List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[PepperTom32]

Without them actually clarifying it properly, I assume it means they can stay with our NGA, they still go through the draft like normal but we retain the matching rights each year.

If it works this way then it would mean if Lawson Humphries had stayed in our NGA we could have matched the Geelong bid in 2023.

Good point. Also, do we know if the new rules of requiring academy prospects to be in the NGA for at least 3 years (or whatever it was) prior to their draft year will affect any of our upcoming NGA prospects, this year or in the future?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Have you seen our midfield? If he can get the ball then he’s one up on everyone except Harley.

Would like to see us land two of Steele, mitchell, Shiel (rookie spot), Simpkin and Oliver. We would suddenly have some guys that can get 25+.

1. Steele is too slow
2. Mitchell is a crab who can't kick
3. Shiel has no defence. Coaches pull their hair out when players won't play the game plan.
4. Simpkin is a maybe, but he's on 900k and he's another Liam Baker.
5. Oliver. Carries way too much baggies. Kid's on drucks.

I don't think any of these guys help us.

 

[dinnaz]

Just so we're clear, you're unhappy Waterman kicked 53 goals in 20 games for a team that finished 16th?

Most of us think you should celebrate a very late draft pick, father son becoming a wonderful player... controversial I know

Fev used to kick 80-100
Lets not pretend now

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

NM did that to get Matt Whitlock who I really rated. 200cm, Coates TL U18 TOTY CHB that can play just as effectively up forward. Time will tell if it was a good decision.

It’s extremely likely to be a bad decision to trade a top 5 pick for a guy drafted at 27.

To me one of the funniest parts is that they picked Whitlock 3 spots ahead of Shanahan. Now one teenaged year from a KPP certainly does not mean that one player will be better than the other, but if you’ve got a tall like Shanahan who performed so well in the second half of the year, you could at least say you’ve very likely got a future stud KPP. Instead North are left trying to explain why, as a club that has been bad for many years, you traded away your future first round pick for a guy whose entire League output consisted of 3 marks and 1 goal across 2 matches.

 

[Hasselhough]

How’s Yeo a half back? Ginbey, Starcevich, Hough, Baker, McCarthy are all comfortably head of him in those back pocket / HB roles, then there’s Allan and Greggo too.

I think we need another established midfielder too but they have to have some outside ability.

Yeo won his first AA playing HBF

 

[amazingjoshy]

Have you seen our midfield? If he can get the ball then he’s one up on everyone except Harley.

Would like to see us land two of Steele, mitchell, Shiel (rookie spot), Simpkin and Oliver. We would suddenly have some guys that can get 25+.

One of these guys would definitely help us with a big body in the midfield provided they wanted to come and didn't cost too much in draft capital

2 is crazy talk

 

[Goomba1973]

I keep holding out hope for Walter for pick 2

Pick 2 and 17 for Baily Humphrey , Alex Davies and pick 8. Wait a couple of years then get Walter back to WA

 

[Bluke]

Yeo will come back and play midfield and it will be glorious <3 6

 

[Elite Pete]

Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

30

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

leading the Pies BnF at rd 19 when they were top of the ladder and some saying they didn’t want him.

I think Nick will win it but would’ve been interesting if the Pies didn’t up there offer and what they would’ve demanded for him if he wins the BnF.

 

[Elite Pete]

I keep holding out hope for Walter for pick 2

A lot of there young crop are wanting out. Sadly it’s all ten vic lads would be good to see an ex WA player want to go home Powell or Walter

 

[TerryFilk]

Yeo won his first AA playing HBF

Lol, I’m aware. How’s that relevant to 2026 Yeo?

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Darcy Cameron leading the Pies BnF at rd 19 when they were top of the ladder and some saying they didn’t want him.

I think Nick will win it but would’ve been interesting if the Pies didn’t up there offer and what they would’ve demanded for him if he wins the BnF.

No doubt he’s a great player. I had reservations over what he would’ve cost trade wise.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

1. Steele is too slow
2. Mitchell is a crab who can't kick
3. Shiel has no defence. Coaches pull their hair out when players won't play the game plan.
4. Simpkin is a maybe, but he's on 900k and he's another Liam Baker.
5. Oliver. Carries way too much baggies. Kid's on drucks.

I don't think any of these guys help us.

Much as I would like to recruit Rowell or Ashcroft or Daicos or Bontempelli, I don’t think those types are available let alone eager to play for the worst side in the comp in one of the most remote cities in the world.

Sometimes beggars do have to be choosers.

 

[TerryFilk]

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but this doesn’t sound like he knows he’s for sure going to the Suns?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

One of these guys would definitely help us with a big body in the midfield provided they wanted to come and didn't cost too much in draft capital

2 is crazy talk

How would Dylan Shiel help? He's a selfish player with no defence. He just swans around like a f-wit.

 

[amazingjoshy]

How would Dylan Shiel help? He's a selfish player with no defence. He just swans around like a f-wit.

