List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

Spoiler

• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Spoiler

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Makes our team look weak. No one respects a man who can't handle his shit.

McGovern's comments about his meetings with Ross Lyon were terrible also. At a time when the club was trying to regain some lost pride after the Allen/Mitchell fiasco and not look like a weakling and a basket case that **** McGovern goes and does a podcast where he says that. Obviously trying to stick up for Oscar Allen. But all it did was make the club look weak and pathetic and like it's players are out of control and having meetings with rival coaches on a regular basis. Shows why he is not Captain. The club should have read him the riot act for making deliberate comments in the media that undercut the club and made it look bad.

I think the club should ban players from talking to the media at the moment. All of them probably have similarly negative and deflating thoughts in their heads as Yeo and if they talk to the media long enough that will eventually be verbalised and come out. Since they are not PR professionals who can keep their messaging tight. And we don't really need more negative headlines at the moment. So circle the wagons and make sure there is no loose talk.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

McGovern's comments about his meetings with Ross Lyon were terrible also. At a time when the club was trying to regain some lost pride after the Allen/Mitchell fiasco and not look like a weakling and a basket case that **** McGovern goes and does a podcast where he says that. Obviously trying to stick up for Oscar Allen. But all it did was make the club look weak and pathetic and like it's players are out of control and having meetings with rival coaches on a regular basis. Shows why he is not Captain. The club should have read him the riot act for making deliberate comments in the media that undercut the club and made it look bad.

That shit must have been going on during Simmo's final years. Players running the show. I doubt Mini will put up with that BS.

 

[Elite Pete]

That shit must have been going on during Simmo's final years. Players running the show. I doubt Mini will put up with that BS.

Mini will need a lot of support and backing to do anything from here. His first thoughts will be to get the team back on track which is huge task from here and then it will be job survival sadly.

A lot of ex players have said you never vocalise the rebuild in the media constantly as players start thinking they don’t have to preform as much as the expectations are low.

The current talk coming from current players in the media is very concerning. I understand they are trying to be honest and level headed but this is trending in the wrong direction……

What next? Our own NGAs or Father sons saying no to the Eagles and go into the open draft

 

[ziad]

Mini will need a lot of support and backing to do anything from here. His first thoughts will be to get the team back on track which is huge task from here and then it will be job survival sadly.

A lot of ex players have said you never vocalise the rebuild in the media constantly as players start thinking they don’t have to preform as much as the expectations are low.

The current talk coming from current players in the media is very concerning. I understand they are trying to be honest and level headed but this is trending in the wrong direction……

I think there are honest dick heads and not that sharp.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

That shit must have been going on during Simmo's final years. Players running the show. I doubt Mini will put up with that BS.

I can't remember any other player in the AFL while still playing openly publicly volunteering the information (not just admitting it in a moment of madness but going on a podcast with the intention of revealing this) that they were meeting with opposition coaches. I am sure those type of meetings have hapenned many, many times but nobody has ever admitted it. Until McGovern. Because at every other club you would be ostracised by the other players and internally criticised for publicly admitting it. But the culture at our club is so rotten and broken that McGovern thinks it is totally OK to say this on a podcast and clearly is not expecting any pushback at all from his team mates or club administration.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I can't find the graphic but I think it was AFL.com.au had him rated 5th toward the end of the season. Guess he faded away at the end.

Well when you find the graphic we can discuss

 

[Tugga27]

That shit must have been going on during Simmo's final years. Players running the show. I doubt Mini will put up with that BS.

As much as people want to blame Simmo for everything, Gov met Lyon in 2018.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

As much as people want to blame Simmo for everything, Nisbett gets the freest of free rides.

After all it was him making absurd contract offers to the likes of Barrass which we didnt meet because they were competely insane....I can only imagine what he told others also....

Not sure why that guy is such a protected species. He has more of the blame then Simmo for me

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

As much as people want to blame Simmo for everything, Gov met Lyon in 2018.

Yeah. Your right, mate. This hole that we are in, which is a bigger hole than any club has ever been in in modern times, hapenned purely by chance. No poor management or bad choices involved. No poor performance from the people in charge at the club during the period leading up to this. No blame to be apportioned. No accountability. No lessons to be learned. It is like we just woke up one day and we were in this hole and nothing anybody in charge at the club did or didn't do at the club in the period preceding this had any causal relationship with us being in this hole at all.

 

[Tugga27]

Yeah. Your right, mate. This hole that we are in, which is a bigger hole than any club has ever been in in modern times, hapenned purely by chance. No poor management or bad choices involved. No poor performance from the people in charge at the club during the period leading up to this. No blame to be apportioned. No accountability. No lessons to be learned. It is like we just woke up one day and we were in this hole and nothing anybody in charge at the club did or didn't do at the club in the period preceding this had any causal relationship with us being in this hole at all.

Comprehension not your strong point I take it.

