List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Forward Press]

What happened to Will Phillips?

POSITION: Inside Midfielder

DRAFT ANALYSIS: "Phillips is arguably the best pure midfielder available in this year's pool; a clean, tough, and complete ball winner who remains ultra-consistent." - Michael Alvaro

Will Phillips Draft Profile

Will Phillips is the premier pure midfielder available in the 2020 crop. Find out all about the Oakleigh Chargers gun in his AFL Draft Profile.

central.rookieme.com

Must have got North Melbourned...

Much like what happened with Ben Hobbs and Tom Mitchell - no place in today's game as they are not quick, average at best by foot and liabilities in transition football. If you don't have any asset other than winning the contested ball, you have no place in the modern game.

 

[The_Reaper]

Fans think players should take unders and be loyal to the club no matter what because they are fans. Nothing Allen said is controversial and people shouldn't have any ill feeling towards him. It's a business and this is a rare case where it might work out for both in the long run. But I'm sure Allen is a touch disappointed and would have preferred to stay.

Yes it is entirely reasonable for Allen to look after his own interests.
It’s also reasonable for the club to expect performance for the contract he had and leadership for the Captaincy position he accepted.
He didn’t fulfill his side for either.

You can’t go all “well it’s business” and have a sook about how he wasn’t getting supported (by the same old people who led us to be the worst team in professional football history) without also accepting that he didn’t fulfill not give any reason to warrant said support.

Nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to accept the captaincy and the extra benefits and responsibilities that entails.

 

[PRANKSTER666]

The 2020 draft was god awful.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

What happened to Will Phillips?

POSITION: Inside Midfielder

DRAFT ANALYSIS: "Phillips is arguably the best pure midfielder available in this year's pool; a clean, tough, and complete ball winner who remains ultra-consistent." - Michael Alvaro

Will Phillips Draft Profile

Will Phillips is the premier pure midfielder available in the 2020 crop. Find out all about the Oakleigh Chargers gun in his AFL Draft Profile.

central.rookieme.com

Must have got North Melbourned...

No tank. No speed. He's fine at VFL level (great even) but at AFL level he can't run out a game at the level needed and is gassed by HT/3QTR time.

Maybe that matters less now without the sub.

Really he's been up against it.
2020 His draft year was the peak of Covid and missed all his U18 games.
He missed all of 2022 with Glandular fever. It probably can't be undersold the impact this had on him for a good 12months, then had to rebuild his fitness back to top level.

Really last year I think was the first full preseason he'd had and he made a big jump in quality (in my opinion) but not so much still in his overall fitness.

I would think he's well worth a punt and give him a couple years to build to the fitness required without the pressure. He needs a reset.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Phillips is worth a punt for free imo

The best of all the dfa names that have been thrown up so far anyway

 

[PepperTom32]

Max Nobel delisted by Gold Coast? Surely we can get on the phone?

And let’s also re-recruit Hugh Dixon to add to the innuendo recruits!

 

[Chris_6678]

Phillips is worth a punt for free imo

The best of all the dfa names that have been thrown up so far anyway

Way better option than Hobbs if we go that route.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Fans think players should take unders and be loyal to the club no matter what because they are fans. Nothing Allen said is controversial and people shouldn't have any ill feeling towards him. It's a business and this is a rare case where it might work out for both in the long run. But I'm sure Allen is a touch disappointed and would have preferred to stay.

Nah - he didn’t relinquish the captaincy when shopping himself nor did the club ask him to - yet the minute he goes his former club ‘didn’t have his back’? What because we didn’t want to overpay the guy? He didn’t need to have a swipe at loyalty on the way out. Good riddance

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Much like what happened with Ben Hobbs and Tom Mitchell - no place in today's game as they are not quick, average at best by foot and liabilities in transition football. If you don't have any asset other than winning the contested ball, you have no place in the modern game.

No. They already have players of similar ilk. If you don't have a player winning it at the coal face with the defensive craft the remainder of your stoppage game fails.

Wardlaw kept Phillips out
Dunkley kept Robertson
Long kept Mitchell
Atkins kept Stevens
Tsatis vs Hobbs

 

[rebel23]

Jack Petruccelle is available as a DFA, any chance?

Best of the DFA so far... Will improve our list with his experience and..... Pace

 

[kranky al]

Imagine when we win the flag though.

"Against the comp that didn't want them!"

Reminds me of that old ad


“They said you’d never make it”


And if we do this the next line will be

“and you didn’t”

 

[kaiserchief13]

Phillips is better than Hall, so if Hall can play why can't Phillips

 

[Farang83150]

Watching Gettable just now

Props to Riley Beveridge for calling out Hawthorn saying they had the most disappointing trade period after publicly chasing players but failing to secure a deal for any of them.

Good episode all round that, wish they'd make "What's your feelings on being drafted interstate" a standard question for all the Vic kids they have on the show.

 

[Hangover Noir]

Reminds me of that old ad


“They said you’d never make it”


And if we do this the next line will be

“and you didn’t”

Swan Premium ad when Brad Hardie was less of a dickhead.

 

[bzparkes]

Get Clohesy & Phillips. Nuff said.

Quite amazing how many young inside mids are being delisted this year though. Phillips, Hobbs, Dev, Schoenberg, Fin Macrae, George Stevens (promised a rookie spot though).

