List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Happy Mastenator]

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Good to see it reported

Hawks 1st + our 2nd for a top 1p pick would be great

Make it hard to understand the CDT chatter if this is the case.

Can take Sharp and Dursma. Both who are unlikely to make it to ~7, then still have Schubert available who is the best key position player in the draft.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Hey guys sorry if it’s already been mentioned.
Thought the Oscar Allen deal would of dropped by now.
Could something been in dispute like length of contract and money which is influencing pick 2 ?

Probably all being negotiated/linked with Starc and Dev. Imagine we’ll get them all at same time

 

[Mop]

Can’t see the point of CDT.

Bloke is neither a ruck or a forward and won’t be any good for years.

How can a team in such a dire state as ours waste such precious draft capital on a player like this.

My point isn’t whether we should be taking CDT, the overwhelming consensus is do not want, I asked the question to frame it if we took one of the highly rated mids with the GC pick would that make people happy even if we took CDT

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

This board needs to stop obsessing with Sharp, we're not going to draft him.

Every year the player everyone obsesses with doesn't get drafted by us.

2024 it was Draper, we traded pick 3 away and took Bo Allan.
2023 we thought we'd split pick 1 for a bounty of top 10 picks, but instead took that spud Harley.
2021 it was Johnson, we drafted Chesser.
2016 it was Taranto, posters naively thought we were the only ones who saw how awesome he was projecting and he'd last to our pick in the teens.

As far back as 2001 this board obsessed with Polak and raged when we instead took Chris Judd at #3 (there's a fun thread floating around

 

[Mop]

Problem is we think Ryan is worth a R1.

Saints probably think he's worth a R2.

If we can compromise and Saints give us a R1.4 then I say that's a fair deal for everyone.

FWIW I think a decent placed R2 for Liam Ryan is fine.

 

[eaglevision]

My point isn’t whether we should be taking CDT, the overwhelming consensus is do not want, I asked the question to frame it if we took one of the highly rated mids with the GC pick would that make people happy even if we took CDT

Makes more sense to take the two best mids 1-2 then the best KPP (Schubert) at 7.

If we can’t get 7 and are desperate for a ruck I’d prefer take 2 best mids then Emmett at 17 or 24 but I really hope we don’t do that, especially with BVR and Axel draftable next year, noting Axel can’t play until 2028.

 

[Mop]

COACHES AT COMBINE​

CLUB coaches joined recruiting teams at the MCG on Friday and Saturday to get a first-hand look at this year's draft class.

West Coast's Andrew McQualter

Andrew Mcqualter

Age

39

Ht

179cm

Wt

74kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.2

3star

, Sydney's Dean Cox

Dean Cox

Age

44

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.0

1star

, St Kilda's Ross Lyon, Melbourne's Steven King

Steven King

Age

47

Ht

201cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

HO

16.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

HO

8.8

5star

and Richmond's Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

48

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

were among the head coaches to be at the Telstra AFL Draft Combine at different stages as this year's pool went through its paces.


Interesting. Hands on coaching

 

[bombard]

COACHES AT COMBINE​

CLUB coaches joined recruiting teams at the MCG on Friday and Saturday to get a first-hand look at this year's draft class.

West Coast's Andrew McQualter, Sydney's Dean Cox, St Kilda's Ross Lyon, Melbourne's Steven King and Richmond's Adem Yze were among the head coaches to be at the Telstra AFL Draft Combine at different stages as this year's pool went through its paces.


Interesting. Hands on coaching

One of observations I have of mini is that the bloke seems to have boundless energy for the job. Hard not to like him.

 

[Dark Sharks]

This board needs to stop obsessing with Sharp, we're not going to draft him.

Every year the player everyone obsesses with doesn't get drafted by us.

To be fair campaigner, you have absolutely no idea what the club is going to do.

Just like all of us.

Now take a seat. Before i put you down

 

[Peptide Pig]

Daicos is a special player. He's the best I've seen since Ablett and Judd. He's an anomaly. Not a guy that a credible person would use for comparison.

Credible like comparing Duursma to a 1000 goal full forward?

 

[Proeagle]

This board needs to stop obsessing with Sharp, we're not going to draft him.

Every year the player everyone obsesses with doesn't get drafted by us.

2024 it was Draper, we traded pick 3 away and took Bo Allan.
2023 we thought we'd split pick 1 for a bounty of top 10 picks, but instead took that spud Harley.
2021 it was Johnson, we drafted Chesser.
2016 it was Taranto, posters naively thought we were the only ones who saw how awesome he was projecting and he'd last to our pick in the teens.

As far back as 2001 this board obsessed with Polak and raged when we instead took Chris Judd at #3 (there's a fun thread floating around

Since 2022, we have mostly got what we wanted.

