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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Which one of your alt accounts was that under?

Only mention I could find
 

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Hall: Pick 38
Gross Pick 46
Grego Pick 48
McCarthy: MSD possiblity

vs two potential top 5 picks? In before "but James Hird was taken at Pick 46372636 and Cale Moton was a bust", I just wanna play the odds and if Gross and Grego and friends can be better than average at AFL level, we'll be laughing in an area of the ground where all games are won and lost :)

Not totally against your idea of trading any potential Allen pick for two good picks so long as we take a gun mid with Pick 1.

Yeah but I'm not so sure there's even a clear best #2 player around. I know it's very early days but the top of this draft seems pretty meh, as well as even.

Even Sharp with pick #1 has it's doubts.

You're certainly not guaranteed anything. For once I'd actually rather we hedged our bets with that potential pick split and got a couple different needs 🤷🏼

If the club is serious about this whole Phillips thing, there's another mid. Could also pickup that dumb flog Dev gor free to add to the depth as well.

Just don't want us stacked with midfielders we can't fit in, when there's going to be a clear whole in KPD stocks.
 
If you want to make bold predictions about who we should be taking now, go ahead.

If you want to pretend to be a hindsight hero and say that you would have taken a player a decade ago that no club drafted, you can expect some carry on.

The entire function of this thread is the hindsight hero…
 
The entire function of this thread is the hindsight hero…

I don’t see how that’s anywhere close to true.

I thought the function of the thread was to discuss what we should do with contracts and drafting, not what we should have done in the 2015 rookie draft.
 
Is our mid depth even that bad now though? It just needs time. Adding the best mid from the draft (Sharp) I get, but adding 2 of them?? Nah.

Granted we haven't seen a lot of Gross and Grego because McQualter is a flog and hasn't given them games, but it looks promising. I don't recall us having such good mid depth at the Beagles before this season. Gross/Grego/Hall + McCarthy (If we draft him next week) is loads.

At AFL level Harley, Hewitt, Graham and now Hough are all here to stay for the forseeable. We also have 2 more years of Yeo, if the bloke ever gets fit.

If we add the "best 2 mids" from this draft that seems like too many floating around for mine. Unless the 2nd mid is a damaging outside midfielder/wingman, which I don't really think exists in that range.

If a (likely 30-31 by the time we're contending) Graham is in our starting midfield by the time we're contending we're in trouble.

Mids are the spot where (and we haven't done this) I'm happy to have a little bit of an overload, let someone like Grego be a bonus but not a vital cog in our planning.

If Harley, Hewitt and Hough all come on exactly as we hope they will (and stay) that's 3 top-liners, the first two of which should hopefully have a good enough midfield behind them that they can spend a lot of time forward to preserve them and be dangerous Dusty-style.

The Grand Finallists last year had:

Neale, Dunkley, McSuitcase, Ashcroft (top-liners, added Levi afterwards)
Heeney, Warner, Gulden, Rowbottom (top-liners, I rate Rowbottom, and missing Mills.)

We add the top 2 mids and that's 5 options for us including the 3 mentioned, allowing for 1 to either be injured/not come on as hoped. Tbh I'd almost want one more for safety (hopefully that's Warner as a FA after we've seen how the others develop).

Then that lets Gross, Hall, Grego, Hutchinson be our Rayner, Fletcher, Z.Bailey, Berry/our Florent, Roberts, Parker, J.McInerney where they can rotate through, play fwd/back/wing, support, add depth, have their big days when the stars are down but not be relied on for our topline setup.
 
The entire function of this thread is the hindsight hero…
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That's just what you do.. all the time.
 
It was Polec over Judd. Most people here did. People were melting. I was probably the only one to say, "we got the right guy. Build the midfield, the rest will come".
Polak. Polec was the saviour of North and tried to kill Luke Shuey in a final. Didn’t end well for them.
 

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As much as McCarthy or Sellwood seem like great options, thinking about it more I dont really want them that much.

Last year we drafted/recruited a heap of mids/hff/hb players - of 10 players added only 2 were KPP. The year before was similar.
This year we have at least 3 NGA or f/s players coming, all who are mids or flankers of some sort
We also have at least 2 first round picks that we likely will want to use on at least 2 midfielders. Not many KPDs going around in the first round at this stage, cant guarantee Curtin would fall to us if that was our plan either.
Our 2nd/3rd round picks will get used up matching bids, so cant draft a KPP there.
Next year we have a bunch of NGAs too, maybe only 1 of them was a KPP(Shanahan was it?)

We will more than likely lose Jamo, Livingstone is 50/50 at best, Allen we expect leaves, Barnett is no good, and Gov is a good chance to be done. We could lose JWil/BWil or something if Allen stays too if they want opportunity.

