List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Mop]

Sharp at pick 2 is too big a risk. Good as he is in his position, his lack of athleticism makes it that much harder to translate it to AFL level.

Need to remember the guys in the AFL are the best of the best across probably 10-12 drafts. That's who he'll be going up against.

I'd be pretty disappointed if at pick 2 he only ever becomes a role player.

Sharp's the best inside mid available in this draft, something we sorely lack. He's a bull who will dive into the bottom of a scrum and emerge with the footy.

Priddis had f*ck-all athleticism and did the same thing.

Both of these are perfectly good takes and both right.

I agree with D4E - I consider Masten a waste of a pick at 3 despite 200+ games. I know objectively and based on return this is probably the wrong take but it’s how I feel and how I’ve always felt.

I also agree with Woosh that based on the YouTube highlights, the odd game I’ve watched online and the expert aggregate take that Dyson Sharp is both the best pure inside mid and the best fit for our list.

If we took Sharp at 2 I wouldn’t be disappointed for reasons shared by Woosh unless it transpired we turned down an opportunity to improve on favourable terms (say, Essendon’s picks)

 

[Cuzz09]

So...

1. Duursmaa
2. Match gc for Patterson
either
2. Patterson
or
2. split: sharp/cumming etc

I likey

 

[Cuzz09]

nek minnit trades 1 and 2 for 3,4,5,6,7,8 somehow

(*be pretty good too actually)

 

[Mr Q]

By getting picks back...

But everyone will be looking at that and seeing a buyers market for their picks.

I could see us trading out everything after pick 2 to GC for an excess from their hand in 2026/2027 (after all, they'll be in deficit anyway, so they don't want to keep those picks).

If we can't move 13 up then 13, 34, 41, 52 and our FF2 for 29, F1, FF1 and F2. Start setting ourselves up with draft capital for next year. We have the points, they need the points - we have the hand. Our risk is bids on Banfield and Williams, but probably an acceptable risk.

Essendon (21/27/30) are probably the only other club with picks that could interest GC.

(This would be a draft day sort of deal though as even with the player fire sale they've been doing GC probably don't have the list spots to hold all those picks)

 

[Cuzz09]

I actually want Banfield more than Duursma so hope he doesn't fall through the cracks

 

[eagles rule]

But is he quick?

If not he sounds like Culley.

Big bodied mid.

To be talked up at pick 2 you need to be reasonably quick surely?

Robey looks to be faster than Bont and he spreads really well looking for the handball receives .. He’s got leadership qualities as he demands the ball and backs himself to win the contests ..

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Interesting decisions to be made this year - if no more trades occur and we go into the draft with 1, 2, 13:

• Pick 1 for Duursma seems like a no-brainer. Position of need, best available talent.
• Pick 2 - do we go for best talent available (CDT?) OR best talent in a position of need (Mid)?
• Pick 13 - taking best talent available probably makes the most sense this late in the draft

Picking the best available talent is generally the best approach - but our midfield is dire & I think Mini/Woosh/Pyke see it that way.

I know we might be able to "extract maximum value" by trading pick 2 for something like 7/8 - but personally, i'd have no qualms picking the third or fourth best talent if they were a midfielder.

E.g. We could:

• Get Sharp/Robey or whichever mid we rate highest at pick 2
• Put the pick squeeze on GC by picking Uwland/Patterson (perhaps with pick 1) if they overpay for Trac and snag one of these

 

[twce13]

I actually want Banfield more than Duursma so hope he doesn't fall through the cracks

if banfield and evans dont make thier way onto our list, the ppl at west coast arent doing thier jobs right.

 

[shooshka]

But everyone will be looking at that and seeing a buyers market for their picks.

I could see us trading out everything after pick 2 to GC for an excess from their hand in 2026/2027 (after all, they'll be in deficit anyway, so they don't want to keep those picks).

If we can't move 13 up then 13, 34, 41, 52 and our FF2 for 29, F1, FF1 and F2. Start setting ourselves up with draft capital for next year. We have the points, they need the points - we have the hand. Our risk is bids on Banfield and Williams, but probably an acceptable risk.

Essendon (21/27/30) are probably the only other club with picks that could interest GC.

(This would be a draft day sort of deal though as even with the player fire sale they've been doing GC probably don't have the list spots to hold all those picks)

The future deficit is worth around pick 10/11, so if they think they will finish top 8 (they do think that!) and they think they can get more points in 2025 than the deficit (they can) then I think they trade their F1. FF1 maybe also depending on points needed.

