List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[plays tall 1]

Whats Flynn Riley's draft range? 206cm ruck

Hard to say. He’s starting to get publicity and has been in good form in the VFL. There aren’t many blokes of that age and size floating around.

He’s playing for Carlton’s VFL team. If Carlton lose TDK, they’re left with Pittonet and Hudson O’Keefe. I suspect they’ll be keen to add another ruck.

I’m sure other clubs looking for a ruck are aware of him.

 

[stallon]

but they DO care about being a destination club, they have been desperate to attract players with all the giant offers they have been throwing about, and will likely get multiple first rounders for NWM as I can't see him playing for the saints next year. The younger poo won't go that high , then again it is St Kilda and he might.

Remember that pick 8 is actually pick 11 after TDK, Draper and Allen compo picks assuming theyre all band 1, then there is 5 academy or f/s kids who should go before or around the same spot as Phillipou as well.

Twomey has Phillipou at 17 in his july phantom guide, if the 5 academy kids do go before Phillipou then that pick 8 will actually be pick 16 - right about where Phillipou is ranked by Twomey

 

[stallon]

If Draper compo falls as band 1 then yes, I could see them doing it. I've been working on the assumption that noone is dumb enough to pay Sam Draper band 1 money.

If Draper winds up band 2, getting Gold Coast involved would make the first trade work. Alternatively, 2 for 5 + Draper compo is a fairly easy trade for both West Coast and Essendon.

Yeah id look at pick 1 or 2 for 5+band 2 compo, assuming we have a trade lined up to turn that into a higher pick or a player we want.
Just dont want to be taking late teens picks into this draft, imo we should only look to the top end then our NGAs and f/s

 

[plays tall 1]

Yeah id look at pick 1 or 2 for 5+band 2 compo, assuming we have a trade lined up to turn that into a higher pick or a player we want.
Just dont want to be taking late teens picks into this draft, imo we should only look to the top end then our NGAs and f/s

I don’t want the club to get too fixated on all of the NGAs and Charlie. Draft them if we think they represent the best choice at that pick, otherwise get someone else. Evans and Banfield would be the higher priorities of the 4 for me, followed by Williams. Walley’s a nice to have if we get AFL relief that includes extra NGAs.

We missed out on Cameron. I suspect we’ll be going after a mature ruck and will need a pick or trade for that.

 

[txbyhull]

What are people's thoughts on the murmurings of Walter included in a 3-way deal with Carlton and Goldy? Think a forward line of Waterman, Walter, and Shanahan is top tier considering their abilities to work up the ground and work off the ball. Just depends on what it looks like in terms of picks coming back given it would likely take pick 2 being moved. There's probably a way to end up with Walter and TDK compo that shrinks our draft hand but focuses it in the top 10. Always the possibility to try and get Moyle and/or Davies in as well. Perth boy and childhood eagles fan after all (Walter)

 

[eaglevision]

What are people's thoughts on the murmurings of Walter included in a 3-way deal with Carlton and Goldy? Think a forward line of Waterman, Walter, and Shanahan is top tier considering their abilities to work up the ground and work off the ball. Just depends on what it looks like in terms of picks coming back given it would likely take pick 2 being moved. There's probably a way to end up with Walter and TDK compo that shrinks our draft hand but focuses it in the top 10. Always the possibility to try and get Moyle and/or Davies in as well. Perth boy and childhood eagles fan after all (Walter)

Walter’s exceptional defensive pressure for a big man would mean we could play Jobe, Snake and Jed in the same F50. Pick 5 (after a pick 1, Ryan for 5,6 trade) for Walter and Davies I’d be ok with. Moyle won’t want to or be allowed to leave.

We’d need to get players like Blight (DFA) and Stumpf (rookie) in as low cost KPD cover as the leftover picks should all be used on mids if we’re taking Jed with pick 5.

Archer would have to play as KPD/ruck.

Walter is still liking WCE posts for all the millennials out there that think that confirms everything.

 

[txbyhull]

Walter’s exceptional defensive pressure for a big man would mean we could play Jobe, Snake and Jed in the same F50. Pick 2 for Walter and Davies I’d be ok with. Moyle won’t want to or be allowed to leave.

We’d need to get players like Blight (DFA) and Stumpf (rookie) in as low cost KPD cover as the leftover picks should all be used on mids if we’re taking Jed with pick 2.
Walter
Archer would have to play as KPD/ruck.

Walter is still liking WCE posts for all the millennials out there that think that confirms everything.

