List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[bzparkes]

Do people realise we actually won the clearances?

Nope.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Do people realise we actually won the clearances?

Not to say you're wrong, but the broader point does stand. On the year we're are twice as bad as the next worst team in terms of clearance differential.


And much worse than last year. Can probably put that down to no Yeo all year and Tim Kelly giving up.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Not to say you're wrong, but the broader point does stand. On the year we're are twice as bad as the next worst team in terms of clearance differential.

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And much worse than last year. Can probably put that down to no Yeo all year and Tim Kelly giving up.
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The clearance specialists, it’s starts with the ruck.

 

[DeckedOut20]

With the bye week upon us, I've slapped together some numbers on 2024 v H1 2025.

Quick summary, we have:

• 15 players that have declined in their average rating.
• 11 players that improved their rating.
• 2024 had 6 players average 10 or more.
• H125 currently has 4 (McCarthy, Baker, Graham & Gov) players averaging 10 or more.
• Hall (151%), Maric (47%) & Brockman (37%) the top 3 biggest improvers on a % basis.
• Kelly (-47%), Owies (-43%) & Waterman (-40%) the worst 3 on a % basis.

In the offseason, I did a post (Here) regarding Baker & Graham joining us and what they bring. Very glad they have held up their end of the trade, they have been our best players this season and are no doubt contributing significantly behind the scenes too.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Not to say you're wrong, but the broader point does stand. On the year we're are twice as bad as the next worst team in terms of clearance differential.

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And much worse than last year. Can probably put that down to no Yeo all year and Tim Kelly giving up.
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Hit outs, the worst in the comp.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

There is no doubt that Flynn is not good enough to be a long term option for us. But i do remember seeing them flash up the hit outs vrs hit outs to advantage stat during the game and whilst we were getting belted in hit outs there were not that many hit outs to advantage against us relatively speaking. I think maybe we go overboard blaming Flynn when we get beaten in CBD's and clearances when maybe some more of the blame needs to go on our midfielders for not competing hard enough for the ball. It is not all Flynn's fault.

It definitely wasn’t Flynn’s worst game in that regard. De Koning had 7 hitouts to advantage, Flynn 3, Williams and O’Keefe 2 each.

He’s had games where the opposition ruck has basically done what they like. Witts in round 1 and Reilly O’Brien a few weeks ago are the ones that stick out in my mind.

It’s tricky. You’re right, the midfield/clearance woes aren’t all his fault. An upgrade in the ruck would be nice, but it’s difficult to find one that isn’t going to cost an arm and a leg.

 

[DeckedOut20]

And a few names of interest around here, for various reasons.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The clearance specialists, it’s starts with the ruck.

Hit outs, the worst in the comp.

I was simply responding on clearances. You're welcome to post your own stats if you want on hitouts.

I have thoughts on the ruck position. We need someone who can at least provide a contest in the ruck contest. We don't have that at the moment. I'm not sure there is an obvious fix. Cameron isn't the answer, but it's such a crapshoot to find one that we might be better just waiting and saving up capital to use when ready and one becomes available.

 

[WCErevival]

Not to say you're wrong, but the broader point does stand. On the year we're are twice as bad as the next worst team in terms of clearance differential.

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And much worse than last year. Can probably put that down to no Yeo all year and Tim Kelly giving up.
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We've had some big clearances losses. One of those was against North surprisingly. It wasn't just Carlton we won but we actually beat Geelong in clearances recently and also Richmond so we have it in us but need to get more consistent.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

We've had some big clearances losses. One of those was against North surprisingly. It wasn't just Carlton we won but we actually beat Geelong in clearances recently and also Richmond so we have it in us but need to get more consistent.

Inconsistency is part of the deal of having kids as your best clearance mids.

On the season we've won the clearance battle three times (Blues this week, Geelong round 12, Tigers round 9)

Lost the clearance battle by less than 10 three times (Saints round 10, hawks round 7, GWS round 4).

The other 8 games we got beaten by 10 plus, some over 20....

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I was simply responding on clearances. You're welcome to post your own stats if you want on hitouts.

I have thoughts on the ruck position. We need someone who can at least provide a contest in the ruck contest. We don't have that at the moment. I'm not sure there is an obvious fix. Cameron isn't the answer, but it's such a crapshoot to find one that we might be better just waiting and saving up capital to use when ready and one becomes available.

The hit outs were also listed on the spreadsheet you posted.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I was simply responding on clearances. You're welcome to post your own stats if you want on hitouts.

I have thoughts on the ruck position. We need someone who can at least provide a contest in the ruck contest. We don't have that at the moment. I'm not sure there is an obvious fix. Cameron isn't the answer, but it's such a crapshoot to find one that we might be better just waiting and saving up capital to use when ready and one becomes available.

Cameron is the answer

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Cameron is the answer

Sorry, meant to say, Cameron isn't the answer at the cost he'll likely take to get.

If we can get him at a reasonable price, then I'm ok with it.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

End of 1st round pick compliments of the AFL cos we are crap = Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

30

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

End of 1st round pick compliments of the AFL cos we are crap = Darcy Cameron.

If the AFL actually gave us that, I’d be ok with that deal.

Highly doubt it happens though.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

End of 1st round pick compliments of the AFL cos we are crap = Darcy Cameron.

Agreed, have said before if we get the North, end of first round must be traded for a player, then it's a no brainer if Pies actually accept.

 

[Elite Pete]

So where would Marshall be picked if he was in this years draft?

If WC got #2 for Allen, would you consider splitting that for say #6 & #14 & offering #14 to StK.

Maybe but highly doubt he would look to come to the Eagles. Would likely want to chase success at a Vic club.

He could be the ruck to the Pies to release Cameron.

Hard to judge where the rucks will land

 

[Happy Mastenator]

IN good news, we are trending in the right direction, as much as it doesn't feel like it.

Wonder how we'd all be feeling if had won the Bombers, Tigers and North games we lost by 2, 2, and 10 respectively. Would currently have pick 3 rather than pick 1, but might feel better about life, and not change much given Tigers would probably take CDT and Duursma.

 

[Elite Pete]

And a few names of interest around here, for various reasons.

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Sheldricks ratings are sub considering they are so sub effected, or do they take that into account?

 

[pantskyle]

If the AFL actually gave us that, I’d be ok with that deal.

Highly doubt it happens though.

It will be along those lines, maybe even better.

 

[FKASC]

Do people realise we actually won the clearances?

Some clearances are just hack kicks straight to the opposition defenders though. It’s not a super meaningful stat in isolation.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It will be along those lines, maybe even better.

Prove me wrong, AFL. Prove me wrong!

 

[Wight Wolf]

If Cameron wants to leave Collingwood to West Coast, then they will take what they are offered or no deal.

Just like every other club that bends us over.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If Cameron wants to leave Collingwood to West Coast, then they will take what they are offered or no deal.

Just like every other club that bends us over.

Cameron’s contracted for 2026 so if they don’t like what they are offered, they can absolutely say no deal.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

If the AFL actually gave us that, I’d be ok with that deal.

Highly doubt it happens though.

At least it’s rumoured that Don Pyke is considering asking or may have even asked, reported by Ryan Daniels I believe.
There is hope.