List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Tyberious Funk]

I've done more reading up on him.

Cal Twomey - CDT (3) - Position RUCK
ESPN power rankings - CDT (4) - Position RUCK
Zero Hanger - CDT (3) - Position RUCK/FORWARD
RookieMeCentral - CDT (6) - Position RUCK/FORWARD
MSN - roaming RUCK

Ruckety, ruck, ruck, ruck. What am I missing?

Well, yeah... but that's just, like... their opinion.

What do the real experts here on BigFooty say?

 

[ghostbat12]

Next person to legitimately suggest we get Hobbs is getting punched in the dick.

The guy sucks.

They're celebrating over on the Essendon board.

it was obvious on draft night. if anyone recalls the video, he managed to slightly snipe at his sister who was excited for him.

I can see why these types no longer make it in afl. you have to have ability to cover ground at good pace, otherwise you are a liability.

 

[MrAsh7777]

If CDT really is 204 now (and possibly still growing) that really does change things.

We also have to remember that the clubs have all the combine info, whereas we just have the top tens. If, as someone said higher up, his jumps were just outside the top ten he's definitely more appealing, which is a good thing no matter what way we go. Either we draft a more appealing prospect, or there's more drive for say essendon to get silly and offer 5+6. Can't lose.

What a roller-coaster CDT has been:

• Eagles linked to CDT with early picks. Makes sense, have seriously struggled there with Flynn/BJ.
• Hang on. The bloke can't jump?? 200cm kid with no leap doesn't sound like NicNat's occa doppelganger. Liking the option to split pick 2 for Sharp and another top 10.
• A potential 4cm growth spurt? Give me tickets to the 204cm CDT train!

 

[Elite Pete]

Club uploaded a Starcevich video of him going into the club. Cripps was there so doubt he is retiring. PSD/rookie list move likely imo depending how many bids and how many of our academy/fs kids we want.

 

[JackOutback]

What a roller-coaster CDT has been:

• Eagles linked to CDT with early picks. Makes sense, have seriously struggled there with Flynn/BJ.
• Hang on. The bloke can't jump?? 200cm kid with no leap doesn't sound like NicNat's occa doppelganger. Liking the option to split pick 2 for Sharp and another top 10.
• A potential 4cm growth spurt? Give me tickets to the 204cm CDT train!

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Club uploaded a Starcevich video of him going into the club. Cripps was there so doubt he is retiring. PSD/rookie list move likely imo depending how many bids and how many of our academy/fs kids we want.

Idea Cripps would retire was insane to begin with

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

It does seem unbelievable that we have had the worst individual season and worst run over the last 4 seasons any club has had in a long time. And our WAFL team is rubbish. Yet we are debating and struggling to find list spots. Maybe we need to be a bit more ruthless and cut our losses with non - performers a bit quicker. Don't let a small loss run on and become a big loss.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

It does seem unbelievable that we have had the worst individual season and worst run over the last 4 seasons any club has had in a long time. And our WAFL team is rubbish. Yet we are debating and struggling to find list spots. Maybe we need to be a bit more ruthless and cut our losses with non - performers a bit quicker. Don't let a small loss run on and become a big loss.

Could it be that we’ve done the deep cull of our list over the past three years, and the reason we’re tight for spots is they’re all kids on their rookie contracts or short first extension, and we have extensive high end draft picks to use eating into the spots more quickly?

 

[THE A5]

Next person to legitimately suggest we get Hobbs is getting punched in the dick.

The guy sucks.

They're celebrating over on the Essendon board.

What if being punched in the dick is their kink?

 

[THE A5]

"In four seasons, Keays only crossed 20+ disposals twice. We'd be stupid to consider picking him up."

- An Adelaide fan in 2019, probably.

For every Ben Keays theres about 50 blokes in a similar position that don’t turn their career around

 

[hbk2015]

Hobbs>Hall

 

[Bestbird]

Could it be that we’ve done the deep cull of our list over the past three years, and the reason we’re tight for spots is they’re all kids on their rookie contracts or short first extension, and we have extensive high end draft picks to use eating into the spots more quickly?