Definitely the dumbass in me speaking here but I'd be absolute over the moon if we could move something like 2, 14 and 19/21/22 (depending on assistance and picks pushed back) for Walter, Davies and the TDK compensation.

It would never happen unless we move at least 4 picks, but something that could either see us getting Walter, Davies, and ending up with at least 2 picks in the first 20 picks including bids I would be over the moon with. Lets us take whoever at 1 and either a Hewett type X-factor mid, a backman or a ruck closer to 20.

Would love Blight, hopefully DFA but wouldnt shock me if we needed to offer a F4 or something silly.

Being realistic it would be easier to load up GC with 2 and all our 2nd and 3rd round picks for Walter, Davies and Pies 1 but them wanting Curnow is probably the onus for moving Walter on, so the logistics on a 3-way deal are obviously much harder

 

[Wet Toast Rule]

Walter is a gun, I would absolutely love to have him

As an aside, I feel Waterman + Shanahan + a KPF / Ruck (BB Williams or an upgrade)would be a good tall combo

Clearly Waterman and Shanahan do not Ruck so we need a tall that can be a back-up Ruck

Think of Brisbane with Joe Daniher (was a great back-up ruck) / Hipwood / Logan Morris in their premiership year

 

[stallon]

Walter’s exceptional defensive pressure for a big man would mean we could play Jobe, Snake and Jed in the same F50. Pick 5 (after a pick 1, Ryan for 5,6 trade) for Walter and Davies I’d be ok with. Moyle won’t want to or be allowed to leave.

We’d need to get players like Blight (DFA) and Stumpf (rookie) in as low cost KPD cover as the leftover picks should all be used on mids if we’re taking Jed with pick 5.

Archer would have to play as KPD/ruck.

Walter is still liking WCE posts for all the millennials out there that think that confirms everything.

Only thing is GCS wont want pick 5, theyll want to get ahead of bids or trade down.
It'd have to be pick 1/2 for Walter if anything

2 + 19 for Walter + Davies + 13 maybe.
Can do 13+14 for 7(port 1st at GCS) or some variation depending what picks we wanna end up with.
Then do the pick 1 for 5+6 with Essendon
3-4 good picks
Get Sharp, Cumming, and whoever

I dont think we need a top 2 pick this year, unless we want CDT/Duursma

 

[stylish]

WC are crying out for experienced, skilful, pacy players with a good kicking skills.

So why are we all keen on trading Ryan off in the 1st place, and for a pick likely to be in the 30's at best or for a minimal pick upgrade in an acknowledged draft with poor depth.

And let's be honest, no team is going to accept Ryan & the Hawks 1st round pick for a pick in the single digits. The teams who have those picks either dont need a Ryan ala GC & Hawks, or need young talent like everyone else finishing in the bottom half of the ladder.

 

[txbyhull]

Only thing is GCS wont want pick 5, theyll want to get ahead of bids or trade down.
It'd have to be pick 1/2 for Walter if anything

2 + 19 for Walter + Davies + 13 maybe.
Can do 13+14 for 7(port 1st at GCS) or some variation depending what picks we wanna end up with.
Then do the pick 1 for 5+6 with Essendon
3-4 good picks
Get Sharp, Cumming, and whoever

I dont think we need a top 2 pick this year, unless we want CDT/Duursma

I mocked an enormous trade earlier while eating some post-gym cereal. Factoring in OA band 1, TDK band 1, Draper band 2, band 2 assistance for eags, Silvagni band 2.

WCE
OUT: 2, 14, 22, 35, 53, WCE F3
IN: 7, 18, Walter, Davies

Basically 2 and F3 for Walter and Davies, 4 picks worth of points to move up to 7 and 18.

CAR
OUT: 7, 37, 46, Curnow
IN: 2, 14, GCS F2, WCE F3

Curnow and 7 for 2, Dean and wherever the remaining points slide to (should be mid 2nd round), pick swaps.

GCS
OUT: 18, Walter, Davies, GCS F2
IN: 22, 35, 37, 46, 53, Curnow

Walter and Davies for Curnow, 18 and 30-36 in '26 for a shit load of points now.

 

[txbyhull]

WC are crying out for experienced, skilful, pacy players with a good kicking skills.

So why are we all keen on trading Ryan off in the 1st place, and for a pick likely to be in the 30's at best or for a minimal pick upgrade in an acknowledged draft with poor depth.