I didn't say Simmo wasn't to blame for anything.
Was quoting the poster who said McGovern spoke to Ross Lyon in Simmo's final years which is just not true.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Yeah. Your right, mate. This hole that we are in, which is a bigger hole than any club has ever been in in modern times, hapenned purely by chance. No poor management or bad choices involved. No poor performance from the people in charge at the club during the period leading up to this. No blame to be apportioned. No accountability. No lessons to be learned. It is like we just woke up one day and we were in this hole and nothing anybody in charge at the club did or didn't do at the club in the period preceding this had any causal relationship with us being in this hole at all.

Clarke - "We'll trade our best asset for a half back flanker, we will give massive salary to a small forward his own club dont want and we will put all our free agent money towards a injury prone half forward. That oughta set things right boys"

And then 5 weeks later

Clarke - Where did I go wrong? I made all the right moves, didn't I?
Tugga27 - Yes sir, Absolutely
Clarke - Oh, I see it now; you're nothing but a bunch of yes-men. I was making all the wrong moves, and you were too gutless to tell me!
Tugga27 - Yes, sir. Absolutely. Every move the wrong one.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

As much as people want to blame Simmo for everything, Gov met Lyon in 2018.

My dog went missing around that time. Never came back. I always thought it was Simmo.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

My dog went missing around that time. Never came back. I always thought it was Simmo.

Someone shat in my pants around that time, I'm convinced it was Simmo

 

[Elite Pete]

Sam Berry from the Crows is another one id be looking at. Still contracted until 2026 but if he doesn’t get a chance this year he could look to leave. A watch if he comes in for Peatling this week.

Gippy boy so would know a few of the players already and I think good friends with Chess (if he is still on the list in 2026)

Tackles hard and can win a contested ball. Did it while the Crows were shit too so doesn’t have to be in a decent team for it to happen.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

My dog went missing around that time. Never came back. I always thought it was Simmo.

He traded it for Zac Langdon

 

[dinnaz]

Guess according to you Rhys Stanley > Nic Nat. Rhys Stanley been a solid contributor and a premiership hero.

Eww gross. Geelong probs got more use out of him than we did NN tho

 

[Choogler]

Quick links

• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)
• Provisional 2025 Draft order

Players out of Contract 2025 (16)

Spoiler

• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025

Absolutely zero chance of this occurring. More likely the AFL concoct band 2 compo for Allen and provide zero priority assistance because we won a flag 7 years ago.

Begs the question if we're not prepared to offer a contract that would trigger band 1 compensation do we actually deserve band 1 compensation? It's one of the many aspects of the supposed "restricted" free agency system the AFL has not considered.

is money the issue with Oscar or is it contract length? Also, what we are prepared to offer is pretty much irrelevant, it's what the destination club is prepared to offer which is normally slight overs to stop offers being matched because the destination clubs want something for nothing and by triggering a higher AFL gifted compo pick, often more than anyone would give up for the player or "overs", they get their man, the club gets a pick they are more than happy with. Ben McKay was the perfect example ... no one would have given up Pick 3 for him. The lower the departure club is, the less likely they are to match. It's only elite talent like Jeremy Cameron and Dangerfield that get forced to the trade table because a single first rounder is not adequate.

 

[Choogler]

25, 33, 34, 40 & 34 ruck contest wins this season......

He's saved his life.

His career average for hitouts won percentage is rated average, and is around the same as Cameron, Xerri and, surprisingly, Matt Flynn's and 30% higher than Bailey Williams It's around the ground that English excels regularly picking up midfielder stats.
Sidenote: with the debate over our ruck stocks and how poor they are, in researching English's numbers I compared him to Matt Flynn who many say is a spud. I'd urge those that say that to use the AFL stats "Compare Players" function and compare Flynns career averages to those of Cameron, Xerri, and other ruckmen... the results are mind blowing.

 

[Bacchus]

Reckon you will see a different Harley this week against the bumbers they are chasing him and he knows it..I expect he will produce a better performance this week

I still have faith he will come good for us just going to take some time as I said before due to his interrupted preseason

Contract wise I do think he will leave us at some stage...but I think he will sign on with us until he gets to Free Agency in a couple of years

5 years

 

[Spoon_Man]

Good luck selling the club to any decent player with these headlines from our players. Not sure if it’s taken out of context or not.

On top of the Waterman and Jack Graham training comments……

Sidelined West Coast veteran Elliot Yeo says the Eagles need to “get urgent” in addressing their woes following a young star’s heartbreaking admission.

After a 71-point loss to Carlton at the weekend, young defender Brady Hough broke down in tears when speaking to The West Australian, as he tried to describe the pain of repeated beltings.

Yeo, who is still several weeks away from returning from injury (several, hey?), admitted it will keep getting harder to motivate players as the thrashings mount.

“It sucks, it sucks, no one goes out their deliberately playing bad, and there’s no doubt we’re hurting,” he said on 96FM.

“We do talk about (coming through the fire), but it’s hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

“How do you keep them motivated? That’s the hardest part when you’re losing.

“At the end of the day, we have the best job in the world, we still come in loving what we do and the football club, and we want to make fans proud and happy.”

For Yeo, the solution lies at the source after the Eagles recorded the lowest number of contested possessions since records began in Saturday’s Gather Round defeat.

“We don’t want to be defending and trying to start our ball movement from the back half,” he said.

