he'd have the smarts to know when to attack, defend, clamp, adapt (he's such an adaptable player).

Am honestly thinking a better version of Stenglein - he would underratedly bob up for random goals, be a threat when he needed to, not because he had the skillset for that like an attacking HBF would, but because he was so on top of taking out his midfield opponent and making things easier on our midfield, that he got to choose moments when to loosen up and attack - which not many players have the smarts for.

Get Hough in and around the action but not required to be a vital offensive cog - let him play his 'annihilate an opponent' game in the centre then let his still decent offensive capability shine when he decides to - rather than wing/attacking HBF where he's required to focus on offence and loses what's made him awesome in the first place.

 

[eaglevision]

I'd be pretty reluctant to trade Barnett at this point for spare parts like Soldo. Talls take longer and I think he'll come good after 4 or 5 pre-seasons.

Darcy Cameron for B Williams would be alright, but probably only happens if Cameron is deadset on leaving so B Williams is a consolation prize (plus maybe a third or 4th round pick).

I’d be reluctant too, Barnett cops a bit more than he deserves on here. Our midfield is so young and light in depth that I think we’d just need to balance up losing a player like Barnett with growth left vs making sure we give our mids a chance of getting first hands to the footy. Going to be a long couple of years if we can’t get some hit outs to advantage, I’d much rather trade BWill and a 3/4R too. Hopefully Flynn shows he can be that ruck with a good injury free run at it.

 

[eaglevision]

I both agree and disagree with this. Like Yeo (who would have won more AAs as a halfback IMO and would have had 'arguably' a better career, he was too valuable to not put in the midfield) - though as a side note was probably a victim of not rotating across HB more often to spare him his injuries.

I think that call makes sense with Hough but tbh I don't think his best attributes will be drawn out in spots like the wing.

To me he's elite at the 1-1s and versatile where he wins them (contest, ground ball, predictable situation, unpredictable, whatever), making the right decision in literally every situation, cool head, smarts etc whilst being clean but not ridiculous at the offensive side of things. Out on a wing where he'd not be in as many contests and just be making space would be a bigger waste IMO. To bring the best out of him I'd actually suggest we bring back the full-time, hurt both ways tagger. With a weak midfield, having someone to destroy the oppos best player would be worth it more than going head to head offence - and think he'd have the smarts to know when to attack, defend, clamp, adapt (he's such an adaptable player).

Am honestly thinking a better version of Stenglein - he would underratedly bob up for random goals, be a threat when he needed to, not because he had the skillset for that like an attacking HBF would, but because he was so on top of taking out his midfield opponent and making things easier on our midfield, that he got to choose moments when to loosen up and attack - which not many players have the smarts for.

Get Hough in and around the action but not required to be a vital offensive cog - let him play his 'annihilate an opponent' game in the centre then let his still decent offensive capability shine when he decides to - rather than wing/attacking HBF where he's required to focus on offence and loses what's made him awesome in the first place.

Hadn’t considered Hough in that role but if he played it better than Stinger you’d take that every day of the week. Whatever role Hough settles with, Starc would give him a chance to be more than a lock down defender. A couple of reports thst Starc wants to play midfield too, perhaps there’s an interchangeable role there for both of them depending on the opposition with one as the lock down defender and one further up the ground or in a more offensive role.

 

[Choogler]

Also need to look inside the soft cap for a better Ruck coach. Bbw was progressing well in 2023 and has gone backwards in his development when he should be entering his prime and barnett went from being the best 18yr old Ruck in the country to being delisted imminently

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They changed the ruck rules and took BW"s only asset, his leap, away from him. Personally I think Bailey lacks real footy IQ, and that is something you can't teach. If Flynn stays fit then BW is trade bait because I think A Reid and JW are better forwards.

 

[Choogler]

Normally I agree with the patient approach, but with Harley dangling here I think one of the ways to keep him here in at least the mid term is grabbing Warner now.