The question is can we find a way to get enough points and ideally keep 13, to make it worth their while (I know no bids 1/2 is massive…. But also we can’t actually offer that).

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Interesting decisions to be made this year - if no more trades occur and we go into the draft with 1, 2, 13:

• Pick 1 for Duursma seems like a no-brainer. Position of need, best available talent.
• Pick 2 - do we go for best talent available (CDT?) OR best talent in a position of need (Mid)?
• Pick 13 - taking best talent available probably makes the most sense this late in the draft

Picking the best available talent is generally the best approach - but our midfield is dire & I think Mini/Woosh/Pyke see it that way.

I know we might be able to "extract maximum value" by trading pick 2 for something like 7/8 - but personally, i'd have no qualms picking the third or fourth best talent if they were a midfielder.

E.g. We could:

• Get Sharp/Robey or whichever mid we rate highest at pick 2
• Put the pick squeeze on GC by picking Uwland/Patterson (perhaps with pick 1) if they overpay for Trac and snag one of these

I'd actually consider seeing whether Essendon or North wanted to trade their two picks in the 20's for pick 13, depending on who was left there. And using those two mid 20's picks for Freddy and Curtin.

 

[Cuzz09]

What about Rodriguez? Seems like a lot of WA talent available

 

[Patron]

I was thinking of Essendon for that trade. 2,13 for 5,6. Not sure I’d do 2 for 7,8 with the Dees unless we knew they were there

If we were doing that trade with the dees I would be gunning for a future pick from them as well.

 

[Keys]

I think it’s very unlikely that Gold Coast don’t match bids for Uwland and Patterson and despite some rather odd trades in the past they have proven themselves to be very adept at collating the points needed to match bids

So I doubt we get Patterson

But by trading out 7 and 8 with only 24 coming back as is being suggested, they’re leaving themselves vulnerable. Especially if we lodge bids with picks 1 and 2

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Can we take none of the above? They all have fatal flaws.

I mean all players we use these rookie spots for are going to have fatal flaws.

Personally I love the idea of picking up:

• some discarded mids from clubs with stacked midfielders
• top state league players who might be able to translate their games to AFL.

Worst case they never make it at AFL level but are good people, bring strong AFL-level training standards and make our WAFL team instantly better - our final WAFL games this year with Gross being the only recognised mid on our AFL list was a J.O.K.E. We can't develop young players in the WAFL in an uncompetitive team.

Best case they become solid role-players in the AFL within our midfield structure, leveraging their best attributes while buffering their flaws in other areas.

 

[eaglevision]

If we were doing that trade with the dees I would be gunning for a future pick from them as well.

2,13,F2 for 7,8,F1 would be ballsy

 

[BEagle22]

If Adelaide walk Ah Chee to the pre season draft, surely we just nab him.

Should easily be able to afford whatever price he puts up?

 

[Proeagle]

What happened with Petch signing with Carlton? I see he is now going to sign with a WAFL club.

Blues were really keen last I heard.

 

[Cuzz09]

What happened with Petch signing with Carlton? I see he is now going to sign with a WAFL club.

Blues were really keen last I heard.

Prob rocked up unshaven and in ugg boots

 

[Proeagle]

Prob rocked up unshaven and in ugg boots

He would still be their quickest player wearing ugg boots

 

[Broken_Chairs]

2,13,F2 for 7,8,F1 would be ballsy

Dees could easily fall apart next year and be worse than us... a real tantilising death ride

 

[CountryLad]

If Adelaide walk Ah Chee to the pre season draft, surely we just nab him. Should easily be able to afford whatever price he puts up?

He won’t get to the psd it’s simply a game of who blinks first between both clubs.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

What happened with Petch signing with Carlton? I see he is now going to sign with a WAFL club.

Blues were really keen last I heard.

They got Chess for speed I guess

Don't want to pillage too many players from the "worst AFL list in history"

 

[Cuzz09]

Dees could easily fall apart next year and be worse than us... a real tantilising death ride

So you're saying there is a chance we could have 1,2 again next year?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

What happened with Petch signing with Carlton? I see he is now going to sign with a WAFL club.

Blues were really keen last I heard.

They got Chesser. Probably thought that was enough speed for any one team.

 

[Mop]

lol just read the fatal flaws comment bpit sharemburg. geez

I have no idea what this is trying to say