We also added 2 players from the mid season draft this year

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Could it be that we’ve done the deep cull of our list over the past three years, and the reason we’re tight for spots is they’re all kids on their rookie contracts or short first extension, and we have extensive high end draft picks to use eating into the spots more quickly?

There are players who are not kids on the list who are not adding much. Owies, Cole, Cripps and Hutchinson to name 4 of them. They are not part of the clubs future and we all know it. I wouldn't cut them for the sake of cutting them just to add whoever is still available at Pick 100 in the draft.

But if there is a young player who has been cut by another club (like Ben Hobbs) who the coaching staff think is a 30% or better chance that they could add enough value to him to make him a best 22 player then it should be a no brainer to cut (and pay out if still in contract) players like those 4. I am not endorsing Hobbs. I am just saying, a club that has won only one game should have some ability to find a list spot if there is a young player available who might be worth investing in.

And i think given your form of getting everything wrong always when it comes to the clubs list maybe you should refrain from commenting on it. Lets not forget you were totally and utterly opposed to the cull you just mentioned. Everything was fine. It was all Covid's fault. And we were going to rebound straight back into the top 8. How did that work out? And you were the biggest Simpson barracker on here and thought he was the best coach ever ... until the day after the club sacked him and then you did a total 180 overnight and now it was totally justified to sack him. Admit it, you have no opinions of your own. You are an NPC who thinks everything the club does is 100% the right decision And if it changes it's mind and does something different tomorrow you completely forget your position from yesterday and start arguing for the opposite.

 

[Proeagle]

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I hope CDT loses 5cms before draft day down to 195cm. Would make a perfect sized midfielder we need. Especially with his sprint and long distance times.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

There are players who are not kids on the list who are not adding much. Owies, Cole, Cripps and Hutchinson to name 4 of them. They are not part of the clubs future and we all know it. I wouldn't cut them for the sake of cutting them just to add whoever is still available at Pick 100 in the draft.

But if there is a young player who has been cut by another club (like Ben Hobbs) who the coaching staff think is a 30% or better chance that they could add enough value to him to make him a best 22 player then it should be a no brainer to cut (and pay out if still in contract) players like those 4. I am not endorsing Hobbs. I am just saying, a club that has won only one game should have some ability to find a list spot if there is a young player available who might be worth investing in.

Was gonna respond to this…

And i think given your form of getting everything wrong always when it comes to the clubs list maybe you should refrain from commenting on it. Lets not forget you were totally and utterly opposed to the cull you just mentioned. Everything was fine. It was all Covid's fault. And we were going to rebound straight back into the top 8. How did that work out? And you were the biggest Simpson barracker on here and thought he was the best coach ever ... until the day after the club sacked him and then you did a total 180 overnight and now it was totally justified to sack him. Admit it, you have no opinions of your own. You are an NPC who thinks everything the club does is 100% the right decision And if it changes it's mind and does something different tomorrow you completely forget your position from yesterday and start arguing for the opposite.

…then saw this.

Your reading comprehension is worse than your writing if you truly believe any of that. And boy howdy is your writing a slog.

Think you can have a day off from this thread for the hell of it, give the rest of us some peace and quiet to discuss things like grownups.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Could it be that we’ve done the deep cull of our list over the past three years, and the reason we’re tight for spots is they’re all kids on their rookie contracts or short first extension, and we have extensive high end draft picks to use eating into the spots more quickly?

Hutch and his

Will.never cease to amaze me.

It's not like we need to cut too many more either. Barnett, Cripps off the main list, delist Owies or some other spud and you're done.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Hutch and his

Will.never cease to amaze me.

It's not like we need to cut too many more either. Barnett, Cripps off the main list, delist Owies or some other spud and you're done.

Four years for Hutch is astonishing, but he’d be on the list one way or another at this point, regardless of how long he had left to run.

Think most agree that massaging the Barnett or Cripps (or both) list spots would be good decisions.

 

[Proeagle]

Four years for Hutch is astonishing, but he’d be on the list one way or another at this point, regardless of how long he had left to run.

Think most agree that massaging the Barnett or Cripps (or both) list spots would be good decisions.

I'd like to see Hutch settled in the forwardline. Wanted him as a midfielder but that hasnt worked out. We did select him after he showed form as a HF.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I'd like to see Hutch settled in the forwardline. Wanted him as a midfielder but that hasnt worked out. We did select him after he showed form as a HF.