We need to find out before the next draft whether HR is staying or not. If not, trade him while under contract as I reckon we'll be able to dictate the price more as we could say no if the offers aren't good enough!

 

[Choogler]

I would actually say the opposite, our midfield is weak and Yeo and Kelly have maybe 3 seasons left.
I would go all chips in and get Warner and use all available draft capital to get an elite mid in the likes of Rodriguez/Sharp/Greeves and Curtin as the best KDEF and speed up our rebuild with Warner and in 3 years we have Harley, Warner, Hewett and the new draftee as our midfield.
Our best 2-3 FS/NGA players this year and that is enough.

You've left out a guy who I think is a real sleeper and is going to be an important part of our midfield this season. Hutchinson. He's hard, tough and not afraid to get his hands dirty. Also, with a decent ruckman our mids wouldn't look as bad.

 

[stallon]

Really, how many games did he show that

Did you ever watch him at GWS?

He was fine there

 

[WCE_phil]

Starcevich btw is a ****ing stupid idea. For the salary cap and contract required it's insanity in the clubs area of most depth. The last thing we need is another mid sized lock down defender who isn't overly fast and doesn't have amazing footskills.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

We're Marge and the recruiting team is the Aussie bartender.

I'll have a midfielder
Half bank flanker it is
No, midfielder
halfback flanker
M-I
H-A

 

[eaglevision]

Starcevich btw is a ****ing stupid idea. For the salary cap and contract required it's insanity in the clubs area of most depth. The last thing we need is another mid sized lock down defender who isn't overly fast and doesn't have amazing footskills.

Phil I see your argument but I don’t think we’re as flush as it seems. Allan and Ginbey will start there but at some point will likely move up the ground, Hough and Grego are possibly in the same boat.

With 3+ NGAs/FS plus 5 picks list spots are going to be tight, is Tom Cole guaranteed to be offered a contract? Same with Jayden Hunt who spends time on the HBF. Baker has versatility to play on three lines and Duggan seems to already have shift into the midfield.

Of course he’s not worth band 1 or probably band 2 money (I don’t know the threshold) but I would have thought front loaded band 3 money free of draft capital would be a good investment.

In saying all that I’l would prefer Kane Farrell, him and Kenh (2026) would be good ball movers into the forward half but unlikely he’d consider a move west.

 

[chaddy22]

Petch already being traded, must be close to Round 1 then.

Someone is petchulant.

 

[Obeanie1]

Starcevich btw is a ****ing stupid idea. For the salary cap and contract required it's insanity in the clubs area of most depth. The last thing we need is another mid sized lock down defender who isn't overly fast and doesn't have amazing footskills.

Depends on what happens to Cole and Duggan.

Allen and Ginbey may end up as mid rotations or wing. Same with Hough.

Stacervich also wants midfield minutes and could be a good defensive mid or as others suggested Hough becomes a defensive mid.

Players need to be flexible and provide options for the coach. We had Hart, Pike, Waterman and Banfield all premiership defenders who could pinch hit in the midfield.

And he's only 24 a hard nut and premiership player.

 

[WCE_phil]

Phil I see your argument but I don’t think we’re as flush as it seems. Allan and Ginbey will start there but at some point will likely move up the ground, Hough and Grego are possibly in the same boat.

With 3+ NGAs/FS plus 5 picks list spots are going to be tight, is Tom Cole guaranteed to be offered a contract? Same with Jayden Hunt who spends time on the HBF. Baker has versatility to play on three lines and Duggan seems to already have shift into the midfield.

Of course he’s not worth band 1 or probably band 2 money (I don’t know the threshold) but I would have thought front loaded band 3 money free of draft capital would be a good investment.

In saying all that I’l would prefer Kane Farrell, him and Kenh (2026) would be good ball movers into the forward half but unlikely he’d consider a move west.