One thing I've noticed is none of these blokes are particularly quick or have many more facets to their game than pure inside mid. Two of these were taken inside the top 10, and some thereabouts too.

Remind anyone of Sharp?

1 thing that sets Sharp aside is that he's bigger than most of those blokes, whereas most of them had a case of the Masten's, where they were too small to make the step up.

It does indicate a trend of clubs moving away from those kinds of players though

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

1 thing that sets Sharp aside is that he's bigger than most of those blokes, whereas most of them had a case of the Masten's, where they were too small to make the step up.

It does indicate a trend of clubs moving away from those kinds of players though

Macrae is 188cm, Stevens is 189cm, Dev 185cm, Sharp is 188cm. I don't think size is the difference maker.

I was only really half serious, I don't mind Sharp. Just not with a top 2 pick. Hope we get him with our third.

I think my point was more just to put the idea to certain posters that Sharp isn't necessarily the slam dunk sure thing that many think he is. Look at Will Phillips draft profile and its just as impressive, shares many similarities. The game is, pun intended, in transition. We have picks 1 & 2, I say we use them on the highest upside talent. We won't be short of inside grunt if we use our extra rookie spots wisely, and Dev is a good start in addressing our midfield concerns for next year. We can't expect to take Sharp and play him straight in the guts from R1. What we need in the short term are seasoned AFL bodies. You know, the rock hard type.

 

[Smotie2]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-former-west-coast-eagles-captain-on-his-decision-to-join-brisbane-lions/news-story/6578e1551a395217f00769b7526bb34c

I'm sorry but **** this guy.

Agreed.

Oscar is at a point in his career HE should be giving back to the club after 7 years of faith in him and investment And he Should be leading and back others.
Instead he just looks out for himself.

He's still a ****ing child wanting the eagles to Molly coddle him and stroke his ego.

**** that campaigner

 

[garlic munchers]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-former-west-coast-eagles-captain-on-his-decision-to-join-brisbane-lions/news-story/6578e1551a395217f00769b7526bb34c

I'm sorry but **** this guy.

For a bang on average player, I would have thought his back (wallet and ego - they did have him as captain in 2025) was pretty well looked after by the people at the club.



Does seem to lack resilience and clearly not the player to lead us out of the wilderness.

I do not wish him well in 2026, but only because of his sooking.

Could only wish to be:

 

[Mop]

That's beside the point. Why say much of anything. Just mouth a few platitudes and move along with your sacks of cash.

This is a pretty reasonable take too

 

[Farang83150]

Swan Premium ad when Brad Hardie was less of a dickhead.

Was no such time.

 

[Farang83150]

Is CDT ready to play AFL next season or a project?

 

[Peptide Pig]

Macrae is 188cm, Stevens is 189cm, Dev 185cm, Sharp is 188cm. I don't think size is the difference maker.

I was only really half serious, I don't mind Sharp. Just not with a top 2 pick. Hope we get him with our third.

I remember Stevens because it might’ve been the last year that they were allowed to publish players weights and he was the heaviest in his draft class at 100kg, despite being a midfielder and under 190cm. Solid lad.

I too am hopeful that Sharp falls to our third pick. If we can jump up a few spots to Carlton’s pick at least then it’s possible. Would much rather somehow land Robey but he seems too popular now and will likely go soon after we take WD and CDT.

Much like what happened with Ben Hobbs and Tom Mitchell - no place in today's game as they are not quick, average at best by foot and liabilities in transition football. If you don't have any asset other than winning the contested ball, you have no place in the modern game.

Hence the question marks on Sharp as a pure inside mid with limited athleticism and no tricks.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Is CDT ready to play AFL next season or a project?

He'll play next year wherever he goes

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Would be keen to give Will Phillips a shot - I recall us sniffing around him earlier in the year.

High rated talent, a couple of bouts of glandular fever & taken by a club that only has top 10 mids on their list. There's surely something to work with our current midfield stocks.

I know the delistings scrap heap isn't a sexy way to add to our list.

But with 4x extra rookie spots + our need for players in that 23-28yo bracket who have AFL traits/are AFL ready, it's kinda a no brainer.

A couple of players of the robertson & Phillips ilk - coming from teams with heaps of (better) midfield depth & can't quite crack the squad, that perform at VFL level + 1 or 2 of the best state-league players & we've definitely become more competitive.

Worst case they raise the floor & make our WAFL team competitive (supporting the development of our kids)

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

I remember Stevens because it might’ve been the last year that they were allowed to publish players weights and he was the heaviest in his draft class at 100kg, despite being a midfielder and under 190cm. Solid lad.

I too am hopeful that Sharp falls to our third pick. If we can jump up a few spots to Carlton’s pick at least then it’s possible. Would much rather somehow land Robey but he seems too popular now and will likely go soon after we take WD and CDT.


Hence the question marks on Sharp as a pure inside mid with limited athleticism and no tricks.

Stevens was an absolute man-child, looked about 40 something in his draft year. Solid indeed. Late pick, I expect he gets a year on the rookie list and then delisted.

Sharp with our third would be glorious, because we've then addressed three list needs; outside run/transition, ruck (come at me campaigners), inside grunt. That would be a very successful and well rounded draft. Just be sure to get Evans and Banfield on top of that and its about as good an outcome as I could hope for.

I was pretty into Robey but my instincts are now telling me to pass. Couldn't tell you why exactly, just a feeling.