Wasn't his comparison Liam Ryan when we picked him?

Seems like there's a spot there for him

 

[HoneyBadger35]

I'd like to see Hutch settled in the forwardline. Wanted him as a midfielder but that hasnt worked out. We did select him after he showed form as a HF.

I think that late season free swing against Geelong clouded judgement, plus the desperate need for a wing, plus the logjam of mid-to-tall forwards.

He had some games in the midfield where you can almost see the vision, cracks in bloody hard, but has a serous case of fumbles in tight and couldn’t consistently find it.

Agreed he’d be worth a trial up forward again as a big tanked HFF. A bit land of the giants but Waterman and he can cover a lot of turf, Reid and Shanahan move pretty smoothly, so it’s hopefully not as immobile as it might be.

 

[JackOutback]

We've been pretty ruthless in letting Barrass, Allen and Ryan go, cutting Petrucelle, plus Witherden, Rotham, Trew, Jones etc the year before. There's a definite issue that we have a lot of unknown kids that we don't want to cut just yet. On the flipside, we could be a little more ruthless and retire Cripps, delist Cole, but unless there's a clear cut better option, I'm not sure what the benefit would be.

 

[gravy_86]

My theory on Hutch is that he had some interest from a VIC club, then WCE panicked a little and gave him an extra 2 years to ensure he would stay, because they didn’t want the precedent of vic country players going back home

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

There are players who are not kids on the list who are not adding much. Owies, Cole, Cripps and Hutchinson to name 4 of them. They are not part of the clubs future and we all know it. I wouldn't cut them for the sake of cutting them just to add whoever is still available at Pick 100 in the draft.

But if there is a young player who has been cut by another club (like Ben Hobbs) who the coaching staff think is a 30% or better chance that they could add enough value to him to make him a best 22 player then it should be a no brainer to cut (and pay out if still in contract) players like those 4. I am not endorsing Hobbs. I am just saying, a club that has won only one game should have some ability to find a list spot if there is a young player available who might be worth investing in.

And i think given your form of getting everything wrong always when it comes to the clubs list maybe you should refrain from commenting on it. Lets not forget you were totally and utterly opposed to the cull you just mentioned. Everything was fine. It was all Covid's fault. And we were going to rebound straight back into the top 8. How did that work out? And you were the biggest Simpson barracker on here and thought he was the best coach ever ... until the day after the club sacked him and then you did a total 180 overnight and now it was totally justified to sack him. Admit it, you have no opinions of your own. You are an NPC who thinks everything the club does is 100% the right decision And if it changes it's mind and does something different tomorrow you completely forget your position from yesterday and start arguing for the opposite.

Never seen a poster so incapable of seeing a competing view without going on the immediate personal attack.

 

[Proeagle]

At least the first half of the season and preseason training, I would try and settle a lot of players into positions for the future.
Hutch - HF
Dewar - Wing and failing that, back to the forward line
A Reid - Ruck/ resting fwd
Gross - Midfield - Maybe start in beagles but just leave him in the middle.
McCarthy - Midfield. He can always go back to HB if that fails
Davis - on the other wing
Hough - Back Pocket manning up the small forwards

Just to name a few.
I think Baker is one of the few that can be used in multiple positions at this stage.

I really like our list but just think some of our players positions arent ideal.

And we need to be ruthless early on. Cole, Cripps, Duggan, Owies, Hall and Bo Allen starting in the beagles. Duggan perhaps bench but I wouldnt even use him there.


My starting line up would be

BP - Hough - H Edwards - Ginbey
HB - Starcevich - Young - Yeo
C - Davis - H Reid - Dewar
HF - Baker - Shanahan - Hutch
FF - Brockman - Waterman - A Reid/ruck

Mids - Hewett - McCarthy - Flynn

Bench - Graham, Maric, Champion, Kelly, Robertson


My main worry is the wingers and ruck obv. But I would like to settle Davis and Dewar on the wing for now.

This is obviously ignoring any new recruits we get from now until next year. Happy to add Duursma for Champion perhaps but we dont have him yet.

 

[Cuzz09]

Dick punch lol

Hobbs ey