Ginbey is a permanent back. Duggan might spend a year or 2 in the midfield before going back. Baker was brought in to provide run and carry from the back. Hough will stay back, maybe a chance of wing in the future but he's almost like for like with shep. Allan will likely start back. Cole is still considered likely best 22 or on the border of that, the club needs to try and find a spot for Maric at some stage. Grego is 50/50 as to whether he's a more defensive mid like Graham or he develops as a small back. Yeo might even have to go back for the last couple of years of his career. Club is also looking at Johnston as a back. Oh and Hunt..... That's 11 ****ing potential rotations for small/mid sized defender.

Just how many small to mid sized defenders do we need?

The club is still short on at least 4 quality mid talents going forward. If we can bring in 1 readymade player and a ruck that means 3 more mids. Hewett is an injury watch now after 3 years of injury.

Gross is a talent, Hutch looks ready made however he can be sloppy by foot (I think it'll improve over time once he's more used to the pace), Hall is a 50/50 as to whether he makes it as an inside mid extractor and needs another 3 years to potentially get there. We have Harley, Hewett, Grego, Allan (outside), Davis (outside and less than 50% chance of making it), Chesser who i've written off and slim chance but he could be good there in Long. The club has less than 50% of the next gen mids it needs on the list.

List makeup (preferred on a 42 player list)
8 KPP (1 or 2 who are ruck/forward)
2 genuine ruckmen
8 small/mid sized defenders (preferably a couple who can play midfield)
8 small/mid sized forwards (preferably a couple who can play midfield)
4 outside mids
2 defensive mids
10 balanced/inside mids

As a general rule you can take 1-2 out of small/mid sized defenders and small/mid forwards and add to mid or KPP stocks if needed, particularly whilst developing but the club just needs more mids and in particular quality mids who are ready to go.

 

[stallon]

Ginbey is a permanent back. Duggan might spend a year or 2 in the midfield before going back. Baker was brought in to provide run and carry from the back. Hough will stay back, maybe a chance of wing in the future but he's almost like for like with shep. Allan will likely start back. Cole is still considered likely best 22 or on the border of that, the club needs to try and find a spot for Maric at some stage. Grego is 50/50 as to whether he's a more defensive mid like Graham or he develops as a small back. Yeo might even have to go back for the last couple of years of his career. Club is also looking at Johnston as a back. Oh and Hunt..... That's 11 ****ing potential rotations for small/mid sized defender.

Just how many small to mid sized defenders do we need?

The club is still short on at least 4 quality mid talents going forward. If we can bring in 1 readymade player and a ruck that means 3 more mids. Hewett is an injury watch now after 3 years of injury.

Gross is a talent, Hutch looks ready made however he can be sloppy by foot (I think it'll improve over time once he's more used to the pace), Hall is a 50/50 as to whether he makes it as an inside mid extractor and needs another 3 years to potentially get there. We have Harley, Hewett, Grego, Allan (outside), Davis (outside and less than 50% chance of making it), Chesser who i've written off and slim chance but he could be good there in Long. The club has less than 50% of the next gen mids it needs on the list.

List makeup (preferred on a 42 player list)
8 KPP (1 or 2 who are ruck/forward)
2 genuine ruckmen
8 small/mid sized defenders (preferably a couple who can play midfield)
8 small/mid sized forwards (preferably a couple who can play midfield)
4 outside mids
2 defensive mids
10 balanced/inside mids

As a general rule you can take 1-2 out of small/mid sized defenders and small/mid forwards and add to mid or KPP stocks if needed, particularly whilst developing but the club just needs more mids and in particular quality mids who are ready to go.

Are there any mids you think we should be chasing this offseason then? Not counting Warner

Any Sheldrick/Johnson/Erasmus types who are fighting for a spot in strong midfields? Dunno if there is any history there.
The FA market seems relatively light on midfielders this year imo

 

[KERRPOW]

Sounds like we are not bear on backs

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Are there any mids you think we should be chasing this offseason then?