Thats potentially 4-5 talls out with maybe 1 (2 if we trade for Cameron) coming in.
I dont expect we are that much of a chance for Z.Reid/Busslinger

Come next year, we may prefer to play one of our young mids with good disposal off half back in a rebounding role that Sellwood/Mccarthy would play.
We already cant fit in Allan or Grego, even Gross is fringe. They all deserve to get a few games. Yeo is to come back still too at some point(maybe)

Perhaps itd be better to look to the future, and take a guy like Dennis, knowing that opportunities to add KPP at the end of this year will be limited.
Its crazy how young Dennis still is, and he clearly has some quality as he was the U18 AA CHB
Everyone sees our needs differently. Imo you could throw a blanket over our top 4 priorities.
-Pure mids Clearance and Accumulator/Link
-Ruck
-KPD
-Modern half back flank. Speed and can hit targets

The 2 mids are likely to come via the early draft selections.

Ruck? There doesn’t seem to be a player better then Fiynn in the pool that we have to jump at now.

KPD- those 2 over looked in the draft but have they put their hand up as select me this year.can you get them in the draft at the end of the year?

HBF- If they think McCarthy can play that role, why not? It’s a huge need for us right now. Ginbey, Allan, Baker, Cole, Duggan ain’t those players due to their average kicking. I think Grego 100% can, looks composed and good decision making. Another one ain’t bad to have.

Plus a lot of the msd pick could come down to who they think they will bring in via trade
 
Does anyone else find it strange that Sheed hasn’t already retired? How old is he? 28? You’d think that if retirement or delisting was on the cards that he’d just bite the bullet and do it…

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dom go on… maybe he and the club thinks that he has more to give.

There’s a redemption story here somewhere. It’s his style. I wouldn’t be writing him off completely.

Sheed did an interview on SEN with Simmo and Goss on Monday

He said the priority was to get through rehab and then look at what happens at the end of the season.

Was a really good chat - well worth a listen


This is a really good interview with Dom Sheed on SEN with Simmo and Goss

Covers a lot of ground - Sheed talks a lot about the impact McQualter has had on the club as well as the new recruits. Also goes into some detail on what the club did to address the Selwood tragedy

Highlight is them talking about Darcy and Jackson but deviating into Scott Lycett asking why he wasn’t getting a game ahead of Cox and Naitanui
 
The problem is chicken counters. "Well, we have Hutch, Gross, Grego, Hoff etc, who are all going to make it. We have too many".

We don't want a player in the midfield who can make Richmond's midfield, but not Brisbane's.

You know the ol' West Coast, "Let's draft a HBF and hope he can play midfield" trick? Well, HBF's in u18s champs are usually midfielders not good enough to make the engine room. So it's essentially, "let's draft a 2nd tier midfielder and hope he becomes a 1st tier midfielder in an open all-ages competition".

"Lets draft top tier u18 midfielders, and the ones that don't make it in the midfield can play on the flanks" is the new black. Don't worry, this is nothing new. It has been in fashion before. We're just dorky.

As it stands, Harley has the goods. Most of us think Hewey has the goods to be an A-grader. But the other guys? An A+, an A, and then 4 B's probably doesn't win a flag. It might. But it probably doesn't. So draft the best 2 available mids. If both become A or A+, then happy days. If one of those other guys steps up and one of those new draft selections end up on a flank, that's not a bad thing.

We can't be doing this, "well we have 6 midfielders so we're good" chicken counting business.
totally this
 
Is our mid depth even that bad now though? It just needs time. Adding the best mid from the draft (Sharp) I get, but adding 2 of them?? Nah.

Granted we haven't seen a lot of Gross and Grego because McQualter is a flog and hasn't given them games, but it looks promising. I don't recall us having such good mid depth at the Beagles before this season. Gross/Grego/Hall + McCarthy (If we draft him next week) is loads.

At AFL level Harley, Hewitt, Graham and now Hough are all here to stay for the forseeable. We also have 2 more years of Yeo, if the bloke ever gets fit.

If we add the "best 2 mids" from this draft that seems like too many floating around for mine. Unless the 2nd mid is a damaging outside midfielder/wingman, which I don't really think exists in that range.
Is our mid that bad bahahhahaha. Lol

Fred rodirguez is an elite kick. He will start of hbf easily. The second mid will have bows. Most mids have flexibility.
 

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Also, I think there needs to be evidence that they will actually miss the season.

Giving Yeo a timeframe that has him coming back shortly after the bye has probably nixed that. Unless he has another setback, I guess.
Our doctors weren’t even able to conclude that Natanui was likely to miss the season, don’t like the chances of them determining Yeo’s likely to miss.
 
Clancy Dennis is not coming to the Eagles. Not this year, at very least. Honestly sick of reading the blokes name on this board, i'm sure he's talented but the fact remains that he wasn't drafted and isn't training on with us.

File him in the same region of your brain that Deven Robertson lives in. Some of you fellas clutch onto unproven talent like a catholic clutches rosary beads on their death bed.

All this talk of bold predictions and here I am quietly hoping this one doesn't come back to haunt me...

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