And let's be honest, no team is going to accept Ryan & the Hawks 1st round pick for a pick in the single digits. The teams who have those picks either dont need a Ryan ala GC & Hawks, or need young talent like everyone else finishing in the bottom half of the ladder.

I actually think a lot of people hate the idea of moving him on. I know I do. Everything he provides for us on and off field outweighs a late 20s pick. Especially if our mid-forward connection improves and the delivery becomes even average, he'll go back to kicking 30 goals easily.

 

[TerryFilk]

The Jed Walter discourse is a complete waste of time until we actually get a credible link to him.

 

[Patron]

So we swap Pick 1 and something for 5 and 6 and then Essendon take Sharp, who do we take?

Duursma, Lindsay, Cumming or Greeves. Greeves the closest to sharp in style, but to me not as good as the other 3.

 

[txbyhull]

Duursma, Lindsay, Cumming or Greeves. Greeves the closest to sharp in style, but to me not as good as the other 3.

If the picks shake out how I think they would we'd have 2, 5, 8. I'd like to see Duursma at 2, Phillipou at 5, and then bid on Dean at 8 and squeeze whatever we can out of the Saints if they really want Greeves (which I think they will). Then take Xavier Taylor with what is then about pick 11.

Pick up Steele, Davies, whoever instead of Sharp or Greeves, considering that archetype is being moved away from in the modern game anyways. Heck you could probably see about getting both Steele and Davies out of this for moving back and then moving 10/11 into next year for Davies and a F1. Take Kondogiannis with the hawks pick (or Taylor if he makes it past North and the Dogs)

 

[txbyhull]

The Jed Walter discourse is a complete waste of time until we actually get a credible link to him.

You're fun.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

WC are crying out for experienced, skilful, pacy players with a good kicking skills.

So why are we all keen on trading Ryan off in the 1st place, and for a pick likely to be in the 30's at best or for a minimal pick upgrade in an acknowledged draft with poor depth.

And let's be honest, no team is going to accept Ryan & the Hawks 1st round pick for a pick in the single digits. The teams who have those picks either dont need a Ryan ala GC & Hawks, or need young talent like everyone else finishing in the bottom half of the ladder.

I think that’s what’s being said, that there’s a disconnect between the team’s interested and his market value.

Add that to the fact he doesn’t seem to be furiously pursuing a trade and it’s most likely nothing happens there.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I think that’s what’s being said, that there’s a disconnect between the team’s interested and his market value.

Add that to the fact he doesn’t seem to be furiously pursuing a trade and it’s most likely nothing happens there.

I think he likely is pursuing a trade. Thats why his name keeps popping up. But he hasn't found a club that will offer him the contract he wants which is why there is no detail or specificity in the articles.

 

[PepperTom32]

Thanks. Nothing that hasn’t already been discussed.

Lawd id hate to see him in a Port guernsey.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Walter’s exceptional defensive pressure for a big man would mean we could play Jobe, Snake and Jed in the same F50. Pick 5 (after a pick 1, Ryan for 5,6 trade) for Walter and Davies I’d be ok with. Moyle won’t want to or be allowed to leave.

We’d need to get players like Blight (DFA) and Stumpf (rookie) in as low cost KPD cover as the leftover picks should all be used on mids if we’re taking Jed with pick 5.

Archer would have to play as KPD/ruck.

Walter is still liking WCE posts for all the millennials out there that think that confirms everything.

Would love Walter, but I struggle to see how we wouldn’t be the land of giants if he came along. We’d still need one of the Williams brothers in there to ruck as I wouldn’t be throwing Shanahan or Walter in there.

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

to the cats. You heard it here first. Source? Just what I reckon…

 

[Big_Birdy]

Important to not I think re: Liam is we may not be planning to use any luck we get for him.

It could be valuable points to trade with the Suns for Port’s first. And as such it’s value won’t diminish in that context after bidding.

 

[Wight Wolf]

I would be very surprised if Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

left West Coast. More than probably anyone else

 

[Obeanie1]

The first 2 years or so of having the draft on two nights there was some value in trading the first pick on night 2 but more recently clubs have held the pick as the offers weren’t compelling enough

Would have something to do with the first pick that used to be around 20 is now more like 30 so much later in the draft meaning clubs aren’t as willing to trade up using anything significant

This year it could be almost mid 30’s

North trades their F 1st last year for pick 27.

For a playeryetto debut.

Was a very strong draft.

Feel this years first pick in the 2nd round isnt as valuable. No Shanahan level talent that deep .