“You just have no opportunity to implement what you want to do when you don’t have the ball.”

With Yeo stalled in his recovery from knee and ankle injuries, the 31-year-old remains desperate to get back on the field.

“It’s about how quickly can I get back to help the younger kids because it’s frustrating to watch,” he said.

“We know we’re better than that; it’s just not clicking at the moment, but we need to get urgent with that, losing by considerable amounts and it being an open slather for critics.

“It’s hard because you feel like you’re disconnected from the main group, and you are because you’re on different programs.”

Andrew McQualter took a gamble in dropping veterans Tim Kelly and Tom Cole ahead of their Carlton clash and while Yeo said he hopes to see them back soon, they can’t be relying on ageing stars.

“We do need to get some experience into younger players and that’s my thought process around what’s happening,” he said.

“You don’t want to rely on one or two players. We need to get there collectively.”

 

[Choogler]

So he had a good game? Great.

Bailey Williams was rated 5th best ruck in the league a couple of seasons ago.

Try watching English play instead of quoting stats. Soft as butter and loses CBDs consistently. He's just lucky he has Liberatore and Richards to help out.

In 2023, BW was rated 5th for number of hitouts won but, and I think more relevant, 11th for average HO per game behind Flynn in 8th position. You also forgot to mention BW was rated 25th in 2024 for average HO won. Flynn was 22nd and English 15th. In an 18 team competition that means Bailey rated worse than 8 2nd/3rd stringers

 

[UseR2006]

So, aside from all the doom, gloom and whinging I wanted to take a little bit of a look at what our youth will look like come seasons end, Now i've not included some kids like Grego because they haven't debuted yet (hopefully this week) and others like Barnett because, Barnett and not really worth adding.
Most people would agree that kids really start being a bit more reliable and showing what they can do once they have around 50-70 games under the belt.

Currently the kids we have that either have played or currently are playing are below with the current game totals and then a rough projection of where they might sit games total wise at the end of the season. There are 18 games remaining for us with a bye still to come.

Players Current Games Possible total End of 25​

• Ginbey 45 63
• Hewett 17 45
• H.Reid 25 42
• Long 30 46
• Hough 58 76
• Chess 32 36
• A.Reid 05 16
• Maric 34 52
• Whopper 06 09
• Gross 02 18
• Hall 06 22
• Bazzo 21 23
• Jilliams 32 42
• Rawlinson 01 03
• Hedwards 43 58
• Dewar 12 40
• Hutch 09 19

Assuming a good chunk of the kids play most of the games this year a decent number will either hit the 50 or get close so they hit 50 in the early parts of next season so provided we can keep a good chunk of the kids together we hopefully will start to see things turn sooner than later.

The scary part though is that our mids will be delayed.

Gross, Grego, Hall, won't be hitting their 50 or more until late next year, early the year after assuming we don't play any finals and no one is injured or misses games which would delay all of this.

 

[Choogler]

Wha people miss is English is not going to put up those stats in our team.

Dogs mids throw the ball around a lot and they are a high possession team.

We are a low possession team who can barely get hands on the ball.

KPI for rucks should be oppo hitouts to advantage, oppo first possession, oppo centre clearances.

Good rucks neutralise their opposition first and foremost.

I don’t think English would rank high on those metrics.

Even in Baileys best games it’s usually case that this direct opponent has had a career best game themselves. That’s is not a goood ruckman

We all look at guys like Cameron, Xerri, Marshall and others as being among the comps best ruckmen and it is currently true but what most don't realise is they have taken years to reach this point. Marshall and Cameron are 29, Xerri is 27. We have a guy on our list who has career stoppage/ruck stats that are at least the equal, and in many cases better than those guys... and it's not Bailey Williams, it is Matt Flynn. Can't believe he has been written off after one performance. As dismal as it was for hitouts, he had most contested marks on the ground, second most CP behind Baker, equal most clearances, 5th most tackles and more possessions than half the team. Just needs a run at it to see if he's good enough, I already know he's better than BW.

 

[bzparkes]

We all look at guys like Cameron, Xerri, Marshall and others as being among the comps best ruckmen and it is currently true but what most don't realise is they have taken years to reach this point. Marshall and Cameron are 29, Xerri is 27. We have a guy on our list who has career stoppage/ruck stats that are at least the equal, and in many cases better than those guys... and it's not Bailey Williams, it is Matt Flynn. Can't believe he has been written off after one performance. As dismal as it was for hitouts, he had most contested marks on the ground, second most CP behind Baker, equal most clearances, 5th most tackles and more possessions than half the team. Just needs a run at it to see if he's good enough, I already know he's better than BW.

Yep. Everyone, including Norf fans, were saying Xerri was pure shit until last year.

 

[Cuzz09]

Sam Berry from the Crows is another one id be looking at. Still contracted until 2026 but if he doesn’t get a chance this year he could look to leave. A watch if he comes in for Peatling this week.

Gippy boy so would know a few of the players already and I think good friends with Chess (if he is still on the list in 2026)

Tackles hard and can win a contested ball. Did it while the Crows were shit too so doesn’t have to be in a decent team for it to happen.

Don't mind him.