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

I really dont like Reidy tbh, imo hes a last resort type of option.
Flynn is way better than him

Just pick up Knobel as a delisted free agent at the end of the year.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Hough is worth his weight in gold as a clamp down defender.
Surely people are sick of the oppositions star small forward cutting us to bits over previous years? Pappely? Cameron? Thanks but no thanks he stays back. Good defences win premierships!
Erasmus? Meh! So glad we didn’t draft him.Depth only!
I hope Barnett comes good.The club must rate him and talk of trading someone of his size,speed and power is crazy at this stage of his career.If he doesn’t make it as a ruckman he just may be our version of Harris Andrews!
Patience mosquito!!

 

[Elite Pete]

Ginbey is a permanent back. Duggan might spend a year or 2 in the midfield before going back. Baker was brought in to provide run and carry from the back. Hough will stay back, maybe a chance of wing in the future but he's almost like for like with shep. Allan will likely start back. Cole is still considered likely best 22 or on the border of that, the club needs to try and find a spot for Maric at some stage. Grego is 50/50 as to whether he's a more defensive mid like Graham or he develops as a small back. Yeo might even have to go back for the last couple of years of his career. Club is also looking at Johnston as a back. Oh and Hunt..... That's 11 ****ing potential rotations for small/mid sized defender.

Just how many small to mid sized defenders do we need?

The club is still short on at least 4 quality mid talents going forward. If we can bring in 1 readymade player and a ruck that means 3 more mids. Hewett is an injury watch now after 3 years of injury.

Gross is a talent, Hutch looks ready made however he can be sloppy by foot (I think it'll improve over time once he's more used to the pace), Hall is a 50/50 as to whether he makes it as an inside mid extractor and needs another 3 years to potentially get there. We have Harley, Hewett, Grego, Allan (outside), Davis (outside and less than 50% chance of making it), Chesser who i've written off and slim chance but he could be good there in Long. The club has less than 50% of the next gen mids it needs on the list.

List makeup (preferred on a 42 player list)
8 KPP (1 or 2 who are ruck/forward)
2 genuine ruckmen
8 small/mid sized defenders (preferably a couple who can play midfield)
8 small/mid sized forwards (preferably a couple who can play midfield)
4 outside mids
2 defensive mids
10 balanced/inside mids

As a general rule you can take 1-2 out of small/mid sized defenders and small/mid forwards and add to mid or KPP stocks if needed, particularly whilst developing but the club just needs more mids and in particular quality mids who are ready to go.

Haha, that’s just moving the numbers where you want them. ‘Likely’ used way too often to just say no to Starcevich. A gun defender. Yes say no if they have decided to go down letting Oscar walk for compo because they have gun mids on the hook.

Yes we need to prioritise mids and a ruck, nearly 99% of the fans and bigfooty can see that. Clearly the list team haven’t.

We are now in a position of our backs are nearly good enough (need a replacement for Gov) and our forwards are good enough.

We need mids and while we can wait through the draft for the high picks to get to the level. We need to find other avenues and there isn’t much there as a free agent. Trade options are there but cost you assets and decent assets if they are any good.

But saying no to Starcevich where our list is at is crazy. Probably explains our current list situation. Yes it will cost decent coin but you front end like the Dons have done with McKay.

 

[Chris_6678]

Hough is worth his weight in gold as a clamp down defender.
Surely people are sick of the oppositions star small forward cutting us to bits over previous years? Pappely? Cameron? Thanks but no thanks he stays back. Good defences win premierships!
Erasmus? Meh! So glad we didn’t draft him.Depth only!
I hope Barnett comes good.The club must rate him and talk of trading someone of his size,speed and power is crazy at this stage of his career.If he doesn’t make it as a ruckman he just may be our version of Harris Andrews!
Patience mosquito!!

Agree on Hough.

Its like the Hurn to midfield when Hurn was elite in his position as a backman.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Agree on Hough.

Its like the Hurn to midfield when Hurn was elite in his position as a backman.

And LeCras when he was an AA and Club Champion forward.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Are there any mids you think we should be chasing this offseason then?

Bad day to be a cage.

 

[bzparkes]

Bad day to be a cage.