I missed Shiel's name there

So you can relax

 

[Elite Pete]

No doubt he’s a great player. I had reservations over what he would’ve cost trade wise.

And probably fair enough with our recent history but the gap between him and our best in the position is huge. Ruck rules might change that a little

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Much as I would like to recruit Rowell or Ashcroft or Daicos or Bontempelli, I don’t think those types are available let alone eager to play for the worst side in the comp.

Sometimes beggars do have to be choosers.

We're better off using Yeo in house, and running Graham, Baker, Hough through the midfield in stints. Guys like Hewitt have to be bled into the midfield rather than thrown in there.

I don't mind Simpkin, but not at $900k a year. Clarry would be great, except the rumour has it that he can't stop enjoying himself. You don't want that at a club.

 

[Bender_]

Fev used to kick 80-100
Lets not pretend now

And Peter Hudson used to kick 150.

Not sure what point you're trying to make but nonetheless you failed.

 

[WCE777]

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but this doesn’t sound like he knows he’s for sure going to the Suns?

maybe, they have 4 good prospects in the 1st 2 rounds this year, but maybe a couple of 2nd round talents next year probably.
If they want to get their Academy players this year they can trade out some stocks of next years.
Or they could trade Davies or Humphreys to us to get some more picks, or we could take Patterson!

 

[Mop]

How’s Yeo a half back? Ginbey, Starcevich, Hough, Baker, McCarthy are all comfortably head of him in those back pocket / HB roles, then there’s Allan and Greggo too.

I think we need another established midfielder too but they have to have some outside ability.

they’ve come out and said Yeo will playing HB dude, you’re a month behind the times

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

And Peter Hudson used to kick 150.

Not sure what point you're trying to make but nonetheless you failed.

Fred Fanning used to kick 18 goals a game.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

We're better off using Yeo in house, and running Graham, Baker, Hough through the midfield in stints. Guys like Hewitt have to be bled into the midfield rather than thrown in there.

I don't mind Simpkin, but not at $900k a year. Clarry would be great, except the rumour has it that he can't stop enjoying himself. You don't want that at a club.

Yeo played 0 matches last season and has been injured more often than not the past 5 years. At last word he’s trying to avoid a third ankle surgery this year, which is a concern in a sport where running is fairly integral to playing the game. Not to mention that the club seems to have no confidence in him playing mostly midfield in the unlikely event that he does get healthy.

If they don’t go for any of the names suggested they’re essentially going into next season with the same supporting crew as 2025, when even Ray Charles could see that the club’s only true franchise-level talent was crying out for support at the coalface. I’d like him to stick around, personally, which he definitely won’t be doing if he continues to be the only midfielder with much semblance of skill and toughness in a team that’s losing nearly every match.

And while I don’t think Simpkin is the best fit, money quite literally does not matter. We are the youngest side in the comp with a lot of players on cheap contracts. With the possible exception of WA natives, we are inevitably going to have to pay overs to bring eastern states natives over to play for a side that has reached historically-bad depths.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Interesting developments with Jack Steele

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Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

today.

I have been very firm that he is the guy we should be pursuing to bring across as genuine inside experience for the midfield and it is interesting to see that the Saints have given him a nudge out the door after appearing that wasn't quite on the agenda.

I think it has taken Steele by surprise a little - and his initial reaction that his manager is putting out to Tom Morris that he wants to stay and just be a 'player' for the Saints and be part of their seemingly confirmed upcoming period of success. Let's leave that part alone for now.

I saw an initial suggestion that WCE was a firm 'No.' for Steele.
It would be a shame if he was completely closed to the opportunity but if he's still thinking he wants to stay at the Saints, then he's probably not thinking about uprooting his life and moving to the other side of the country to play out his days as a 'mentor for the kids' in a terrible side. Great players have done it - Luke Hodge for example - but for the most part it's guys who have enjoyed a measure of success. Steele hasn't.

Then there is word that Adelaide might be keen. Interesting. I do wonder if he's really slotting into that Adelaide side, where a guy like Matt Crouch

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Matt Crouch

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

has just finished his days injured and in the SANFL. There would also be the matter of his salary.
That all said - if Adelaide is keen, nobody would blame Steele for going down that road - he could find himself in a better position on the ladder than he ever has.

....but that all said, if the guy can't get his head around the fact that the club he has been captaining for a few years has told him to 'consider his options' and is keen to see out his deal with the Saints.....then he's probably not the guy for us anyway - we need guys who are 100% on board for the next few years, not a guy we need to twist the arm of to see an opportunity.

Interesting to see how it plays out!

 

[dinnaz]

feels like the saints are trying a hail mary to win a premiership under RTB.

none of those guys they are bringing in are solidified A-graders.
TDK may have potential of being an A-grader.
B-graders on A-grader money.

Brisbane 2009 trade period. Helter skelter without filling any actual gaps.