2022 we all wanted Hewett and we were divided on Ginbey/Phillipou. Phillipou was taken before us, so not much we can do.
2023 Harley or a godfather deal.
2024 most hoped Bo would slide to us. Many of us wanted Travaglia or perhaps Lindsay but they went well before our pick.

2025 Patterson is a fantasy that I would love to come true but cant see it happening, even if we did bid picks one and 2. Firstly we will never do those bids and even if we did, I'm sure GC can use a future pick, or the way they are selling off players, will find the currency.
Hard to say with this year. Duursma has to be number 1 but pick 2 is a bit of a mystery to what eagles want. Do they go CDT, Sharpe or someone lower down they like.

I wonder if the combine will change the order at all. Robey, Cummings or someone else may blow everyone away with their results.


edit - Stand corrected Phillipou was one pick after Ginbey.

 

[Elite Pete]

Since 2022, we have mostly got what we wanted.

2022 we all wanted Hewett and we were divided on Ginbey/Phillipou. Phillipou was taken before us, so not much we can do.
2023 Harley or a godfather deal.
2024 most hoped Bo would slide to us. Many of us wanted Travaglia or perhaps Lindsay but they went well before our pick.

2025 Patterson is a fantasy that I would love to come true but cant see it happening, even if we did bid picks one and 2. Firstly we will never do those bids and even if we did, I'm sure GC can use a future pick, or the way they are selling off players, will find the currency.
Hard to say with this year. Duursma has to be number 1 but pick 2 is a bit of a mystery to what eagles want. Do they go CDT, Sharpe or someone lower down they like.

I wonder if the combine will change the order at all. Robey, Cummings or someone else may blow everyone away with their results.

Pou was after Ginbey

 

[Wight Wolf]

Dumb question, has a club ever bid on an academy kid from another club and got him successfully ?

 

[eaglevision]

Dumb question, has a club ever bid on an academy kid from another club and got him successfully ?

Plenty of times but not usually at the pointy end. Swans passed on Pies bid on Cochrane between Gross and Grego last year for example who smashed the 2km time trial (6:05) as a big man.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

A couple of months ago certain posters were claiming people were idiots if we didn’t take Sharp at pick one and were quick to attack anyone who had a different opinion now it’s Duursma.
Whatever ya reckon peeps!

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

we're not going to draft him

you have absolutely no idea what the club is going to do.

 

[Proeagle]

Pou was after Ginbey

yeah I misread that. Added an edit

 

[Proeagle]

I cant believe we are on the final day of the draft combine and all we have heard is the 2km time trial results. Are all the journos busy obsessing about B Smith and Caros outrage?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Total career goals and behinds scored divided by total games played. Using the same calculation Phillip Matera scored
389 goals 227 points and divide that by 179 games played the result is an average of 2.17 per game
Now that is elite, Watson isn't elite by that comparison. Marc Lecras played 219 games and kicked 441.253 which is 2.01 per game. Ryan is nowhere near elite nor consistent by comparison to those 2 eagles. If Ryan didn't go missing in a lot of games his stats would be a lot better.

That’s a lot of words to say “oops I misread 1.4 goals per game as 1 goal 4 behinds”

 

[eaglevision]

I cant believe we are on the final day of the draft combine and all we have heard is the 2km time trial results. Are all the journos busy obsessing about B Smith and Caros outrage?

Other than the biometric measurements the only testing they have done is the 2km time trial. The 20m, agility etc is about to start.

 

[DorothyG]

but instead took that spud Harley.

 

[Proeagle]

Total career goals and behinds scored divided by total games played. Using the same calculation Phillip Matera scored
389 goals 227 points and divide that by 179 games played the result is an average of 2.17 per game

I used to think Sumich was the reason we kicked so many points. But seeing Phil kicked 2goals 17pts a game, maybe I owe that dope an apology.

 

[Hasselhough]

The bombers are as desperate as us for mids, so Sharp probably wont last past their first picks, assuming they keep 5 and 6. A few are predicting/hoping they trade for our 1st (Duursma). But if that doesn't happen, it sounds like Sharpe could be a bomber. They are so desperate for mids, they are talking about Andrew McGrath to the middle next year, which has never worked in the past for them.

Tigers on the other hand I've read, aren't as interested in Sharp as they have Josh Smillie who they think is a very similar type.

Recon bomber would be interested in pick 2 for Robey ?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Credible like comparing Duursma to a 1000 goal full forward?
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[Tugga27]

Just saw this on The Age.

Surely not?

Campbell Chesser and All-Australian forward Liam Ryan requested trades to Carlton and St Kilda, respectively. Close friend Ryan’s impending exit could lead to Tyler Brockman exploring his options as well. – Marc McGowan